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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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409.0. "Hey Finch Folks Out There, Help, Pls.?" by CLOSET::COMPTON (Linda DTN381-0687 ZKO1-2/C21) Wed Sep 05 1990 16:53

    I put in earlier notes about a mixed aviary and a plumhead finches, but
    I'll try again in case any new noters are out there....
    
    Question 1: A book I have says orange weavers are not good in an aviary
                with gentlier finches, such as Australian grass finches
    		(owl finches, zebras, plumheads, etc.).  Opinions?
    		Experiences?  The book is 'Finches and Softbills' -
    		several inches thick with text and pictures, but it *is*
    		a TFH publication, so maybe the info isn't on target?
    
    Question 2: Same book as in above says male plumheads have a chin bib
    		that is the same color as the top of their heads (dark
    		cherry/maroon color), and that hens have no bib.  Both
    		my birds definitely have bibs, but one is acting like
    		a hen, the other like the male, and have gone to nest!
    		Help, Pls?
    
    							Thanks...
    							
    							Linda
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409.1I'm no expert - just some guessesMEIS::TILLSONSugar MagnoliaWed Sep 05 1990 17:3425
    
    All my finch books say the same thing about weavers in general, as do
    the articles I checked out in Bird Talk.  I haven't had any personal
    experiences with weavers, but I do remember that when I toured Al
    Decouteau's aviaries that he had his weavers and whydahs separated from
    his grass finches and mannikans.  He even had one problem whydah that
    was savaging the other whydahs.  He had moved it into a large flight
    that contained conures and other small hookbills, where it was holding
    its own!  I'd be inclined to believe that the orange weavers could
    damage a grass finch...but you might want to give Al or one of the
    other finch folks a call to confirm...
    
    I wouldn't be that surprised if your plumheads were both males -
    finches in general have such a strong mating drive that I don't think
    it would be really unusual for same-sex pairings to occur.  I've read
    that plumheads breed pretty regularly, so if they lay eggs, you'll know
    that one is a female :-)  If they just go to nest and don't lay, then
    they are probably males.  I'd guess that if you can acquire hens for
    them, they'll give you plenty of finches.  I'm not sure what kind of
    parents they make (another question for a finch expert) but if you get
    hens and you're unsure of the parenting abilities, you may want to pick
    up a pair of societies for fostering.
    
    						/Rita
    
409.2Thanks!CLOSET::COMPTONLinda DTN381-0687 ZKO1-2/C21Wed Sep 05 1990 17:444
    Thanks, Rita.  I really had my heart set on the weavers, but alas for
    now, I guess I should wait.  I'll try to corner Dr. D or the finch
    judge at the BOAF show and see what they have to say.  No luck so
    far on finding hens for the plumheads.  /Linda
409.3maybe you're ok?MEIS::TILLSONSugar MagnoliaWed Sep 05 1990 18:038
    
    But Linda, didn't you have to take your plumheads out of your aviary
    anyway?  Perhaps the weavers would be ok with your Bourke's and the
    canary, which are much bigger birds... and you could add other more
    aggressive/larger finches - Javas, for example...
    
    					/Rita