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| 103.1 |  | ZONULE::HANNULA | Round Up the Usual Suspects | Thu Jan 26 1989 15:58 | 55 | 
|  |     Also in the latest issue of Bird Talk is a listing of dangerous
    chemicals/fumes.  Just looking at the list made me realize that
    there are afew things that I haven't been careful enough - I keep
    my birds in my bedroom and never thought about my harispray.
    
    Here's the list:
    
    Spray \Starch
    Carbon Monoxide
    Hari Spray
    Chlorine
    Formaldehyde
    Asbestos
    Surgical Acrylics
    Diazanon
    Cigarette Smoke
    Pesticides
    Herbicides
    Rodenticides
    Drain Cleaner
    Floor Polish
    Gasoline
    Kerosene
    Overheated nonstick cookware fumes
    oven cleaner
    Houe Paint
    paint remover
    paint thinner
    shoe polish
    wax 
    Nail Polish
    Bleach
    Spot Remover
    Nail Polish Remover
    Deoderants
    Hair Dye
    Indelible Felt-tip makers
    Matchers
    Mothballs
    Toilet Bowl Cleaners
    Perfume
    Shellac
    Suntan Lotion
    Lye
    Permanent Wave Solution
    Wood Preservatives
    Chlordane
    Nitrogen Dioxide
    Flea Colalrs
    Flea Bombs
    
    Actually, now that I type this list in, and really read what's on
    it, it makes me wonder how my birds have lived this long.
    
    	-Nancy
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| 103.2 | cough, cough! | MANILA::WALZ |  | Thu Jan 26 1989 16:19 | 16 | 
|  |     I wrote the article you discuss for BIRD TALK.  My first submission
    was about one-third the size of the one actually printed.  I didn't
    want to scare people to death.  The editor, Karyn New, rejected my
    first draft, wanting me to talk about ALL products which could be
    harmful if your birds are exposed to their fumes.
    
    After doing a lot of research, I became a little paranoid.  The point
    I was trying to make in the rewritten article is to remember that
    your birds are trapped in their little cages and can't escape.  If
    they are in the path of fumes or smoke, there is little that they
    can do to remove themselves from the situation.  It's up to you
    to be careful.
    
    Thanks for reading the article.
    
    Pat Walz
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| 103.3 | paranoid parents :-) | SBLANC::MOEHLENPAH |  | Thu Jan 26 1989 16:24 | 10 | 
|  |     Pat, I think we've talked about the Paranoid Parent bit, haven't we?
    
    Anyways, I now do my best to make sure everything is safe, but I am not
    nearly as paranoid as I was at first.  I guess I would like to believe
    now that a healthy bird will stay healthy, given the proper diet and
    environment.  Let's face it, the bird will probably encounter at least
    *one* item on that list fairly frequently.
    
    Ed
    
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| 103.4 | Bubba Breathes Kitchen Air | MANILA::WALZ |  | Thu Jan 26 1989 19:30 | 11 | 
|  |     I agree, Ed, and I am glad to hear that you are not the frazzeled 
    father you used to be.  Parrots are pretty hardy creatures after
    all.  It just takes us a while to figure that out.
    
    I try to keep my birds away from the hazards mentioned in the 
    article, but I have to admit, Bubba's (my grey) cage is in my
    kitchen.
    
    Nice to hear from you again, Ed.
    
    Pat Walz
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| 103.5 |  | WITNES::HANNULA | Round Up the Usual Suspects | Fri Jan 27 1989 08:12 | 1 | 
|  |     So Pat,  are any of the pictures in the article of you or your birds?
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| 103.6 | foreign friends | CHEFS::DEAL |  | Fri Jan 27 1989 08:25 | 22 | 
|  |     
    The person who owns the house I rent used to be president of the
    British Wild Waterfowl Association; our neighborhood is practically
    a bird sanctuary!  My petbirds are in 'danger' from the wild birds
    because unless we are very careful, we have visitors.  We've had
    to chase all manner of ducks, ornamental fowl, and countless robins
    out of the house.  No such things as screens over here.
    
    This is not a complaint.... we've watched swans nesting, kingfishers
    flashing and a green woodpecker make holes in the garden.  We listen
    to owls at night and watch herons fishing.
    
    When we move cages outside for sunshine, lots of little strangers
    gather round to pick up seed and to sing!  I think the canary likes
    it because he really reacts as does the serin.  To prevent foreign
    droppings into the cages, I keep old netting to toss over the top.
     If there was a way to create 'homing' pets, I'd love to let them
    fly about!!
    
    Bye for now,
    
    Eileen
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| 103.7 | Cover Bird | MANILA::WALZ |  | Fri Jan 27 1989 13:54 | 9 | 
|  |     None of the photos are of me in any of the three arricles I
    wrote for Bird Talk in March.  The picture of the macaw by
    by column "Living with Birds" is my photo.  The macaw is my
    own baby KoKo, whose little head is swollen over being such
    a celebrity.
    
    Thanks for asking.  
    
    Pat Walz
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| 103.8 | kitchen bird II | SBLANC::MOEHLENPAH |  | Fri Jan 27 1989 16:11 | 11 | 
|  |     Precious is in the kitchen too.  This is the only place in the house we
    have room for her flight cage she's in.  So, I cover 3 sides when it's
    cool and make sure the fan is on if we have something cooking.
    
    Ed
    
    There is an implicit goodness in all this, we have a backup system of
    notification when the microwave goes off (finishes its duty), she lets
    loose with the most awful screeching.  :-)
    
    
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| 103.9 | Exotics in our BACK YARDS? | CSC32::K_WORKMAN | Hand picked by Juan Valdez | Sat Jan 28 1989 12:27 | 10 | 
|  |     I can't believe how common it seems to be getting that people are
    finding exotic birds in their back yards.  Weve got a few people
    in this notes files who found their birds that way (lucky birds!)
    and there are some members of our Cage Bird Association who also
    found their birds this way, AND IN CO too!.  How does this happen?
    Do the owners just decide they don't want their birds anymore and
    open the door and let them fly out, or are the birds unclipped and
    escaping on their own.  Of anything, I find this to be one of the
    biggest dangers!  Loosing your pride and joy, your best friend and
    not to mention a few dollars!  Very Scarry thought for me!
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| 103.10 |  | NEXUS::M_ROBSON | News item from the Banzia Institute | Mon Jan 30 1989 11:15 | 7 | 
|  |     Karen,
    
    As you may already know, a friend of mine, Bryan, found a mitred 
    conure in a back yard and now he is trying to breed it.  He is 
    highly envolved (as I understand it) in the C.B.A. here in Colo.
                          
    Mark
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| 103.11 |  | ALCTRZ::BROOKS_DO |  | Mon Jan 30 1989 15:39 | 11 | 
|  |     My birds used to be kitchen birds. They kept getting sick, it has
    taken me 1 full year to figure out there are not unhealthy but 
    their enviornment was. I have a gas stove and a gas water heater
    in the kitchen. I also used the stove to keep the kitchen warm
    when the birds were sick, after many Dr. apts. and lots of
    sleepless nights the light finally came on.
    
    My birds live in the front room and there is always a kitchen window
    open.(I live in Califorina)
    
    Donna
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| 103.12 | I live in CA too | SBLANC::MOEHLENPAH |  | Wed Feb 01 1989 20:18 | 8 | 
|  |     I live in CA too, but we have an AEK.  This is better for the bird, me
    thinks.  We are also real careful about what we cook.  We aren't above
    rolling the cage into the living room if we think there might be a
    future problem.
    
    She seems to do fine.  
    
    Ed
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| 103.13 | toys in the attic | KYOA::WOODS |  | Mon Jul 17 1989 16:14 | 10 | 
|  |     I do not by any more hanging toys that consist of a chain and LOOSLY
    sliding pieces of wood or plastic. One day I looked over at Billy
    (timor Cockatoo) and it seemed he had a problem with his foot. When I
    went over to his cage I noticed that one of his toes had gotten wedged
    deep inside between the chain and the sliding wood. Lucky I was at home
    to help him out, if not he could have broken his leg at the very least.
    so be carefull of the toys that are out on the market today.
    
    
    -Stan
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