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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

192.0. "Cockatiel laying eggs..." by FGVAXL::BOLAND () Tue Jun 06 1989 17:01

    
    	This is my first time writing to the PET_BIRDS note file,
    so here it goes...
    
    	My husband and I are first time bird owners and this all
    came about when a cockatiel flew into our backyard looking
    for a home.  After a few weeks of looking for her owner we took
    her to the Vet to make sure she was healthy before investing in
    a cage.
    
    	The Vet said she was healthy but if she laid too many eggs
    this could hurt her (deplete calcium) and we should think about
    having a hysterectomy done or put her on hormone pills (the pill
    for birds).
    
    	Can anyone give me more information on what to do?  She has
    already laid 10 or 12 eggs and each time she gets a little more
    "bitchy" for lack of a better word.
    
    	She has been eating well and does like her cuddlebone.  We
    really have become attached to her and she seems to like my 
    husband alot.
    
    Thanks,
    Becoming a bird lover...
    
    Joanne
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192.1!! so many eggs !!MUNCSS::BURKEWed Jun 14 1989 11:4213
    1.	Do you have a nestbox (or something similar) in the cage ?  I believe
    	this would bring on egg-laying.
    
    2.	How 'friendly' is your husband with her ?  I have had our Grey
    	laying eggs after 'mating' with my hand (ie. after a few days). 
    	Needless to say, that was the first and last time I allowed it.
    
    3.	She uses (and needs) the cuttlebone to replenish the calcium.
    
    Hope this is some help.  Best of luck with your new wee friend.
    
    Jim Burke
    
192.2--<Bird mating with my husband????>--FGVAXL::BOLANDWed Jun 14 1989 16:4921
    
    Jim,
    
    	Since I don't know what a nestbox is I don't think we
    	have one, although we did remove the grate from the
    	bottom of the cage when we first got it.  She would
    	shred the paper at the bottom and then lay her egg.
    	
    	We now have the grate back on the bottom and she is
    	laying her eggs in her food dish.  Surprise! Surprise!
    
    	She lovesssss my husband and maybe she is 'mating' and
    	we just don't know it. 
    
    	Have you ever heard of hormone pills for a bird?  If
    	so are they helpful.
    
    	I was under the impression that they only laid eggs during
    	the spring time, like the rest of the birds.
    
    	Joanne Boland
192.3Partner substitute ???MUNCSS::BURKEFri Jun 16 1989 04:1535
    	I'm only guessing, but I reckon that the liaison with your hubbie
    is what has upset the bird's metabolism. Perhaps the sudden change of
    new home/environment/partners also has something to do with it. In any 
    case, you'll have to stop her. 
    
    	In principle, I'm against using any drugs/chemicals with a bird,
    unless there's absolutely no choice. If she continues to lay, then I
    suppose you must try this hormone additive (assuming the vet recommends
    it). 
    	All birds react to illness is a similar way: they try to mask it,
    as a natural defence against predators. The upshot of this is, that if
    the bird displays signs of illness, then it is *very* sick indeed - you
    have about two days to do something about it. A general maxim is: if
    the bird sleeps on one leg, then it is healthy. This one-leg sleeping
    is almost always the first behavioural change brought on by illness.
    
    	I'll explain the hand-mating ritual, so that you may recognise it	
    (our Grey is called Lucy; I'll assume that cockatiels do it in a 	
    similar fashion). Note that I (semi-unconsciously) allowed this once, 	
    but certainly no more - it's playing with nature. 
    	After a petting session, Lucy scuttles round in small circles around 
    	my hand, preferably held palm-down on the floor. Her wings are 
    	partially open; in a crouched position; makes little throaty sighs; 
    	lowers & rubs her bum on the back of my hand; the 'tickly bit' is 
    	signalled by a longer sigh and raising of the head. The whole process 
    	can last 20 mins.
    
    
    	I hope I'm not alarming you - you're doing a great job. Since the
    bird is laying eggs, then she must be basically healthy. I don't think
    you have a serious problem.
    
    Hope this is of some help,
    Jim Burke (Edinburgh, UK).
    
192.4confused...CARTUN::MISTOVICHdepraved soulFri Feb 26 1993 13:0715
    Catching up on old notes to gain new information.  The last reply has a
    contradictory statement in it that is confusing me.
    
    Jim said that "If a bird sleeps on one leg, then it is healthy.  This
    change in sleeping patterns is brought on by illness."
    
    Nothing in the previous notes mentioned a change in sleeping patterns. 
    My tiels both started sleeping on one leg -- shortly after the bout with
    sinus infection and immediately after I got my Senegal, who already
    liked to sleep on one leg.
    
    Is this a sign of health or a sign of illness?  I thought it just meant
    they were comfortable....
    
    Mary
192.51 is goodROYALT::PULSIFERUNHAMPERED BY FACTS AND INFORMATIONMon Mar 01 1993 08:182
    When a bird sleeps on two legs, it can be an indicator that it is not
    strong enough or have enough balance to sleep on one.
192.6thanks!CARTUN::MISTOVICHdepraved soulThu Mar 11 1993 10:086
    Thanks.  I found a passage in my cockatiel book that said that very
    young and old birds sleep on 2 legs.  It also said that in their prime 
    they sleep on 1 leg and that if they switch to sleeping on 2, it can
    indicate illness.
    
    Mary