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168.1 | | EUREKA::WHITE | the PARROT_TROOPER | Tue Apr 25 1989 14:09 | 15 |
| Cockatiels, by nature, are quite 'friendly' creatures that very much
enjoy the company of humanoids. Was there a time that you were
company to them? If so, then I think the problem with screaming
is that there lonely for company and attention.
Are they a 'pair'? How long have you had them? Where do you
live, cause if your going to five them away, I have 25 and a couple
more wont make a difference. Also, I cant understand how a cockatiel
scream could be more devestating than a macaw screech!
Dosent closing the door help?
just tryin to help,
cet
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168.2 | | WITNES::HANNULA | Well, you see, I have this cat....... | Tue Apr 25 1989 15:18 | 26 |
| I have 2 c'tiels and I went through a similar problem a while ago.
My problem was kinda caused by moving - I started living half at
home and half at my SO's - every other week I was moving H&G between
the 2 locations since I couldn't decide which place would make a
better home from them. This was also the same time when I started
to no longer be around H&G all the time. When I 1st got H&G I was
still in school and I was home a lot of the day. All of a sudden
H&G are being moved every other week and Mom isn't there for them
all the time.
First thing I learned - make sure there are enough toys to play
with. I probably spent $100 on bird toys - that way they had extra
things to keep themselves busy with while I was gone (read working).
In addition, I started to keep a radio playing softly for them.
Lastly, I positioned my telephone answering machine near H&G's cage,
with the volume on loud, and I would call home 3 or 4 times a day
and talk to the birdies.
They no longer shriek like they used to when it started - only when
their mad like this week when I tried feeding them okra for breakfast.
Good luck. And remember, if for some reason you do decide to find
a new home for them, you're better off to find them a new home than
to keep them in a home where you know you are not loving them as
much as you should. I went through this a while ago - I made the
decision to make the time for my birds.
-Nancy
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168.3 | Still Considering Goldfish | CISM::LANDINGHAM | Is it SUMMER yet??? | Wed Apr 26 1989 12:42 | 43 |
| Yes, since we've moved into the new house, I would agree that they
haven't been getting as much attetion as they used to. When we
lived in an apartment, my husband's main pastime was working on
his computer, in the same room as the birds. Now my husband's past-
time IS the HOUSE! [I'm sure you all know how that is!] But we've
always worked. We've always been very busy... I can't understand
this god awful behaviour.
When I think about it, they did have their spells like this back
at the apartment. I noticed it mostly on Saturdays when I was cleaning
house and too busy to spend time with them.
I guess I am guilty of not spending enough time with them. I live
in Grafton [Worcester County], and I'm going to devote as much effort
as I can to paying a little more attention to them. It's tough
when you're this busy. We also just got a new dog, and guess who's
getting heaps of attention?
I may offer them to someone who can share more love with them...
Let me first come to grips with my own feelings about them. As
of this morning, my feelings were too fond. The birds drove me
absolutely nuts... even when I was in the room, "TRYING" to talk
to them. They just screamed.
And yes, closing the door DOES help to some degree. But I do go
in there [we're still unpacking boxes, my computer is in there,
I iron in there, etc.]. I get it: Maybe I'm bugging them...
trespassing in their private room!
Thanks for the advice. I will try everything... because my husband
and I are both jokingly considering "giving them their freedom!"
If it sounds like I don't care for them, it's not true. I've had
the male, Larrybird, for several years [4? 5?], and the female
- Ladybird, [I THINK she's a female] joined our family 1-1/2
years ago, to keep him company.
Thank you for your help!
Regards,
Marcia
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168.4 | Another thought | WITNES::HANNULA | Well, you see, I have this cat....... | Wed Apr 26 1989 13:54 | 1 |
| Have you tried covering their cage when they get "like that"?
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168.5 | For what's worth.. | ANT::MPCMAIL | | Wed Apr 26 1989 14:55 | 12 |
| Just out of cursioty.. In your old place did they hear the wild
birds? Can they hear the wild birds in this house? I know that
in our household the cockteil and beebee parrot respond noisly to
the wild birds, more so in spring and summer than any other time
of year. Also are the birds in the sun more now? Are they exposed
to more light than before? I notice that many of these factors get
our two little birds going.
Like I said for what's worth. Hope you find a solution and a happy
one at that.
Lise
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168.6 | Muzzles / Valium & Other Alternatives | CISM::LANDINGHAM | Is it SUMMER yet??? | Wed Apr 26 1989 16:49 | 30 |
| Yes, I do cover their cages when they get like that. I try not
to on work mornings, because once I came home from work and discovered
that I forgot to uncover them before running out the door! Well,
I was so appalled... that was awful and I felt like the cruelest
thing in the world. But yes, I do cover them when they scream
incessantly.
They're quiet while covered. After uncovering them, they don't
take long, though, to start screaming. It does have a short term
effect on them.
Wild birds: Yes, in the apartment, and in the house, they're near
a window. In our new house, we're out of the city [thank god] and
wild birds abound. Oh boy, do they ever! So yes, they do try to
communicate with their buddies out doors.
The sunlight: They are now in a much brighter room than they ever
were. It gets fabulous sunshine all day. I moved them to that
room from another one which has a western exposure, dark wallpaper
and dark curtains. That was just too depressing... though I have
to admit, they were very, very quiet. In fact, I thought they were
sick! That's why I moved them. I won't move them back there, because
I would feel tremendously guilty.
Do you know of anybody who markets birdie muzzles? How about birdie
valium? *I* am going to need a valium if they keep this up.
Thanks, all!
marcia
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168.7 | try the dark room | ANT::MPCMAIL | | Wed Apr 26 1989 17:14 | 6 |
| I can suggest that maybe try putting the birds in the darker room
when they get too noisy. Maybe that will help quiet them and your
poor frazzled nerves, and broken ear drums.
Lise
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168.8 | Too loud? Turn down the light ! | MPGS::BURHANS | | Thu Apr 27 1989 08:16 | 5 |
| Why not use room darkening shades and adjust the "brightness"
until you get the proper mix of quiet and good cheer ?
Roger
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168.9 | Maybe they want play time | SMEGIT::BALLAM | | Thu Apr 27 1989 11:00 | 19 |
|
Hi, I'm the one who has basically decided that I don't really
want to keep birds, but for what it's worth... Do you take them
out of their cage every day? Or did you used to and now you
don't?
The reason I'm asking is, I take my two guys out every night,
and on weekends they get to come out in the morning. I think
(they may be fooling me), but I think they're in a routine and
even though they yell and whistle if I'm not in the room with
them, they don't get too obnoxious or loud about it. I wonder
if it's because they "know" in their little birdie pea brains
that they already had their play time so they have nothing to
complain about?
Just a thought.
Karen
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168.10 | Not that Easy | CISM::LANDINGHAM | Is it SUMMER yet??? | Thu Apr 27 1989 12:49 | 5 |
| This "IS" an alternative; however, we're talking about a large parrot
cage, which is also a little heavy. In other words, it's not very
portable!
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168.11 | Screeching | SHRFAC::BICKES | | Mon May 01 1989 01:07 | 11 |
| -< Scream & Screech >-
I had a Cockatoo that started to Screech, he was 5 years old
& talked alot, well I got my self a spray bottle & waited
for the sound off, Well by george he was surprised he
figured that was his shower time so he slowed down in
Screeming, but he would sit there & say Barney good
boy for hrs. I would wait 5 minutes go in there &
give him a corn cob, now he is down to once a day
about noontime & now he says want a beer. This
process took about 2 months. WIZzard
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168.12 | Showers are FUN! | CISM::LANDINGHAM | Is it SUMMER yet??? | Mon May 01 1989 17:45 | 14 |
| I've been known to give them a shower or too... especially when
they're screaming. But, I didn't want them to perceive the showers
as punishment... they enjoy them so much! It's more of a diversion
for them, I think. They may stop screeching after a shower for
a little while, but they certainly do start up again.
They were pretty good this weekend, but then, we didn't get "Tons
of Sun." That's the ticket, the sunlight. I still cannot bring
myself to darken the room, though. I, like most cats, LOVE the
sunlight, and I have lots of my plants in there.
What I have noticed, though, is that they do calm down a little
bit when they get my concentrated attention. If I'm just in the
room, not right at their cage, they'll still scream!
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168.13 | 2 Years Later... | MYGUY::LANDINGHAM | Mrs. Kip | Wed Apr 24 1991 13:10 | 43 |
| Wow, vujade. I am revisiting this conference, two years later... Just
reread through this past string. Guess what? Nothing's changed!
We still have the two 'tiels. They still scream. The "female" (I
think she is as he) is horrible. Larrybird will try to "talk," e.g.,
whistle with me, and she screams, screaches, squawks! She isn't at all
sociable, either. She just never warmed up. We got her a little over
3-1/2 years ago, as company for Larrybird, who has been with me for...
oh, 8 years, maybe.
Anyway, Larrybird will come over to me, pecks at my hair, whistles at
me, will eat from a dish or something I am holding [but not my hand],
etc. Ladybird flies to the edge of the cage and clings and screams.
Then there are the days that they both scream and screach in perfect
harmony, with nothing stopping them (short of covering them up good).
Those are the days my husband begs me to give them away.
I have come to the conclusion that I do feel attached to Larrybird and
am not ready to give him away. Ladybird - I just feel an obligation to
her as a responsible pet owner. But she is a pest. That may sound
cruel, but she won't warm up or quiet down. 2 years later, and I am
saying the same thing!
Some of you were kind enough to offer to take my Larry and Lady two
years ago. I'm still not ready to give them up... Some day in the
future, if we have a new bambino in the family (with a new kind of
screaming :-}), then I may consider finding a new home for them. I
cannot imagine how any human could sleep through their screams, and it
would be cruel to keep them covered all the time for the sake of a
napping infant.
Oh - one thing that does work to quiet them down... as you know,
they're kept in a huge parrot cage. I bought one of those perches that
you mount to the top... They LOVE it up there and do quiet down. I
don't let them out as often as I should, or as often as they would
like, because I have found that their "presents" that they leave all
day long on my hardwood floors, do not clean up well. They stain the
floor, in fact.
Rgds,
Marcia
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168.14 | Cleaning Up After | MYGUY::LANDINGHAM | Mrs. Kip | Wed Jun 05 1991 14:04 | 13 |
| I carried the birds outside the past two weekends and let them enjoy
the great outdoors! You should have heard them! They went wild (with
the sounds of the other birds!
Does anyone have any suggestion for cleaning the * off of hardwood
floors? I've tried Murphy's Oil Soap and warm water, but that doesn't
quite do the trick. Something that won't ruin the hardwood...? The
birds decorate the floor when I let them sit atop of their big perch on
the top of the cage. Of course, they fly around and I don't always see
their dropping 'til it's too late.
Thanks,
marcia
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168.15 | Get out Spot !! | ROYALT::PULSIFER | Doug @235-8128 | Thu Jun 06 1991 08:55 | 12 |
| HI MARCIA,
Hardwood floors usually have a almost impervious coat of Urethane on
them, which you can clean with most anything except ACID. Myself, I
have spray bottle with a bleach mixture that I squirt the spots with.
Also just a wet rag left on the spot for 1/2 hour will usually let you
wipe the spot right off.
Good luck,
Doug
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168.16 | Good Night Birdies! | MYGUY::LANDINGHAM | Mrs. Kip | Sun Jun 09 1991 20:37 | 18 |
| Well, this room has the original hardwood floor. I haven't done
anything with this room since we bought the house and I don't think
there's much urethane on the floor at this point. Anyway, thanks for
the suggestion. Will try leaving a hot, wet cloth on the spots.
Funny I should be here at this very note at this very moment... Just
browsing through my notebook this Sunday afternoon, and for about the
last 5-10 minutes Ladybird has been testing her vocal cords. Well, I'm
sorry to say that it all came to an end. They are now on their way to
birdie la-la land... covered up very nicely, thank you.
It's only 7:30 and I hate to cover them when it's still light, but they
make it *almost* impossible to be in the same room with them. We were
doing so well earlier whistling back and forth and then she heard the
birds outdoors! Ah well...
Rgds,
marcia
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168.17 | eh? | SWAM1::PEDERSON_PA | rash: quasi-mottle | Mon Jun 10 1991 18:00 | 11 |
| Is it possible to go deaf (or have nerve damage in the ear)
from a conure screech whilst the bird be perched upon
my shoulder? I've had problems with my left ear for
2 wks now (a doctor checked it out but found no blockage).
I forgot to mention to him that we own a conure, and my
hubby seems to think the once-in-a-while screech might
be the cause.
Thanks for any input...
pat
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168.18 | Yep. | CLOSET::COMPTON | Linda DTN381-0687 ZKO1-2/C21 | Sun Jun 16 1991 14:04 | 4 |
| I think it is definitely a possibility that it's the conure's screech
doing temporary damage....speaking from experience here.....
Linda
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168.19 | | WLDWST::GRIBBEN | When I Dream, I dream of you | Wed Jun 26 1991 03:23 | 8 |
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I agree.....my conure....Lets me know when he is mad. But does it when
i set him on my shoulder.
Robbin
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