[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

156.0. "CAN I TAME BUDGIES NOW??" by CSTEAM::KERNICH () Wed Apr 05 1989 16:51

    Hi!
    
    I am interested in the possibility of taming my two budgies. I have
    had them about 5-6 weeks now. Is it too late? The reason is
    that I think they would love to get out and fly around. I have
    been trying to get them to come to my finger, let me pet them, etc.
    but not yet. They are alot better with me than they used to be as
    far as their reaction when we come into the cage. I don't
    know what to do. I feel envy when I read of everyone's tame
    birds in this file. I'd love mine to be tame. They are still
    somewhat timid when we come into the cage. I still can't get them
    to come near my finger. Any ideas or thoughts? My female
    is about 4-5 months, my female about 3-4 Months.
    Thanks, Carol 
    
    
    
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
156.1advanced novice nowFSTTOO::WIMMERWed Apr 05 1989 20:1811
    Check out not #40.....I asked basically the same question, was just
    as frustrated and got a lot of great advice......which worked, by
    the way.  Now that I'm an "old hand" at this (I was only going to
    have 2 budgies, but a few months laters have 5 birds including a
    macaw).......patience and persistence is the key.  My budgies now
    come out at least once a day, fly around and will easily come to
    my fingers, shoulders, etc.  The only hard part is convincing them
    to go back into their cage.  Wait till you get to the point of bringing
    out the small birds, then the big birds in shifts.  Then their is
    the part about juggling the dogs inside and outside so the birds
    get their turn..........
156.2Taming BudgiesAKOV12::SELESKYThu Apr 06 1989 10:2242
    Hi,
    
    It's never really too late to tame a budgie.  As stated, patience
    and persistence are the key words here.  Keep putting your finger
    in the cage slowly (not much movement) and don't give up until your
    budgie has gone up on your finger.  Then just hold your finger steady
    for 5 or more minutes with the budgie on your finger.  This is so
    you don't scare him with too much movement and get him used to the
    idea of being on a finger (and he calms down).  Then gently move
    your finger to the opposite perch with him.  If he gets off, put
    your finger close to his belly just above his feet and push a bit
    to get him to step up on your finger again.  Work with him at least
    10 minutes each time, several times a day (as often as possible).
     When he gets more used to going on your finger immediately (could
    take several days or several weeks, depending on the bird), move
    him around on your finger up and down and horizontally in the cage.
     
    Words of advice.  It is much easier to tame a budgie if it has its
    own cage.  It will be much harder and take much longer if both your
    budgies are in the same cage.  Can you get a separate cage for training
    purposes?  Also, I don't let my budgies fly free until they go on
    my finger immediately in the cage, with no hesitation and no fear.
     Then, once I do let them out (and my 2 budgies are free to fly
    in the bird room all day long), I use the same persistence in getting
    them on my finger.  They may resist at first, once they have their
    freedom, but even if they fly away, keep go over to them and putting
    your finger at their feet.  They may fly away every time at first,
    but keep following them and eventually (may be 10+ times) they'll
    relent and go on your finger.  Do this every day they're out and
    eventually (not that long a time) they will go on your finger
    immediately outside the cage.  
    
    Call me if you have any questions.  I've had budgies all my life.
    My DTN is 244-6724.
    
    Sandy
    
    P.S. One of my past budgies took 7 months to tame -- he was older
    but the reason was mainly that I wasn't persistent enough and let
    him fly around without first making sure he was finger-trained well
    enough inside his cage.
    
156.3More ThoughtsAKOV12::SELESKYThu Apr 06 1989 10:3742
    Carol,
    
    Just reread your note again.  Your budgies won't come to your finger.
     You have to go to them.  You need to place your finger against
    their lower chest (just above their feet) and press against their
    body so they have no other choice than to step up on your finger.
     They will not go to your finger if it's not against their body
    (unless they're finger trained already).  Some people start with
    a stick (like a perch) held against their lower chest above their
    feet but I prefer starting right off with the finger.  Like I said,
    they may resist at first and be afraid (especially since they're
    a bit older) but have patience, keep trying and don't remove your
    finger until they've at least stepped onto it once or twice (even
    if they get off immediately the first couple of days).  Talk very
    gently to your budgies as your trying this.  As they calm down,
    you may be able to gently stroke their feathers.  Eventually, once
    they're calmer and finger-trained, you should be able to kiss their
    back, belly, beak and perhaps pet them a bit.  Budgies don't really
    like being petted on the back or belly but with gentleness and
    patience, they will probably tolerate it eventually (mine all do;
    in fact my last budgie liked me to gently rub the feathers on his
    neck; all my budgies have let me kiss them easily; be careful though.
     Some may bite if they don't like it.    Mine don't bite; just give
    me soft kisses back).  Don't try to pet them unless they are very
    calm and tame.  That will just make finger training harder since
    it will scare them too much.  Wait until they are calmer and easily
    going on your finger.  
    
    Remember -- they will not go to your finger.  You need to bring
    your finger right up to their body!  You may want to start out with
    just putting your finger in the cage and holding it there in the
    middle of the cage for several minutes without trying to get them
    to go on it.  This way they'll first get used to seeing your finger
    in the cage and see that it's doing no harm.  Holding it steady
    and not moving it towards them at first may calm them down to getting
    used to a finger in their cage.  Take each day slowly -- one day
    at a time -- and you'll see progress.  If your birds are in separate
    cages, it really shouldn't take much more than 1-2 weeks to get
    them finger trained if you practice with them at least 3-4 times
    a day.
    
    Sandy
156.4So far she and I are having funMED::D_SMITHThu Nov 02 1989 10:0722
    
    I just got a young female that has excepted this right off the bat.
    I trimmed her wings so she was a little more managable, and just
    spent the first hour together asking her to climb aboard. A week
    later, she will try to climb on from a few inches away. She will go
    from finger to finger, from in the cage to finger, out of the cage,
    back in the cage and on her pirch. It's working great so far.
                                                                
    I am now trying to get her to fly from one hand to the other to
    enjoy the treat waiting in my palm. She will go 6" but that's about
    it. She is now being fed by hand only, but I put just enough in her
    cage that it will be gone by pm. I hope soon, she will realize my
    hand out and a verbal queue will mean come on ove from anywhere
    in the house. I suspect she will be this far in a week or two.
                        
    So far, she has really excepted her fredom out of the cage. I am
    hoping to come up with some really easy tricks to learn.
    
    Has anyone got any sugestions?
    
         Dave'
    
156.5read note 40 and 102GIAENG::PULSIFERDoug Pulsifer 235-3332, BPO1Thu Nov 02 1989 11:3419
    Hi Dave,
    
    welcome aboard !
    
    For tips on training I reccomend Steve MArtins Video and reading
    notes 40 and 102.  I think you have taken the right approach in
    clipping the wings altough some people would disagree.  I could
    loan you a copy of the Video if you are local. I work in Marlboro
    and live in Lunenburg.
    
    Doug
	dtn 235-3332
        
                                        
                        *<    <*      @>     
                      ^^0^^  ^^�^^  ^^0^^  
                        ^      ^      ^        
                                        
156.6Yes...a videoMED::D_SMITHThu Nov 02 1989 12:0221
    Thanx for the welcome Doug...I may take you up on your video offer.
    I work and live in Marl. Yes, some would not be pleased about the
    clipping, but it is one way of getting their undivided attention
    without them always thinking of flying away...the same reason a
    larger bird would be clipped. She can still fly up-words, gets 
    tired and comes slowly down-word. She now realizes that it's easier
    to just stay put rather than exhausting one's self, only to be 
    retrieved again. She will be allowed full flight after moulting, 
    but by then I am hoping to get her over any fear that may remain.
    
    Most of what I will try to apply came from working with homing pigeons,
    dogs, cats and horses. Gentling (build confidence), patients (the
    hardest) incouragement (the need to try) and reward (treat for 
    attempting). Then it's just repeat, repeat and repeat untill down
    pat.
    
    Anyways...I would like to see the video, I'm sure it contains many
    greate ideas and tactics. How can we work this?
    
    Thanx again Doug, Dave'