Conference 7.286::pet_birds

    As one of the moderators, and the 'owner' of the host system for
    the conference, I will get this started.
    
    Name:			Eric Brierley
    Nodename + Username:	UPNRTH::BRIERLEY
    Work locations:		MKO1 - Merrimack NH
    				TTB  - Ten Tara Blvd, Nashua NH
    
    I am primarily a bird watcher and do not now have any pet birds.
    As a moderator and host of the old combined BIRDS conference, I
    will continue to moderate the two new conferences. My moderation
    in this conference will be casual.
    
    As I have done with this entry, please use your name as the title
    of your reply.
    
    Enjoy,
    
    Eric

    Name:                       Bonnie Reinke
    Nodename:                   WMOIS::B_Reinke
    Work location:              Westminster
    
    I am the other moderator of the two birds conferences. I inherited
    the original Birds conference from Jym Dyer who founded it when
    he left Dec and kept it going until Eric could take it over.
    
    We have parakeets and I have raised canaries in the past. I also
    enjoy watching and feeding wild birds.
    
    

    Hi,
    
    Name:    		Cheryl McGinty
    Nodename:		NYJMIS::CHERYL
    Location:		PCO (Princeton, NJ)
    DTN:		321-5101
    
    I have zebra finches (right now only 7, but it was as high as 13).
    The other 6 have found new homes with some of my friends in the
    past week.  I started out with just a few and they keep making 
    those babies!
    
    
    

    Name:		Ed Moehlenpah
    Nodename:		WINERY::MOEHLENPAH
    Location:		WRO (Santa Clara, CA)
    DTN:		521-3030
    
    I have owned a variety of pet birds, but I only own one now, a 
    hand fed Hahn's Mini-macaw who is starting to talk pretty good,
    and more importantly, consistently!

    
    
    Name: 		Mark LaJeunesse
    Nodename: 		AKOV13::LAJEUNESSE
    Location: 		AKO (Acton, MA)
    DTN:		244-6672
    
    I own a Congo African Grey and have had in the past a number of
    different types of pet birds.  I also have feeders and enjoy backyard
    bird watching.
    
    I'd like to thank Eric and Bonnie for moderating this notes file.
    I had no idea how much work it was to start one of these babies
    up!
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mark
    
    

    Name:		Jean Hutchins
    Nodename:		ZEKE::HUTCHINS
    Location:		Spit Brook Road, So. Nashua
    DTN:		381-0205
    
    Hello! and Tweet!  I own an aviary, aptly called Feathered Obsessions
    Aviary!  I breed a variety of Australian finches and grass parrakeets.
     Yes, that's parrakeet with 2 r's not to be confused with budgies!
     I am veterinarian technician on leave temporarily and a strong
    mmember of the New Hampshire Avicultural Society and I lean heavily
    towards education and preservation!
    
    Nice to meet ya all!
    
    j

    name:                 Charla Kroll
    Nodename:             SVCRUS::kroll
    Location:             Parker street, maynard ma
    DTN:                  223-7540
    
    Hello I am into Burke parrets.  building cages, and starting over
    again to build up my flock.  I enjoy the outside birds as much as
    my inside ones.  Work nights so it is hard see much of the morning
    birds.

    
    
    Name:                 Karen Workman
    Nodename:             COORS::K_WORKMAN
    Location:             Colorado Springs, CO
    DTN:                  522-4990
    
    Hi... I have a 6 month old African Grey, 18 Canaries, 2 White
    Headed Nun Finches, 2 Fire Finches and 2 Diamond Doves.  I
    especially enjoy my Parrot and am considering getting another.

    
    
    Name:                 Dick Kirschbaum
    Nodename:             DUNCE::KIRSCHBAUM
    Location:             The Mill, Maynard   
    DTN:                  223-6119
                                  
    Blue and Gold Macaw...I really don't intend to own any other birds,
    one is enough....

    
    Name:		Rita Tillson
    Nodename:		TIMNEH::TILLSON
    Location:		Tewksbury (TWO)
    DTN:		247-2406
    
    I am owned by a lovely 6year old Timneh African Grey named Babylon,
    a clownish 2 year old Spectacled Amazon named SweetPea, and a skittish
    little 2 year old Peach Front Conure named Ishtar.  They have
    graciously agreed to share their living space with me, my husband
    Tom, the three cats, the tropical&marine fish, the lizards, the
    tortoise, and the geriatric boa constrictor.  
    
    

    Name:		Roger Burhans
    Nodename:		MPGS::BURHANS
    Location:		Nikerson Rd, Marlboro, MA (NKS)
    DTN:		291-9808
    
    Hi.  I currently share space with Murdock, a Yellow Nape Amazon
    and 2 Cockatiels, Chirper & Snowball, who are attempting to
    produce a family.  So far Snowball's laid a set of 3 eggs in the
    cage bottom, ignoring a LOVELY nest box, but they were not
    fertile.  I'm hoping they have learned something, they sure
    did a lot wrong for their first set !! 
    We also have in the house a canary, Yellow Bird, 2 Toy poodles,
    three kids, three adults, and for a while a frog!

    
    
    Name:  	Theresa Carlson
    Nodename:   same as above
    Location:   ATO - Atlanta GA
    DTN:        351-3346
    
    Hello.  I have a female parakeet, and a male budgie/keet mix.  While
    I enjoy watching their antics, the birds outdoors hold my interest
    also.
    

Name:	Christopher Yetman
Node:	BOSACT::Yetman
LOC:	ACT (Boston Applications Center for Technology) located in Andover MA.
DTN:	258-8387  outside # 508-975-8387


	I started out about 4 years ago when I was admiring some birds in
a pet store and a lilac crowned Amazon climbed on my shoulder, dragged me over
to the counter, and demanded I buy him on the spot! (Isn't that the way most
people get their first bird? :-) ).  Anyway we named him Jake and he now has
two more buddies Roxie a Goffin Cockatoo and Mookey a Timneh Gray.  It's 
starting to sound like a jungle in the morning but I love it!  When I get more
room I would like to add a Scarlet Macaw or a Mulacan(sp?) cockatoo.

	Looking forward to following (and hopefully contributing to) this 
conference.

Regards,
	Chris.

    Name: Bluejay Adametz
    Node: Raven1::Bluejay
    Loc:  GSO - Greenville, SC
    DTN:  354-7425
    
    Interest: I *am* a bird.
    

    
    Name:  Laura Romanik
    Node:  GLDOA::LROMANIK
    LOC:   ADC (Area Data Center, Novi, Michigan)
    DTN:   471-2068, outside 313-347-2068
    
    I became a pet bird owner quite by accident when I came home one
    day to find a Congo African Grey on our balcony.  We never found
    his owner so we kept him.  Prior to that I didn't know a thing about
    caring for a bird.  But necessity is a great teacher.  I'm completely
    fascinated with Max, and that fascination has carried over to other
    pet birds, as well as wild ones.

    Name:	Dom Cassone
    Node:	BOHR::CASSONE
    LOC:	UPO1-3 (Marlboro MA) soon to change to MRO4-3/C17
    DTN:	296-4797 soon to change to 297-3038
    
    I own a 1.5 year old hand fed Scarlet Macaw named Zackery, which
    we got before he was weaned.  My son owns a Cockatiel named Mimi.
    I have always wanted a pet bird and in the year or so that we have
    had Zack, I know that fulfilling the desire was the correct thing
    to do.  Zack and I have tons of fun.

    
    Name:	Wivine De Strijcker
    Node:	ADG::STRIJCKER
    Loc:	UCG Reading, England
    DTN:	781-4328
    
    We, that is my boyfriend and I own in total 7 macaws.
    We bought 2 scarlets, Unix and C, because we wanted a pet which
    was rather unusual. We thought it would not be fair on the bird
    to leave it on its own all day, while us being at work, so we bought
    two.
    
    And this is how it all started. When we had Unix and C sexed, they
    turned out to be both male. In the meantime we both a blue and gold
    called moonfleet, who we new was female. 
    
    Next step was finding a mate for moonfleet, which we did. We found
    Dundee in Muenchen and Moonfleet is certainly very in love with
    him.
    
    Having two male scarlets was not a good idea. So we bought two more
    young scarlets. We were very surprised and happy when they turned
    out to be both female when we had them sexed. They are called Magnus
    and Axel, unfortunately they got their names before being sexed.
    
    Now all this left us really without a real pet. The obvious solution
    was to buy another one, which we did. Oliver is a green wing macaw
    and does speak a few words. This is the only bird we don't know
    the sex of, but we guess it is female.
    
    We do enjoy our little zoo. 
    
    Wivine.

            Name:  Jim Buccieri
       Node Name:  SVCRUS::BUCCIERI
   Work Location:  PK01 - Maynard Ma.
    
    Hi,  I am the proud owner of Stevie a grey Cockatiel.  He's about
    two years old and Flash an orange winged amazon parrot.  He's about
    seven years old.  I aquired my feathered friends just this year.
    They are both second hand birds.  My passion is a Blue Gold McCaw.
    I hope to have one someday.                              
    

    	Name:  Vern Towle
    	Node:  SALEM::VTOWLE
    	Work:  NIO - SALEM, N.H.
    
    I have a Moluccan Cockatoo...Max...which is 2-1/2yrs. and quite
    a comedian, and really noisy, and a Sun Conure...Squiggy...1yr.
    and is also a stand-up comic and good whistler! (does a great wolf-
    whistle) Ha Ha! The wife has two female Owl Finches and three Zebras,
    plus one grey and one white cockateil.
    

    Name:	Patricia Walz  (Pat)
    Nodename:	USHS05::Walz
    Location:	HWL
    DTN:	441-2704
    Outside:	(713) 953-2704
    
    I am a Field Service Unit Manager is beautiful Houston, Texas. 
    I have been an owner, breeder and lover of parrots since I was
    a child.
    
    Presently, I have three pets at home:  KoKo--a blue and gold 
    macaw, Rico--a yellow nape Amazon, and Bubba--a Congo African
    grey.  I also own many breeder birds (mostly conures, Amazons,
    and Macaws).
    
    I have a monthly column in Bird Talk Magazine and also write other
    articles and do photography for them.  Many of you have written
    me with comments and suggestions.  THANKS!!!!!!
    
    I appreciate the hard work of our moderators in putting Pet_birds
    together for us.
    

    I guess it's my turn.
    
    I'm Mark Robson a S/W Spec in the Colorado Springs support center.
    
    My collection consists of Mithrandir my Congo African Grey, I have
    had him for 5 years now...He talks up a storm!  Yells at the others
    when they are to noisy, whistles and makes strange video game sounds.
    My second is a Mollucan Cockatoo, Thorin,  when I got him he was VERY VERY
    wild.  He still has a tough act, but it's a bluff.  He is not as
    lovable as I want him to be but I have not given up yet (I have
    had him for 2 years now).  Lastly is Bilbo, my Sun Conure,  he is
    a year old this month, hand fed and VERY spoiled.  Noisy but lots
    of fun to play with.
    

    Name: Robert Chesler
    Location: ZKO3 - Nashua, NH
    Mail: flume::rob
    
    I live with Sugar, a second hand blue front Amazon that speaks a
    whole one word and loves to have flying/running races in the long
    hallway of my apartment building, and sometimes comes when I call
    her.  Although her speech is limited, her music theory almost has
    her whistling a perfect arpegio, but her instincts would have her
    prefer to chew the wood of my violin I'm afraid.
    
    This summer I bought a long leg chain and took Sugar for a few walks,
    although sometimes it was more like flying a kite!  I don't trust
    her enough to go for a motorcycle ride yet, but the American iron
    didn't frighten her even when I was starting it, so hopefully next
    summer we'll try a short one.

    
    Hello,
    
    Name:       Karl Jacobson
    Nodename:   engine::jacobson
    Location:   MLO, Maynard MA
    DTN:        223-4057
    
    My wife and I live with many different types of birds.  A baby yellow nape,
    3 cockatiels, two budgies, many finches and waxbills, and one
    button quail.  The finches and waxbills include a shaftail, blue
    capped, orange cheeked, and zebras.  Soon a pair of goulds and 
    a pair of societies.
    
    We enjoy their noisy company in our living room.
              

    HELLO,
    
    Name:	Louisa Pierce
    Nodename:   3D::pierce
    Location:	LMO4, Marlboro,MA
    
    I'm so gald they split up this conference!  I only have 1 Yello
    Nape Amazon his name is REGGIE and he talks up a storm also. He
    also answere the door when people knock (weather you want them to
    come in or not) and he MEWOS like the cat and crys like a baby..he
    is very entertaining we love him,,I want to get a Mcaw somtime to
    
    Thanks
    LOU

    Name:	Colleen Labbee
    Node:	SRFSUP::LABBEE
    Location:	LAO - Los Angeles Office
    Phone	213/338-5225
    
    I have a gray cockatiel named Dudley.  I have had him for 9 years.
    He is tame and he talks and whistles.  He's very affectionate and
    good company, too!

    name:		Steve Ruzich
    node:		Vaxrt::Ruzich
    work:		The Mill, in Maynard
    dtn:		223-6112

    I have parrots, cockatiels, a couple of quail, a myna, a bundle of
    budgies, and maybe 80 finches?  They're housed on three floors of our
    home, and the basement refrigerator is filled with seed bags, sprouts,
    and veggies. The finches breed well, the parrots are thinking about it,
    and the budgies would probably like the option, if I ever get time to
    finish making enough nesting boxes. 

    Our favorite is Merlin, the Timneh.  He presides over the the kitchen
    from his roost in a 7-foot lilac branch, commenting on all he sees:
    "Who cares? ... Wanna be cat food? ... Nevermore!" 

    We also take in birds, from people who don't have time for the birds,
    or who have tired of the screeching.  (I wear headphones around Fred,
    the Nanday.) 

    This all started, you see, because my wife, Cindy, gave me a wild bird
    identification book for my birthday.  She developed into a wildlife
    artist and pet bird fancier, and I guess my main role in this
    enterprise is as carpenter. 

    -< Eileen Deal >-
    
    NAME:               Eileen Deal
    NODE:	        Chefs::Deal
    WORK:               RDL - Queen's House, Reading
    DTN:                899-5320
    
    I was given a pair of Green Singing Finches a couple years ago and
    now have four singers (they bred!), Gloster canaries, Tiger finches,
    Bengalese (society to the Americans), Zebras and Chinese Painted
    Quail.  They all live in an in-door aviary which is located in the
    lounge (living room).  I want to extend my range to parrot finches,
    bichinos (owl) and red avadavats.  My heart CRAVES gouldians and
    as soon as I live in a proper house (owned, not rented) I want to
    add hummingbirds.
    
    Thanks again, Eric and Bonnie, for splitting this!!!

    
    
    NAME: Diane Wimmer
    NODE: FSTVAX::WIMMER
    WORK: BUO -- Bedford, MA
    DTN:  249-1310
    
    I just took the leap -- bought a pair of budgies last weekend. 
    I've been reading about birds for a while now, trying to convince
    my housemate that it was a good idea.  I want to get a parrot
    eventually, but the budgies are the first step.  Other members of
    the household include a 10 year old Lhasa Apso, and a 4 year old,
    75 pound Airedale.  Both dogs are vacillating between cardiac arrest
    and major jealousy over the birds so far.  Everytime I talk to the
    birds, both dogs leap into my lap to make sure I still love them
    the best!

    
    Name:  Steve Fuller
    Node:  AKOV11::Fuller
    WORK:  AKO1
    
    Have had birds since I was a child (20 years ago).  Currenty have
    a 13 year old Yellow Nape (female) named SISU and a 5 year old
    Citron Cockatoo named Caspar.  Challenge in life...keep wife from
    strangling the birds as a result of chewing of woodwork, furniture,
    etc.
    
    Advise to newly interested parrot buyers:  Amazons get independent
    in their old age, Cockatoo's get dependent.

    NAME:  Jane Ashenden
    Node:  CHEFS::ASHENDENJ
    WORK:  Dec Park
    
    
    I have two Canaries a male and female.  The male is called Pepsie
    and the Female is called Shirley.  They are about 1 year and 3 months
    old
    
    
    Jane 

    NAME: John Williams
    NODE: TRUPUT::JWILLIAMS
    WORK: MRO1-1 Marlboro
    DTN:  297-6141
    
    
    We just lost a green budgie named Skeeter. He was a great little
    guy and although he didn't talk much used to play catch on the floor
    with us using plastic balls. He was very friendly and we will miss
    him.
    
    We've been thinking about getting another parakeet and are looking
    around. Anyways, for anyone looking for some basic advice about
    how to handle birds, patience, patience, and more patience. They
    can't really be trained as such but respond well to a kind voice
    and a playful attitude.
    
    						John.

    NAME: Ray Williams
    NODE: WILMER::WILLIAMS
    WORK: SHR1-4 Shrewsbury
    DTN:  237-3637
    
    My wife and I just bought two Masked Lovebirds last week-end.  We
    named them  Ralph and Alice (after the HoneymoonersTV).  We know
    NOTHING about birds but are ready to learn.  I'm into Tropical Fish
    and the fish stores always have a bird section so last week we said
    "Why Not?".
    
    RW

    Name: Donna Brooks
    Node: Alctrz::Brooks_do
    Work: OAW  Walnut Creek Calif.
    DTN : 541-3151
    
    I have a 9 month old cockatiel. His name is Spot. (or hers) He is
    pied so I do not know if he is a she or not.

    
    Name: Teresa Holcombe
    Node: Raven1::Teresa
    Work: GSO Greenville S.C.
    DTN:  354-7709
    
    
    I have two cockatiels. The male is named Harpo and the female is
    name Ziggy. Zig can say "pretty bird". Harpo likes to sit on his
    swing and sing. They are great I love these guys. They are so funny
    to watch when they are playing. Ziggy chases Harpo around the cage
    as he tries to eat.
    

    Hi, my name is Shelley and I live in Calgary, Alberta...Canada,
    eh!  I used to own a Blue and gold Macaw and one cocketiel.  I sold
    my macaw..the dummest thing I every did.  I am now in hot pursit
    of a African Grey parrot.  In Canada it is very hard and $$$$$$$
    to get a hand fed parrot...any leads out there.  I would consider
    importing across the borders. 
    
    I am also planning a trip to Belize in the Central American next
    February...does anybody know of what birds are  found down there
    and how I could get them back to Canada.
    
    Thanks...and someone please talk to me up here in the this barren
    wasteland called winter.
    

    Name:  Betty Mecler
    Node:  WJO::MECLER
    Work:  5 Carlisle Rd., Westford, MA
    DTN:   282-1516

    
    As a child I always had a budgie.  Now that my daughter is of a
    respectable age (8) I've purchased one for her.  We've had him 
    for 7 months now and just recently he (name's Flippy) just began
    to display tamer tendencies and has started to talk but only lots
    of gibberish so far.  We thoroughly enjoy his cage antics like hanging
    upside down from the top of his cage by one foot.
                          

    Name:	Malcolm Birch
    Node:	ODIXIE::BIRCH
    Location:	Jacksonville Florida
    Phone:	(on-site) 904-731-6456
    		home	  904-824-1297
    
    
    My wife and I run a bird business called The Avairy.  We have a
    variety of birds, however our main interest is in Macaws. 
    Currently we have ..
    	Blue and Gold Macaws
    	Green Wing Macaws
    	Cockatiels
    	Senigal parrots
    	Cherry head Conures
    	Rock pebblers
    	Cacariquies
   	
    I would like to have in the future some Ciques and a pair of Hyacath
    Macaws. 
           
    "Ditto" ..Thanks to the moderators for this notes file.
                             
    Malcolm

   NAME: BILLIE COX
   NODE: TOLKIN::BCOX
   LOCATION: HL02-1, HUDSON, MA.
   DTN: 225-4872
    
    Hi, I am the owner of a 3-4 year old Spectacled Amazon.
    I do not know what sex he is, I always refer to him as
    a male.  I have considered getting another parrot because
    they have such great personalities!! But I'm afraid he
    would be heartbroken if I did.  He is so attached to me
    and will not have anything to do with anyone else in 
    the house.
                         

    Name: Lisa Phaneuf
    Node: stowma::phaneuf
    location: OGO1B
    DTN: 276-9228
    
    hello, I am the owner of a 9 month old Red Lord Amazon. I think
    Marley is a he, very bossy and loves to do tricks. Say's baby
    bird, boogey bird and learning more all the time. Rolls over like
    a dog..any other red lord owners out there??? 

    
    Name:  Steve Albrecht
    Node:  guru::albrecht OR smurf::albrecht
    Loc:   ZKO3  Spit Brook Rd., Nashua N.H.
    DTN:   381-0508
    
    Hello Everyone
      My wife Maggie and I share our house with a Grey Cheek Parakeet
    named Mango and a geriatric German Shepard named Strider.  Strider
    is 15.5 years old and is not going to be around much longer (sniff).
    I think Mango is around 6 months or so.  I know he is young because
    he was very uncoordinated when we first got him in Sept.  He has
    improved a lot and in fact has turned into quite an acrobat. He
    loves to worry my wife and hang inverted for long periods of time.
    We both love animals of all kinds but only have room for these two
    right now.  I hope some day to buy a place with a lot of land so
    I can get a falcon, or two.  Also maybe a horse, a few more dogs...I
    know...stop dreaming Steve.  That is about it.  
      My thanks to the moderators for this notes file. 
    
    Steve, Maggie, Mango, & Strider
     

    HELLO,
    
    	I now have one 1.5 yr. old Greenwing Macaw which has quite a
    vocabulary.  I first got him when he (?) was 4 months old and
    hand fed.  I also have a 4 month old Military Macaw who was also
    a hand fed baby and was sexed as being a male.  They are quite 
    a pair!  Both have totally different personalities.  
    
    

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    Name                                Bob Martin
    Node                                Rutlnd::RMartin
    Work Location                       APO Andover
    
    I am a neophite bird enthusiast. We have a green singing finch for
    1 year. I am doing research on Amazon Parrotts and have an interest
    in Yellow Napes or maybe White Fronts. I have learned a lot from
    this notes file since I discovered it 2 days ago. My interest started
    a couple of weeks ago with an advertisement for a Lowell pet shop
    for tame and talking Yellow Napes for $600. My next thought was
    to watch for an unhappy owner (due to screeching) and find a real
    good deal. I like this file and plan to read it weekly. 

	Hi! My name is Valerie Coffin. My boyfriend, Chuck and I have recently
adopted a 5 year old, White-fronted Amazon from his sister. His name is Doc. 
Boy were we lucky!

	 I have never owned a bird before so I have alot to learn. I didn't
know what I was missing! Doc is a very affectionate and entertaining pet. We
love him!

    NAME::                      ANGELINA GUTIERREZ
    NODENAME + USERNAME         WLDWST::GUTIERREZ
    WORK LOCATION:              DEC.IN CUPERTINO,CALIFORNIA
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    I AM THE OWNER OF 3 LOVELEY PIED COCKATIELS WHO ARE ALL BILENGUAL
    BIRDS,THEY ONLY EAT MEXICAN FOOD THEY ARE A RIOT AND MAKE ME HAPPY
    WHEN THEY WHISTLE ROMATIC NOTES!

    New bird owners, recently acquired a young Yellow-Nape Amazon, about
    7 months old.  Hand-raised from a imported baby.  The birds name
    is Chico.  Since he has somewhat of a spanish flair.  First words
    were ARIIIBAAA (sp?)
    
    Both my wife and I are Digital employees.  Her in F.S., me in SWS.
    
    Name(s)		Dave and Jane Leonard
    Nodenames		UNXA::LEONARD and TOPTEN::LEONARD
    Locations		UNX and PCO  (Manalapan and Princeton NJ)
    
    Interested in all things bird related.  Training, diet, health,
    etc.  We (my wife) also feed the wild birds.  Something like 8 feeders
    or so these days.  Some circus outside the window.  
    
    We also have a cat.  He is just learning how to talk...  Think he
    wants to be a bird.

    Name: Heinz Kottmann
    Node: COLA1::Kottmann (All in 1)
    loc.: CEN Essen Germany
    DTN : 890-7839
    
    
    Hello, I am the owner of 6 year old Amazone. His name is Brutus.
    It is, in german a Venezuela Amazone,(lat. Amazona amazonica).
    he does not talk, but he can cry.
    I have also 5 parakeets (grey, blue and yellow)

    
    Name: P�ivi Korvenranta
    Node: HSK01::KORVENRANTA or EEMELI::KORVENRANTA
    Loc.: SWAS in Finland
    DTN : 879-5204
    
    Hello,
    
    I have been a silent reader for this note about one month now, 
    and like to introduce my 'hard-winner', an 6 years old yellow-headed
    Amazon called Roope. He is quite a personality. He whistles, laughs
    when someone in the room is laughing, says a few words (in Finnish,
    of course..) and is very energic fellow. I have been thinking to
    get another parrot to company for him, but here in Finland are not
    many big parrots for sale. Let's see how we (I and Roope) manage
    to find a suitable one, which we both like....
    
    I have enjoyed very much of this conference, and send best regards
    for all of you !

    HELLO;
    
    NAME:  STEVE DESILETS
    NODE:  NEMAIL::DESILETS
    LOC.:  WAO
    DTN.:  221-5626
    
    
    
    I HAVE A 10 WEEK OLD COCKATIEL THAT I RECENTLY PURCHASED FROM A
    DEC EMPLOYEE.  I AM A NOVICE WITH BIRDS AND AM EXCITED ABOUT 
    LEARNING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!
    
    THANKS TO EVERYONE !
    
    .

    Name:	Juliette Tai
    Node:	MPGS::TAI 
    		SHRVLS::TAI
    Loc:	SHR (Shrewsbury, MA)
    DTN: 	237-3291
    
    I just bought my first large parrot last week, a yellow nape, Piedy
    (short for Piedmont).  He is under 2, and at present very quiet...I'm
    sure this is not typical amazon behavior.  He also LOVES to have his
    head scratched more than anything else!  I am very anxious to see
    what Piedy will be like a few months from now!
    
    I have previously owned parakeets, canary-winged parakeet(beebee
    parrot?), still own 2 cocketiels.
    

    Name:	Jim Burke
    Node:	MUNCSS::BURKE
    Loc:	CSS Munich, W Germany
    
    	I am a contractor (4th for DEC) from Edinburgh in Scotland.
    We have two Congo Greys (Basil and Lucy), and two cockatiels (Ollie
    and Susie). The two Greys are 'as per specification'; that is; Basil
    (the male) actively dislikes me, whilst Lucy (the female) allows
    me to do anything with her. More or less vice versa for Patricia,
    my wife. 
    They have vastly different characters due to their roots (Basil is
    from the Congo, Lucy was hand-reared in Britain), and their diets are 
    totally different. They only look similar (Basil is *big*). 
    I am constantly amazed at Basil's intelligence. I have watched him
    examine a problem, think about it, then attempt a solution. Nobody
    will convince me that these birds have no innate intelligence.
    Perhaps in another note, I'll relate something of this. For example; 
    the day he escaped (free for 4 days without food !).                 
    
    Jim Burke

    
    
    Name: 	Zina Slade
    Node:	Dasxps::Slade
    Loc :	Das/ Andover, Mass
                    
    
    
    	My fiance and I own a Red Headed Conure ( Mavrick ).  A friend
    of  my sister in-laws found him in there back yard in a tree and
    they gave him to us.  We have had Mav for about a year and a half
    now and enjoy his company very much.  He says a few words but only
    when *he* feels like it...  During the fall my fiance walked out
    of the house not relizing he was on his shoulder and Mav went for
    a three day adventure.  On the third day we spotted him and he flu
    back to us, so now he is back home and seems very happy to be there.
    He has *quite* the personality.  He is about two to three years
    old and stands about 6" tall.  His coloring is *very* brilliant,
    almost like a deep emerald with a head that looks like its on fire...
                                                                  
    
      
    	

    Name:                  Don Chimera
    node name + user name: Dneast::Chimera
    Work Location:         ASO - Augusta, Maine
    Dtn                    271-7385
    
    
    I currently have two cockatiels and one nuthatch ( rescued from
    a badminton match between my two siamese cats...) . I am planning
    on getting a parrot in the future( when space allows) and enjoy
    watching and feeding the outdoor birds. I subscribe to BIRDTALK
    magazine and have picked up a lot of information from both it and
    this notesfile. AS a new noter I look forward to participating in
    this forum.
    

    HI, 
    
    MY NAME IS DENISE BOURGAULT AND I AM LOCATED IN PKO3
    (SPGOPS::BOURGAULT).  I CURRENTLY HAVE A VARIETY OF BIRDS, INCLUDING
    COCKATIELS, LOVEBIRDS, CANARIES, INDIAN RINGNECK, AND A YELLOW NAPE
    AMAZON BY THE NAME OF JOCKO.  I BELONG TO THE "BIRDS OF A FEATHER"
    AVICULTURAL SOCIETY OF HAMPTON N.H. .  I LOVE BIRDS AND AM PLEASED
    TO FIND A NOTES SECTION DEDICATED TO PET BIRDS.
    
    I AM INTERESTED IN ALL TYPES OF BIRDS AND WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM
    OTHER BIRD LOVERS.
    
    DENISE BOURGAULT,     DTN:  223-6802     VAXMAIL: SPGOPS::BOURGAULT
    
    

Hello All:

Name:  Robbin Gribben
Node:  Wldwst::Gribben
Loca:  UCF/Cupertino, CA
Phone: 408-973-1521 X7153

I share a house, that is actually more like a jungle, especially in the
morning, with 9 feathered beasts. That I love very dearly !! I have a my #1
man, Buddie a Nanday Conure, (affectionately, know as "Dude" by all my friends)
whom I acquired one late afternoon, when he landed on my head while I was eating
an apple out by the pool, haven't been able to shake that "Dude" since. He is
VERY spoiled, has his own pillow for those Sunday mornings when I want to sleep
past 06:30, UGH !!! and does many tricks, including "playing dead". Then there
is the o' great obnoxious one, Sugar, a Severe MaCaw, a very sinster lady, she
says Hello when the phone rings, curse's like a sailor when men walk into the 
room (previous owner) and will have you believe that she likes you till you turn
head and then tries to take your finger off, she can be very rude, and learned
to do all the disgusting bodily functions noises, like passing gas, and burping
which is always fun the first time someone new comes over !! Then there is
Mickey, Yellow Nape Amazon, who has a very large vocabulary, sings many nursery
rhymes, and has his own skateboard. Well there are also Trixie & Bandit a
mated pair of Cockatiels, and that is all they do (mate, all the time), there is
also Oliver, Welby & Budgie, my Parakeets, then the noisiest of all a Roller
Singing Canary, named Charleen, who should be renamed Charley, I have grown to
be able to sleep through everyone's noise, but his !!!

Well looking forward to conversing with you all !!!

RRG    **
       \/

    				[ ELLEN WYMAN ]
    NAME: ELLEN WYMAN
    NODE: DEMING::WYMAN
    LOC:: HLO1/HUDSON
    
    HELLO. I PRESENTLY HAVE TWO BIRDS. AN ORANGE-WINGED AMAZON PARROT
    NAMED CAPTAIN SAM, AND A COCKATIEL NAMED NIBBLES. THE AMAZON DOESN'T
    SAY MUCH OF ANYTHING, HE JUST SCREECHES ALL DAY.
                                               
    CLOSE
    
    
    EX
    

    
    Name: Steve Thompson
    Node: FDCV06::THOMPSON
    Loc : PK01
    
    Hello gang I have 2 beautiful Grey Cockatiels that can't be told
    apart from each other. One is 7yrs old and the other is 1.  Both
    male's.  Just pick up the second yesterday.  Don't know much about
    birds but I love them.  Can't get then to talk but the older one
    will whistle along with with you...
    
    Steve

    
    Name: Kris Staats
    Node: Boards::Staats
    loc:  CHM
    
    
    I've been reading all about every body here for about a month
    and I thought it's about time I turned into a notes writer as well
    as reader. Hope I don't mess this up somehow - this is my first
    time writing to notes.
    
    My family consists of two peach faced love birds (Max & Marli) a
    conure (Woody), a grey cockatiel (Flipper, who I got thru this file)
    and an orange weaver (Lady Finch).  They are all very vocal,
    unfortunatly they don't actualy say anything that could be considered
    talking yet (although Woody seems to be trying very hard latly to
    make new noises).
    
    RE.13.24     I spoke to Jean last night and will be going to a NHAS
    meeting with her tomorrow night.  I'll ask her when she may be back
    and tell her she's missed in this note.
    

    Name: Susan Barton
    NodeName: ODIXIE::MAILLOUX
    Location: ORO (Orlando, Florida)
    DTN: 353-6232
    
    My husband and I have been into pet birds for about 8 years.  We
    currently own a hand-fed baby Blue and Gold Macaw, a hand-fed
    baby Unbrella Cockatoo, and a hand-fed Double-Yellow Headed Amazon.
                  
    We really enjoy these hand-fed babies.  They ARE worth every extra
    dollar you pay for them.  We've had imports before and they can't
    compare.  Folks, don't waste your money if you have a choice.
  
    Thanks for such a great conference!
    
    Susan Barton
      

    Name:Carol Kernich
    Nodename + Username:CSTEAM::KERNICH
    Work Location: UPO1 - Marlboro
    
    My husband and I have recently become proud new parents of two
    parakeets - Sparky, (our female) and Sweetie (our male). I
    tremendously enjoy this notefile and am learing much from it -
    being the novice that I am. I am looking forward to getting to know
    everyone and their "family".
    
    

Hello all.  Well, I've leaped into the ranks of bird people,
and I am now a mommie for at least the next 20 years (oh
my gawd!!  {:-\  ) ...is that how long cockatiels live?  

big grins  ;-}

Oh yeah!  I'm Karen and I live in Milford, New Hampshire.
Jean, maybe you'd let me visit your aviary?  I purchased
a hand-fed baby cockatiel, a normal grey one, male.  He
is very sweet and unafraid.  It has taken me a week to
realize that noises I make don't startle him (I haven't tried
the vacuum around him yet).  I can skrinkle a bag of nacho
chips or rustle the newspaper and he could care less.  He
likes it when I read, especially magazines with color photos.
He seems attracted to color and to all those little black
letters on the pages  :-) .   And it took me a whole week
to realize that I don't have to mince around when he's on
my shoulder.  He likes it when I just walk around normally,
and sometimes he really gets into it, digs his needle claws
into my shoulder and flaps his wings like crazy.  

In fact, it's a week ago today that I brought him home!
Seems longer...hmmmmmm.  Probably because of all the seed
hulls in and on my couch.  Ahem.  Oh yeah, and I'm already
thinking about getting him a pal - another hand-fed baby who
won't be ready to go for another few weeks.  

Who was it that said that one equals three in bird land?  

Anyway. Glad to be here, and I've really enjoyed reading this
Notesfile.  As a matter of fact, it's everyone here's fault
that I got into this hobby.  If everyone hadn't written about
how nice and cute their pets were I may still be living the
free, bachelorette life today!  Instead I have a little mouth
to feed now, and I have to be home every night and arrange for
babysitters if I want to go away.....  It's all your faults.

Karen 

(with birdpoop on her shoulders and feathers in her hair)

    Hi, I'm Ian Kalinosky.  My quest for a pet bird is detailed in note
    149.
    
    I'm looking for a parrot to fill the void left by the loss of my
    geese.  Until December, I had 5 pet geese, (3 of which I raised
    from day-olds).  When we moved to a our present home in December,
    I had to give up my pets as the area here is too urban for geese.
    Luckily, I was able to find a great home for them, but my wife and
    I miss their companionship and hope that a parrot will be as good
    a pet as our gaggle was.  
    
    Stay tuned to note 149!
    
    Ian 

    
    	Gary Knighting here.  My SO gave me the bird for my birthday.
    His name is Kitaro (we think -- he hasn't said one way or the other
    yet), and, judging from his temperament and vocal sounds, he's a
    cross between an Orange-Wing Amazon and a wolverine.  We've only
    had him for about a week; we rescued him from a pet store.  He looked
    like something a cat threw up at first, but he's improved a lot
    already (although it is indeed no coincidence that "molting" sounds
    so much like "revolting").
    
    	I find it very interesting to have a parrot -- you see, I'm
    really into blood blisters.  I also like the way he can turn his
    head almost all the way around.  Now I know where the demon from
    "The Exorcist" went.  This bird is loud, stubborn, mean-tempered,
    finicky, rude, and has gross personal habits.  In fact, he's so
    much like me, I think we're gonna get along fine.
    
    	BTW, does anybody know if parrots repeat what they hear most
    often?  If they do, Kitaro's first words will almost certainly be
    "OW! S**t!"  Well, I gotta go now.  I just got a Sears catalog,
    and I want to see if they have any electric parrot prods. 

    	Hi, I'm (Betty Ferguson) a new bird owner of 5 little ones.
    Monday of this week April 10/89 my husband Bob and I went out at
    lunch time to look at some birds.  We ended up buying 2 finches
    male and female, 2 budgies they are white with very little blue,
    the pet shop says they are both females .  I'm not sure , how can
    I tell.  We also bought cages ,stands, food and all kinds of toys....
    The next day , which was April 11/89 we went back to the same store
    and picked up another cage and a singing canary (light organge with
    little white).  So we now have 5 babies and our two little boys
    at home just love them, our boys are aged 4 and 2 1/2.
    
    My name: Betty Ferguson
    Work Place:  Digital 
    		 Kanata, Canada
    Mail Stop:   KAO2/12
    DTN 	  621-2419
    
    Finches:	Joyce                  my 2 1/2 year old son named her
    		Stud                   my husband named him
    
    Budgies:	Pigeon  	       my 4 year old  named them
    		Pinnocho		             
    
    Singing Canary: Peachie		I named him
    
    Time to get back to work, talk to you all soon.
    Betty
    

                     
    Name: Cathy Roberts
    Occupation: Field Service Engineer
    Place of Work: Northboro, MA.
    
         I am so happy to have found this conference.  I have two White-
    Fronted Parrots (M+F) whom I hope will produce babies some day.
    Orson was my first, he is hand tame and talking.  My son who is
    4 has no problem handling him.  Teddy was brought up from Florida
    she is a sweet bird but does not talk.  When I put the two together
    Orson became very protective of Teddy.  Now the only way I can play
    with Teddy is to put Orson in the cage.  Needless to say he gets
    very angry with me.
         I also have two Chinchillas, Two children (M+F) and last but
    not least a husband.
         My brother has a bird farm of the west coast of Florida, if
    anybody is interested in hand fed babies send me mail.
                                    Cathy
    

	Dan Eaton
	Programmer/Analyst
	NRO5 (live in Clinton, MA)

	My wife and I just got into bird-keeping this last weekend.  We bought a
pied Cockatiel from Maxine Turnell in Pepperell, MA.  The bird's name is 
Sweetie, and he (we think he's a he) is 7 weeks old, hand-fed and seems to have
taken to us immediately.

	Dan

    
    MaryAnne MacDonald
    CHET::MACDONALD
    DDD Nashua NH
    
    So glad I found this conference.  At present I own 2 budgies, Lymon
    and Wanda.  I have considered breeding but have not made a final
    decision yet.  I have owned budgies off and on for the past 10 years.
    I have also owned larger birds - a yellow nape and 2 timneh greys,
    but found that working full time, school at night, and 3 dogs and
    2-4 cats was more than enough.  All large birds are now in VERY
    good homes and I hope to have another large bird in the near future
    when I can retire from full time work outside the home.  This time
    I will be able to make a more educated selection as unfortunately
    I learned the hard way about large birds.  Therefore I am a fanatic
    when it comes to education of the public.  I also do bird sitting
    on occasion and have a client that has an aviary of approx 10 pairs
    of breeding birds.  I am an avid follower of the canine and feline
    files.

    NAMEs:	JIM MORRIN		MARY MORRIN
    NODEs:	MORRIN::JMORRIN		AKOV13::MORRIN
    LOCATIONs:	MR3			ACTON
    
    We are the proud owners of a 6month old, blue faced Amazon named
    ANKH (Mary will provide you with the source of the name). We've
    had ANKH for 6 weeks. He/shes a real joy -- hand fed etc so is very
    gentle. ANKH is now starting to talk but, only the bird knows what
    it is saying. I have a feeling that it won't be long before we won't
    be able to stop the talking.
    

    Name: Peter Bosman
    Node: UTROP1::BOSMAN_P
    Loc: 5.16b, UTO, Utrecht, Holland.
    
    Currently enjoy: 2 Salukis(persian sighthounds), 1 Persian Cat,
    1 Somali Cat.
    Past experience: 2 Sulpher Crested Cockatoos, 1 White Crested Cockatoo
    and Blue and Gold Macaw.
    Very Near Future: 2 baby Rainbow Loris( about 4 weeks old).
    Distant Future: Large aviary covering complete garden, save the
    kennel, habouring a large flock of either Cockatoos or Loris or a mix.
    So at present plans are made and info about "compatibillity" gathered.
    Future ideal: a hawk to hunt with the dogs.                  
    

    Name:  		Joyce Lewis
    NODE:		GIAMEM::LEWIS
    Work locations:     BPO1  - Marlboro Ma
    			MOO   - Marlboro Ma
    DTN:		296-3504
    
    I am a PSA for the GIA organization.  
    
    I also have a great love for all animals but birds espically.
    
    I work in a pet store part time and love it.
    I am working on opening my own pet store in Medway MA sometime in
    October of 1989.
    
    I have many pets and I will list them below:  We do charge admission
    (HA HA)
    
    1 Canary
    2 Parakeets
    2 Cockatiels
    1 Nanday Conure         
    1 Timnah African Gray   	I had him for 1 1/2 years now he talks
    1 Yellow winged Amizon      Owned for about 6 months at this writing
    1 Congo African Gray        Owned for 2 months he is 1 year old
    
    1 Guinea pig
    1 Hooded rat
    1 30 gallon fresh water fish tank
                                                                   
    I have raised Budgies in the past successfully.
    
    I also do Bird grooming in customers homes.  It is a real treat
    for me to go to the home and see the bird in its enviornment and
    to do some minor consulting if necessary.  
    
    When I go to groom the bird it includes Clipping the wings if the
    onwer wants it,  Clipping the nails and trimming the beak if necessary.
    I have a hand held sand stone that is great for trimming the toe
    nails.  I have the larger stone for the bigger birds beaks. 
    
    Going to the birds home is less stressful to the bird and the owner
    does not turn out to be the bad guy and can console the bird after
    I have finished the grooming process.  
                                
    Thanks for the opportunity to talk to people that have the same
    interest as I do. 
    
    Joyce 
    

    Name:               Sandy Schmidt
    Node:               Granma::sschmidt
    Location:           Landover, MD  (MEL)
    
    Hi everyone!  I'm also new to notes so I hope this works.  My
    husband throughly suprised me and our two cats last night by
    bringing home 2 white doves.  We're told they are male and female,
    and for lack of something more creative I have named them George
    and Gracie.  George (I think) is very messy and loves to throw
    all his food out of his dish.  Gracie is quieter and much neater.
    Gandalf and Tigger (our cats) aren't quite sure what to make
    of their new roommates.
    
    I had a grey female cockateil a few years ago that took off when
    my husband took her outside one day.  She was a super pet, though
    a nervous one.  The doves seem pretty sedate and willing to
    put up with a lot.  They are hand trained and I think will be
    super pets.  I'm just glad we have their cage hanging from the
    ceiling away from the cats.  Just call me a nervous mother.
    
    Anyway, I know absolutely nothing about doves so any info anyone
    can give me will be helpful.  From reading all the intros I
    know these aren't nearly as exciting as most of the birds I've
    read about, but their part of our crew now and I want to be a
    good parent.
    
    Glad to get to know you all!

    
    
    NAME:      LINDA DUFOUR
    NODE:      ENGINE
    LOCATION:  MAYNARD MA
    
    
    I have a Mytred Conure. His name is Red. I've had him for 2 1/2
    years. He's a pain in the ___ but I'll keep him anyways. As far
    as I know he is at least 5 years old. 

    
    
    NAME:DIANA AND KEN ONSTOTT
    NODE NAME:SHRFAC::ONSTOTT
    WORK:NKS 100 
     
          DIANA AND I ARE THE PROUD OWNERS OF 4 PARAKEETS,2 RED FISCHER
    LOVE BIRDS,AND A 6MO. OLD BABY YELLOW NAPE NAMED "SAM",AND MAYBE
    A FISH OR TWO(DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF YEAR).
                            WE LOOK FORWARD TO NOTING WITH ALL OF YOU,
                                       
           					DIANA AND KEN
    
    
    
    

    Name:  Linda Belliveau
    Node Name:cupcsg::belliveau
    dtn: 226-2748
    
    Hi everyone - this is the first reply to a notes file for me, so I hope
    it works.  At our house we have an 5 yo African Grey who's a feather
    plucker and a 2?yo Blue-front Amazon who's a real bruiser. Guess who's
    the boss? (He has a red tail!)  My partner adopted Birdie the grey and
    we adopted Buddy, the Amazon last year.  Both were nasty when they
    first arrived since they got little attention, but I'm happy to say
    they're both friendly now.  Except for a little bickering, they both live
    together in a very large cage and get along well with our two cats and
    one dog. I'm looking forward to reading this notes file; maybe we can
    keep some feathers on Birdie!
    
    Linda
    
     

    Name:  Linda Compton
    Node:  MEMCL1::COMPTON, OR MEMCL1::STWP04
    DTN:   232-2441 ACTON/PIPER ROAD, MA 
    
    Our household includes my husband, Gary, and I, along with four young
    cats (all neutered males) and 21 birds.  We had 24, but found a loving
    home for our Lutino lovebird and the two pearlie Cockatiels after 
    deciding the noise was too much in the bird room upstairs.  All birds
    are in cages, some HOIE, some homemade.  We have one male white border
    fancy canary that is waiting for a mate (have an order in with Fish
    Nook in Acton), two American singers (one red factor male and a brown
    and orange female - have set up two clutches, both infertile, so they
    are separated for now to give the hen a good rest).  We started with
    an orange-wing Amazon, who is improving gradually from the condition
    he was in when we "rescued" him from a local well-known pet store
    chain (see Note 250 and related note from me under note titled Little
    Shop of Horrors).  We also have two hand-tamed gold-capped conures, who
    are delightful, albeit noisy at first in the morning and chew through
    perches with amazing speed and indifference (the natural apple ones
    last the longest, fortunately).  Our five male and eight female budgies
    are all different colors, have special personalities with names to 
    match, and provide welcome chatter and activity in the bird room. 
    
    We just started our "aviary" in April.  Heaven knows where we'll be
    by next year!  Our house size will keep us in check for awhile.  We're
    sticking to the smaller and less expensive birds, but have ended up 
    investing a considerable amount anyway, what with the many cages we
    have now, multiples of seed and water cups, now involved in making our
    own birdseed mix, courtesy of Charla Kroll, another town resident and
    fellow bird-noter, which has already resulted in improved condition
    in the flock, especially the Amazon.
    
    We live in Clinton.  My husband, Gary, works in LKG (Littleton, MA), and 
    I work in ACO (Acton/Piper Road, MA).  The PET_BIRDS notes files has
    been a wonderful help in connecting with others and finding out how not
    to make stupid mistakes!  Thanks, moderators, and other bird-noters for
    contributing your experience and knowledge for everyone to use in their
    own way.  This is my first experience using notes on a regular basis.
    Now I see how people can get hooked on it!!
    
    Linda   

    
    
    	Name:			Bob Acheson
    	Nodename/username	BAHTAT::ACHESON
    	Work			British Telecom Site Resident Engineer
    	Interests		Pet Birds and Photography
    
    	I had a pair of Grey Cockatiels up until recently, now have
    no birds, but am frantically making myself obvious so that a nice
    Parrot (African Grey or Green Amazon) might choose to share my cage.
    
    
    Cheeps
    Bob

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    Hi folks, 
       I am new to the bird column 
    I own two Yellow Napes, Lacy and Lolita. Five yrs old and two and
    a half. Wouldn t part with them for anything. I am at NSO in Salem,
    N.H.
                                      rosemary
    

    Ooops excuse the late intro.
    
    Hi everbody my name is Lise Kuhlmann I tempt wherever the assginment
    takes me. Hopefully I can stay with Dec until I get hired.
    right now I am at LMO2 in Marlboro Ma.
    
    The birds at my boyfriends place have allowed me into their humble
    abode!! He has Pistol Pete: bebee parrot, Beaker: Male Grey Cocktiel
    Tony: Salmon crested Molcun Cocktoo( my nickname for him is stuffed
    shirt!) And my favorite Samanatha: Yellow Nape Amazon, with almost
    no yellow! the ages on the first 3 birds are 10-15 years of age
    and Samantha is about 13-14 months old. Very active and going through
    the teething age, if you don't mind getten bitten or nipped then
    you may pet her.
      When we zoom Samantha around on the remote control we say go granny
    go.
      She picks up everday conversations, so we have to be careful what
    we talk about within earshot.  
    
    Just wanted to say thank-you for all the help everyone has given
    us  so far in this conference.
    
    Lise J. Kuhlmann 

    HELLO, MY NAME IS THOM AUSTIN-GALLUZZO AND I WORK AT APO. MY EXTENDED
    FAMILY CONSISTS OF 2 KEETS NAMED ALLEGRO AND LARGO. THEY WERE A GIFT
    TO MY DAD IN JANUARY. SINCE THEN I REALLY HAVEN'T BEN ABLE TO SPEND A
    GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THEM, BUT DO ENJOY THEIR COMPANY. 
    SOME QUESTIONS I HAVE.
    FIRST. THEIR BEHAVIOUR PATTERNS. I NOTICED THAT BOTH LOVE TO BOB THEIR 
    HEADS UP AND DOWN WHEN THEY GET EXCITED.
    2ND. DO FEMALES CHRIP MORE THAN MALES. ALLEGRO JUST LOVES TO SIT AND
    SING TO HERSELF AND TO LARGO.
    ANY OTHER INFORMATION WOULD BE APPRECIATED.      THANKS
    

                          -( Fred, Rita & Two nonames )-
                                                               
    Name: Carey Bickes                                             
    Node: Shrfac::Bickes                                           
    Lou.  Shrewsbury 1                                          
                                                                   
          Hi Everyone, I am a owner of one Cockatoo (Fred) which I
          just received, he is two & mean, I hope to settle him
          down, a Cocktail (Rita) about 8 years old a great whistler
          & two finches that we have to name yet. This is a great note
          file for it has helped me alot..       WIZzard
    

    Hi, my name is Stan Woods and I can be reached on obiwan::woods.
    I own two cockatoos, one lesser (timor species) for about five yrs. 
    and an 11 month ol domestic Mollucan.   Billy is the lesser and Sammy
    being the Mollucan. Love this conference!
    Stan

    NAME: DICK DEVINE 
    NODE: PARITY::DEVINE
    HOME: SALEM N.H.
    
          HI, I REALLY ENJOY THIS CONFERENCE. I HAVE 1 COCKATIEL (PEARLY)
    NAMED MELITTA, 6 PARAKEETS (SNOWBIRD, FANCY, FREDDIE, TWEETY, BURT AND
    ERNIE,) AND 3 ZEBRA FINCHES (JACK, CRISSY AND JANET)

    
    I thought I had already placed an introduction, but apparently
    I hadn't.  
    I am the owner of two peach-faced lovebirds.  One of them is a
    recent addition, due to the death of Miney, an adorable female.
    I was hoping the new addition would be another female and I 
    think Moe, the male was also longing for a female.  Unfortunately
    I think the new addition is male.  :^(
    The solution is to find two females to match up with these
    lonely guys.  (Maybe I should place an ad in Singles for them).
    They keep to themselves for the most part, except for an
    ocassional bath in a water glass while I'm drinking from it.
    I guess I should tell you about me.  I work at FXO in Franklin,
    Ma. and live in Clinton, where apparently a majority of the
    participants in this notefile reside.
    
    

    
    NAME: Monica Grey
    NODE: enovax::grey
    LOC : ENO (Enfield, Connecticut)
    DTN : 324-4269
    
    HI, I just discovered this notesfile!  I have a sky blue parakeet named
    Joe.  Joe will be 8 years old in June.  I am looking forward to reading
    and learning more about birds.

    
    Hello everybody,
    
    I'm back again for a few months at newbury (GB).
    
    Nothing much has changed on the macaw front. All seven are still there,
    but we do have another birds (were two to start) i.e. a European Eagle
    Owl, who was bred in captivity. My, is he BIG!
    
    Nice to be back.
    
    See ya,
    
    Wivine.

    Hi,
    
    This note file is great!  The more I read the more I add to my bird
    collection!  I would love to someday have an African Grey, but until
    then this is what I have:
    
    One Grey Check Parakeet:  Keego
    Two Fischer Love Birds:   Tubbs & Crockett
    Two breeding canaries:    Mr. & Mrs. Howell (soon to be parents of 4!
                              Will probably have to name them after the
                              Brady Bunch or something!) :*}
    
    Peggy Werber
    tpsys::werber
    Littleton, MA 

    
    Name: Elias Rodriguez
    Node: AGOUTL::Rodriguez_El
    Work: AGO Puerto Rico
    Dtn:  722-2050
    
    
    Hi,
    
    Just learned about Vaxnotes by accident, but this is terrific.
    I currently own five breeding pairs of Lovebirds:
    
           1- Fischers                 4- Pastelblue - Peachfaced
           2- Blue-Masked              5- Lutino - Peachfaced
           3- Black-Masked
    
    I started with the Fischers, (Lorita & Polly), as a hobby, but 
    then began trading the babies for other species. I do not have a 
    lot of space so I have to sell the babies.
                           
    Looking forward to meeting a lot of Bird Lovers over this system !
                                                                    
    
    Regards,
    Elias
    

    
    Name: John Yung
    Node: VERSA::Yung
    Work: CYO Cincinnati Field Service
    Dtn:  432-7750
    
    Hi
    
    	I have replied to this confrence but have never said hello.
    I have a Blue and Gold Macaw, or should I say he has me.  He is
    1 year old and is talking and singing up a storm.
    
    John

    
    Name:  Melanie Frechette
    Node:  MEMORY::FRECHETTE
    Work:  Shrewsbury, MA 
    Job:   Project Specialist
    DTN:   237-3048
    
    I have a parakeet named Atomic.  Mic for short.  He is a wild little
    guy of 2 years.  Loves to play with his lifesize plastic bird.  He is
    only in his cage at night.  I only wish I could potty train him.  
    
    Melanie

    Name:  Julie Goonan
    Node:  CURIE::GOONAN
    Loc:   MRO4  Marlboro
    Job:   Software Tech. Writer
    Group: ESG
    
    I received a pair of peach faced lovebirds from my husband for
    Valentine's Day.  They don't have names yet, but they might become
    Wolfgang and Constanza, after Mr. and Mrs. Mozart.  They seem to
    appreciate classical music, especially 17th and 18th century.   Vivaldi
    really makes them come to life.  But if the music skips, they start
    scolding severely.  This seems to prove they have great musical
    sensibilities, but I could also just be a proud mom!  They also like
    twigs from the trees outside, pine needles, oak, and maple.  They like
    to do acrobatic dances on them and eat the needles, buds, and bark.  I
    tried a pine needle, it wasn't too bad, a lot more moisture than you
    would think, and a pleasant tangy taste.  This conference is very
    enjoyable and educational.  Thanks,
    
    -Julie

    I'm peripherally interested in pet birds. I used to work with the
    raptor program at the University of Missouri. I enjoyed working with
    them and I like animals of all kinds.
    
    steve popkes
    usmrm3::spopkes
    

    Name: Mike Angelicas
    Location: das1 Dascomb road Andover M.A.
    
       I have and orange winged amazon named Sampson. He was previously
    owned and is almost seven years old. I've had him for almost 2 years
    now.  He's an excellant talker and is very well behaved 99.99% of
    the time.  He is cage trained(only poops in or on his cage), he
    also lets me trim his beak and nails with no problems. I leave
    his wings natural because he is an excellant flier. When I first
    got him they were clipped and he would crash alot. Now when ever
    he gets the urge to soar he usually takes off from his cage,flies
    into the kitchen and flies back to his cage.He can also hover great.
     He's better than any dog or cat that I've owned and alot
    more affectonate..  
    
    MIke 

    
    
    Carl Scarborough
    Shrewsbury Mass.
    
    I have an Congo African Grey.  I bought him a few weeks ago and enjoy
    his company more everyday.  He's about a year old and is just starting
    to talk.  A bit cranky, awnarry but that's the way I like him.
    
       Carl,
          

    Hi!  My name is Debbi Grady, formally Nenonen.  I work at MLO5-2 and
    have worked for DEC 14 years.  I have been reading this notes file only
    for a short time but enjoy it very much.  I've had birds for 10 years.
    My bird "family" (I have dogs, cats & horses too) consists of:
    
    		1 Blue Fronted Amazon
    		2 Nandy Conures (nesting right now)
    		4 Cockatiels
    		2 Lovebirds
    
    We have lots of fun and I try to make everythings as comfortable for
    all as much as possible.  I have more stories that I have time to 
    think about but when the next "unusual" one comes along or if I find
    any "amazing " info. I will write about it.  It was comforting to know
    my 4 year old Amazon was just doing his/her matting dance a few weeks
    ago (I thought he was getting ill or something by the sounds he made)
    but after reading some of the previous notes I realized he was just
    being "normal".  As he get's older every spring is something new...
    
    			Thanks for being here...
    
    				Deb
    

	Who am I: 	Dora E. Dirrman
	What mail Node: CSOA1
	Where am I:	Akron , Ohio
	

	We are the proud owners of a cockatiel (hand fed, had her for 9 
	months) and we just aquired a Blue Crowned Conure (about 1 year
	old - and tamed somewhat). The Conure is proving to be quite a
	challange. We really are just animal nuts!
    
    	I am looking forward to a ton of good information!
    

    Hi,
    
    Name:               Sharon Look
    Nodename:           Dneast::Look_Sharon
    Location            ASO  (Augusta, Me.)
    
    My husband and I have gone to the birds! But we love 'em. We started
    out with one Cockatiel in August of this year. Now we have a total of
    8 birds. We have: 4 Parakeets-all of them are 10 weeks old
                                 Dusty has a lavender body and brown &
                                       tan wings
                                 Tweety is all yellow with red eyes
                                 Skyler is sky blue with grey & white wings
                                 Tiny is aqua.
                       
                      2 Cockatiels 
                                 Bart is 8 mos. old and he is a normal
                                 Lupie is 3 mos. old and is a Lutino
                      1 Parrot named Rocko. He is a 6 mo. old Mexican
                                 Redhead (also called a Greencheek)
                      1 Mini-Macaw
                                 Simon is 6 mos. old and he is a yellow
                                 collared mini-macaw
    
    We love all of our birds, but Rocko and Simon are the ones that want
    the most attention. They both talk, but Rocko is the real talker right
    now. Simon is a real baby. He loves to cuddle.
        I am real happy that this file is here.

    Guess it is time to introduce myself......
    
    Name:        Susan Sipila
    Nodename:    Bagldy::Sipila
    Location:    ML04-2/T65 
    
    I have been reading this notesfile for almost a year now and find
    it very helpful.
    
    First time bird owner.  Mom to two extremely spoiled Zebra Finches.
    - Max and Maggie.
    
    In a couple of years I would like to get a larger bird and this
    file will probably help me decide on what to get and what breeder
    to buy from.
    
    I also get Bird Talk and enjoy Pat Walz articles.
    
    Keep up the good work everyone.  I am truly glad I found this file!
    

HI
    I just started reading the file about a month ago because I was
    thinking of getting rid of my last two cockatiels, I would like
    to get canaries.  I live in an apartment and so far they have tolerated
    my disregard for the NO PETS clause.
    
    I have owned many pet parakeets, graduated to cockatiels with the
    intent to selective breed but since moving to New England have not
    had any luck.  My birds all came from Arizona.  Flew here quite
    successfully in the cargo hold of the plane. 
    
    I have a male silver Pearl, with cinnamon in his genes and a female
    cinnamon pied head.  WeeHawk and Sparkles.  WeeHawk comes from a
    long line of talkers. He says WeeHawk loves Laura, Hello and wistles
    oscar meyer weener, bridge on the river qui, yankee doodle and the
    typical wolf and come here wistles.
    
    As for me I work at the Hudson facility, and and live in an apartment
    in Marlboro.

    hi, my name is tina whitney. i work at lm02 in marlboro, massachusetts.
    dtn is 296-5771, and my node name is airg::tina.
    
    i have two cockatiels, pookie and pookette.  i bought pookie just about
    a year ago, and my husband bought pookette in july for my birthday.
    they are a lovely pair -- except like most couples -- they have their
    share of arguments (pookie can now be called spike because pookette
    plucked all his head feathers (save one or two), and pookette's ear
    feathers have been picked clean -- i have been told not to worry about
    it because they are just marking each other to show ownership.).
    
    they are quite good flyers (pookie was a breeder bird and therefore was
    not use to being handled; pookette was a hand-raised bird, but she took
    over pookie's habit of not liking to held so i leave them unclipped
    thereby saving my fingers.).
    
    i also have a cat (kitty), two house rabbits (buggs and midge), two
    fish tanks (30 & 55 gallons), and a horse (also named pookie -- i am
    not real orginal with names.).  my immediate goal is to  learn alot
    from this conference because my future goal is to buy a hand-raised
    cockatoo.
    
        -- t

    name:	Pat Pederson
    location:	TFO (Arizona)
    
    Hi all,
    
    We are in the process of getting a peach-front conure.
    My husband has been helping some friends of his move cages,
    and installing a water system for their tropical birds.
    They wanted to thank us (him) by giving us one of the
    hatchlings. She is going to set us up with cage and everything!
    Even teach it a couple of words!
    
    This will be our first time owning a bird....we already have
    an Australian Shepherd dog (or should I say "HE has US" :-).
    I hope all goes well when we introduce the dog to the bird.
    
    At first we were going to call the bird Larry (as in Larry the Bird),
    but finally settled on Pancho. Our dog's name is Nikoma.
    
    Just added this file, so as soon as I learn a little more, I'm
    sure I'll be asking *lots* of questions.....
    
    till later
    
    pat  :-)
    

    Name:  Lynn Marino
    Node:  ASABET::MARINO
    Location:  PKO3 (Parker Street, Maynard)
    
    We (my fiance and I) currently own a Timneh Grey named Apollo, and 
    a Yellow Naped Amazon naped Bobo.  Apollo is 4 1/2 years old with an
    extensive vocabulary and numerous animals.  Bobo is now 1 year old
    (we got him when he was 2 1/2 months and was still being hand fed)
    he is the more relaxed of the two being a domestic and is a real
    show-off and he wants 100% of our attention all the time.  His voc-
    abulary grows daily and Apollo is teaching him the different animals
    and whistles.  Bobo also has a new game he enjoys playing catch with
    us while standing on top of his cage.  They are wonderful companions
    to have and we would never think about giving them up.  

    Name: 	Donna Lane
    NODE:	DELNI::D_LANE
    
    Hi,  my name is Donna and I work in LKG (Littleton,MA).  I am pretty
    new to birds & this conference.  Right now I am the owner of 2
    cockatiels: Ava (Grey male) & Garkon (Lutino - probably female), a 5-6 week
    old Nanday Conure named Bandit (just picked him up 3 days ago) & 2
    Zebra Finches: Harry & Sally.  Harry & Sally & eggs are going to a new 
    home (fellow PET_BIRDS noter) tomorrow.
    
    Bandit is so sweet.  He loves to snuggle and was hand fed.  He's still
    eating baby food once a day, and is cracking seed fine.  I love him so
    much and he seems to adore me too!  Other people can hold him and
    snuggle with him, so I don't know if he's "bonded" with anyone yet, but
    if he does soon, I hope it's with me.  My boyfriend bought him for
    me/us this weekend and doesn't live with me so he can't spend as much
    time with him as I do.  My mom said Bandit was a hyper around her
    yesterday, and as soon as he came to me he was all quiet, snuggly &
    full of kisses.  Is that a good sign, or does he think I'm his mommy??
    
    I had no experience with birds at all when Ava & Garkon moved in.
    Ava & Garkon were 3 years old when I adopted them in October.  Garkon
    is much more friendly than Ava, but still not very social.  I'm hoping
    that will change.  I believe that they were neglected or abused,
    because they are so antisocial and Ava lets out this awful squak when
    anyone moves to quickly around him.  He doesn't like to be touched at
    all!!  Neither of them are into being petted to much and both of them
    don't seem to like Bandit too much.  Ava & Garkon have a playpen on top
    of their cage and won't let Bandit play with them. They hiss and lunge
    at him.  I'm hoping they don't teach him how to be anit-social, mean or
    bite.  I wish they would all get along.  I was actually hoping that
    Bandit would encourage them to come around more.  
    
    Harry, Sally & Finch eggs are going to a new home tomorrow.  I'm sure
    they'll be fine.  I sure will miss them though.  My boyfriend told me
    that I had to find a new home for the Finch family in order for him to
    buy Bandit for me (Blackmail in my mind).  He said that I was becoming
    out of control and that taking birds home with me is getting out of
    hand.  Of course I agreed, and he said he'd give me the time to find a
    good home for them.  I would have hated to seperate them.  I was very
    lucky to have such quick luck finding a home with someone excited to
    have them!  (Thank you Linda!)  Boy would he be surprised if he knew
    how out of control I really could be (like some of you   ;^).
    
    Thank you for this conference & this chance to introduce myself.
    
    Donna

    Name:  Linda Sobek
    NODE:  ISLNDS::SOBEK
    LOC:   BXC1   Boxboro, MA
    
    Thanks to Donna Lane (see 6.101) I now share my life with Harry
    and Sally (Zebra) Finch. I am a long-time admirer of birds, pet
    and wild, but the only indoor pet birds I have had in the past were the
    Budgies I had in my youth. I loved them dearly and am excited about
    the enjoyment of having birds in our home again.
    
    Harry and Sally are beautiful and entertaining. I couldn't have asked
    for a better opportunity to begin learning what I need to know to
    be a good bird caretaker. My mind keeps wandering to thoughts of
    aviary plans, vitalites and aviary visits. Could it be there are
    more birds in our future?
    
    Ah, well. For now I will settle for enjoying Harry and Sally while
    I learn as much as I can (thanks to this notesfile) and talk with
    as many bird breeders as I can.  I won't move ahead too quickly
    ....unless, of course, someone knows where I can find the perfect
    young, healthy, hand-tamed, beautiful and inexpensive Sun Conure.
    Then all bets are off! :^)
                                                                     
    Welcome home Harry and Sally ...and Thank you, Donna!
    
    
    Linda
                               

    Name: Carl Koellhoffer
    Node: csc32::koellhoffer	
    Loc:  CX03 Colorado Springs, Co
    
    A fellow DECie FOUND a nandy contore in his front yard and was not	
    charmed by it. It (no name yet) was a real biter at first, but after 	
    lots of tlc in three days IT's sitting and S____ on my shoulders. Very
    happy to stand on my feet while on the coffee table and watch tv.
    if anybody has any recommand's on what to feed it let me know. It 
    does seem to have one foot broken, (can not close it) His spirit is 	
    good. Now if I can only keep my keeshound from trying to have it for 
    lunch, ;<). The Decie did ask all his neighbors if it was theirs but
    nobody owned up to it. 
    	If anybody has a good idea for a name let me know.

    Bob McQueeney
    Security Expertise Center
    Dallas, TX (@SCA)
    
    I just started reading this file today.  You see, I bought a "used"
    Amazon Yellow Nape over the weekend, and thought I'd get into the swing
    by ingesting this file.  After seeing all the replies, however, I SET
    SEEN/BEFORE=01-JAN-1991 and I'll try to dig through it from there.
    
    "Cricket" is his/her name, since that seems to be about all he can say
    at this point.  My neighbor found the bird in his yard a couple of
    weeks ago.  After checking the local newspapers for lost/found with no
    results, he sold me the bird for $300, which I thought was a reasonable
    price.  I have no idea of the age of this bird, but he/she is very
    affectionate and people-oriented.  I'm seeking a vet in the area who
    specializes in parrots, but to no avail at this time.
    
    A few years ago, I had an African Grey, so I'm pretty familiar with the
    handling/training/feeding/cleaning of these birds.  The grey was
    disposed of by my (now ex) wife when I was at work one day.  The same
    fate will NOT befall this baby, I can tell you.  My current wife is
    ENTHRALLED with this bird, and they get on fabulously.
    
    I'm looking forward to exchanging notes/stories/etc.
    
    

    Hi,
    
    I'm Gwen.  I've been read-only here for a couple of months now and
    decided it would only be polite to sign in.
    
    I work in MR4 and live in Harvard.  I have finches - 2 gray zebras,
    1 white zebra, 3 orange cheeked waxbills, 1 silverbill, a pair
    Societies, and two male owls.  I hope to acquire a female owl at 
    some point and I'm sort of intrigued with parrot finches.
    
    I live with friends in their (large) house.  In our zoo we have:
    
    three cats
    one Standard Poodle - not your standard fru-fru dog, no way!
    two male cockatiels - the sing "we wish you a merry christmas"
                          and say Good Morning, and Oh-Oh! The Cat!
    and in the back yard 12 Arabian horses...but only two are mine!
    We just finished building (having built) a new 12 stall barn for
    the horses.
    
    I'm looking forward to furthering my bird edcation in this file.
    
    gwen
    
    

    Hi, 
    
    I've participated in this conference for years, but never entered my
    introduction. Now That I am a moderator, I feel obligated.
    
    I have 5 budgies(Buddie, Rita, Jake, Mr Tweets and Jeunita) 1 Blue
    Front Amazon(Joker), 1 Dove (Bugger) , 2 cats (Cali and Dusty) 3 dogs
    (2 cockers [Sadie & Heidi] and 1 mongrel[Tippy]), 3 Kids (Marilyn[15],
    Audrey [10] and Andrew[21 months]) and one wife (Georgette)
    
    I plan on NO MORE additions as I have enough to keep me busy.
    
    Doug

    This is an update to note 6.99.......
    
    Pancho (our peach-front conure) just got a new buddy,
    a brown-throated conure named Cisco! We got him last
    Tuesday.
    
    Pancho has been weird....he doesn't like to be touched on
    his back or head and will bite to draw blood if we try to
    hold him. We could accept that.....he loves to ride on my
    shoulders and will perch on my finger and will give little
    kisses. But since we couldn't touch him, we can't groom him at 
    all (helping to unfurl feathers and massaging the sheaths) so
    he's been looking pretty ratty. We got Cisco so that he
    would have company and each would groom the other. It's worked
    out well. For the last couple of days they have been sleeping
    side by side on the swing and preening each other.
    
    Cisco is soooo mellow! we can hold him, stroke his back, kiss him,
    and he'll even lay on his back in the palm of my hand.
    
    However, Pancho is now a terror around us. He will no longer take
    food from my hand, bites at my neck when on my shoulder and
    goes into attack pose when I open the cage. I think it's
    because he's jealous.....can birds get jealous? Will he
    eventually grow out of it? I read a story similar to this in
    the latest Birdtalk, and the response sounded like this is the
    way it's gonna be....from now on. Say it ain't so! The breeder
    said she would take back Pancho, but we just can't part with
    him (sucky attitude and all).
    pat
    

    
     Name: Tom Clement
     Node: BOSOX::TCLEMENT
     Location: DAS Andover Ma.
    
    Hello everyone, I've been a read only for quite some time and thought
    that it was time to sign in!.  I got into bird about 2 years ago when
    my inlaws gave me a tiel. Since then my collection has grown to 9
    Tiels, 5 are adults and 4 are at 12 weeks, 2 parakeets and recently
    sold off my 2 canaries and 3 peach_faced love birds. (was getting to
    crowded indors). 
                      I have found a way to further my collection without
    crowding my house. A friend of mine asked if I wanted to raise chickens
    for the eggs, I said sure, why not!. So now I got this crazy Idea, I
    not only built a chicken coop, now I have a coop for another breed.
    They call them ornimental birds, they are very colorful and need no
    special care, (heat that is). I recently purchased a pair of Gold
    Phesant and four Dark Forest Pharohs (quail type), these birds have 
    fantastic color.
    
      Well, that's it for now, untill the Fairs open, then I'll be buying
    more outdoor birds...  (what did I get myself into!)
    
     Tom. 
    

    Hi!  I though it was time I introduced myself.  My story started about
    a year and a half ago when my fiance (then boyfriend) brought me to
    Bird Jungle in Westchester to see the cockatiels.  He had finches
    before, and his mother had kept parakeets.  I come from a strictly
    CAt-olic family, so I had no experience with birds.  Needless to say, I
    fell completely in love with the first little sweetie that crawled up
    my arm and whistled in my ear.
    
    Now, my father has a cinnamon tiel (a gift from me, of course!), we
    have two Lutino's, one white male (Dagwood) and a yellow female
    (Blondie), and my little brother just told me last week, after taking a
    trip to Bird Jungle with me, that he has purchased an Umbrella
    Cockatoo!
    
    The disease is definitely catching!
    
    

    
     Hi,
    
        as i read on in this note file (wish is an exelent note file) i
     learn more and more, so i'm introducing my self, i had not so far.
     Well, i own two orange wing, two quakers, two lovebirds, one mynah,
     and four finches so far, my intentions are to keep growing, maybe
     a few more finches of diffrent colors and perhaps a pair of rosellas.
    
       I hope to share a few things with you all, and i sure appreciate
    your knowlish thats for sure, there is very knowlishble people is this
    notes file.
    
                                              Juan

    
    Name: Dan Snow
    Node: VLS3TW::SNOW
    Location: TAY-2
    
    
    	Time to sign in, having been read only for most of the last year.
    My wife (Linda, another Deccie) and I started out with a Budgie about 
    a year ago. Two weeks later we thought one of our cats got it, so Lin
    was dispatched to the Fish Nook for a replacement. While she was gone
    the missing bird was located, giving us two. Homer and Vicky have been
    together since then, and while semi-tamed, much prefer their own
    company to ours!
    	So yesterday it was off to the Fish Nook again. This time we came
    home with a Pied Cockatiel. We think it's a she, so after much
    discussion and the rejection of many many names, She was named Sharra.
    (Anyone familiar with Anne MacCauffrey's "Dragon Riders of Pern" series
    should recognize that name.)
    	

    RE: 112 - Just curious where was the missing bird and how
    was he/she found?

    Hi,
    I own two parakeets - Woz (named for Steve Wozniak) and Sunny, named
    for her bright yellow coloring.  They have been lots of fun without
    requiring an excessive amount of care.  I have two cats also and I
    watch very closely when they are near the birds.  
    
    Judy Woo (temp)
    

    Name:	Ron Ryan
    Node:	Kaofs::r_ryan
    
    Hello. I've been reading this conference on and off for the last little
    while and decided to introduce myself as I have found some of the
    information and views of the various bird owners interesting. At this
    time I share accomidations with A double yellow Amazon by the name of
    Frodo, and three cockatiels;Pippin, Gimli, and Fatty Lumpkin. Two other
    cockatiels I had died in the last year; Merry ( My first bird) from
    flying into a door and Legolas from laying too many eggs. Both were
    very painful experiences.
    I also had a beautiful Medium Sulpher that was the gentlest bird you
    could imagine, that I was forced to find a good home for. His name was
    Bilbo. ( I here he's doing very well and is very happy. 8-)
    Anyway....this seems to be a fairly informative conference....Thanks.
    Regards,
    Ron

    
      Name:     Birgit Fischer
      Node:     COLISC::BFISCHER
      Location: @COO  Cologne in (West) Germany
    
    Hi, 
    
    I just heard about this conference. I haven't read the directory yet,
    but I think that this conference will be very interesting for me.
    
    My only problem will be, that I can spaek and write a little english,
    but I don't know all the words I need to describe something. I hope
    that you can understand it, if I then give you the german expression.
    I'll try and do my best!
    
    Alright, let's start. At the moment I have:
    
    6 budgies        (the smaller one's, not the standard with the big breast 
                     and the big head), 1 of them is a half-standard.
    
    1 Ziegensittich  It belongs to the same class as the budgies, it's not
                     a parrot. He is twice as big as the budgies, dark
                     green, a light green brest and a red spot on his head.
                     He seems to be quite rare here, nearly nobody knows
                     anything about him. I'll search for the Latin name
                     on the Citis I have.
    
    1 Nymphensittich He also belongs to the budgie-class, no parrot.
                     He is a rare one because of his colour. Normally they
                     are yellow, white or grey. Mine is yellow with a
                     touch of brown in the wings and at the brest.
                     He has this funny hat like a kakadoo on his head.
    
    Also I have a dog (Saluki-Mix), a rat and some fish.
    
    My budgies and the fish are breeding at the moment, so there is some
    action at home. If somebody needs help by raising small budgies, just ask
    me, I raised 3 of them and it's kind of fun. 2 of them are breeding
    thereselves now.
    
    Birgit_happy_with_animals 
    

Hello , fellow bird lovers.  I am located in Louisville , Ky in sales
@LVO.  My wife and I have two birds - a Yellow Nape and a Cockatel(?).

we get hours of enjoyment from our yellow nape.  We have finally found
a decent VET.  Its about 5 years old, we have had it(not sexed) for 
two years.  we had a rough time at first. We bought the nape from a 
pet store.  It was sick and I had many bills total up that I took the 
store to small claims court to get some of the bills paid.  I am glad 
to say its in good health today and loves to talk and tries to sing , 
but we haven't figured out what its trying to sing.

it says - come here , what you doing , I'm just a baby bird , hello , 
well---gotta go , byby, it calls our dogs when they are in the house 
and tells them to go(our command to get the dogs out of the house. it 
loves to whistle the Mayberry tune.  and to yell at our other bird that 
chirps loudly. The nape usually yells BOBO shut up.

The nape also says I want a good super, ask for cracker or apple and 
gets upset if we dont bring it into the dinning room T-stand to eat 
with us.  

Its nice to see so many other bird lovers.

        
    
    Name:  Linda Saraco
    Location: PKO3
    DTN: 223-5602
    Node:  esmail::saraco
    
    
    My Umbrella Cockatoo had been given the name Snowie when I got her 15
    years ago.  She is lots of fun and very cuddly.  
    
    Snow hasn't had a chance to play with other birds in a long time. 
    Some time ago I was a member of a Boston club.  There were meetings
    and outings that I could bring Snow to where she could interact with
    other birds.  I'd welcome an opportunity to get together with others 
    who have a cockatoo.  
    
    Linda
    
    
    

Hello fellow feather fanciers,

My wife and I have been following this notes fil for the past couple 
of months and feel its about time we introduce ourselves as we feel we 
have already gotten to know many of you and your feathered friends 
just from the notes.  Currently, we are owned by a 1 and 1/2 year
old-loud but lovable, handfed Nandy Conure (Andy). We are now in a
search for a baby hand fed African Grey, preferably on two feedings a
day. We have only been in New Hampshire 1 1/2 years, originally from
Southern California where over the years have had a parakeet, a
Mulucan(?) Cockatoo, a Yellow Nape, a yellow collar Macaw and a Dusky
Conure.  We are looking forward to meeting some of you thru clubs or
organizations, birds of a feather flock together. Its really nice
to see so many bird lovers here on the East Coast. 

John and Sharon Steinman
ZKO

    I guess that is time that I introduce myself. I have been reading this
    file for a few months now. The information in the file helped me decide
    on the type of bird to buy. I am the proud owner of a three month
    Eclectus male named Spock. I bought him from an East Coast Avaries
    in Florida. The breeder was great and I really recomend her if you are
    looking for an Eclectus.
    
    When Spock arrived I had to hand feed him two meals a day. Spock is my
    first parrot and the first bird that I had to hand feed. The first few
    meals were a complet disaster, I'm still finding splattered food in far
    corners of my kitchen. He is now on one feeding every other evening.
    He cries just like a baby on the nights that he has to eat on his own.
    I found that hot plain popcorn will help him make it through the night.
    It's not that he is really hungry because on the nights that I do feed
    him he really doesn't want the food he just wants to play with the
    spoon, I think he just likes the idea of getting feed.
    
    Regards
    Mary Ann

    
    Well, since I have put in a reply to a note already, I figured I would
    now introduce myself.
    
    My name is Steve Santinelli, and I work at DDD in Nashua, NH.  
    
    I have been reading this conference for a few months now, to help me
    get a feel for what I'm about to get into.
    
    My fiance works for Dr. Phenix in Milford, NH.  Since she started there
    she has grown to love birds, and she wants a couple.  Soon.  Very soon.
    Hopefully, after we get married in May, we will be able to afford to
    satisfy her need for birds.
    
    As far as my personal bird knowledge goes, I have, in the past, had two
    Parrotkeets (sp?), with dogs being more of my strong point.  
    
    I also want to thank everyone in this conference for the invaluable
    information this notesfile provides.  I would sound like a babbling
    idiot in front of my fiance, if this conference didn't exist!
    
    
    

    to introduce myself:
    
    Name:		Bob Acheson
    Nodename:		SHAWB1::ACHESON
    Location:		Call Management Centre (Diagnosis) Warrington U.K.
    
    	I have always wanted a parrot, and finally managed it last week. My
    beloved wife finally agreed, under a no smoking condition, to allow me
    the honour of 'owning' one.
    
    	He is an Orange Winged Amazon about three years old. He is called
    Napolean (don't know why) and upto press wolf whistles, says "hello"
    and "hello napoly" (he can't quite manage napolean). When I got him last
    week he wouldn't entertain being touched or anyone going near him
    without either a very loud protestation, or a biting attempt. I have
    put quite alot of time into him and now he will allow me to pick him
    up, or rather he will climb onto me, and he will allow me to stroke his
    head and neck. I must say I am delighted with his progress and not a
    little surprised ( the person I bought him off said he did not like
    being touched). We are now planning to introduce him to the joys of
    caravanning so that he can come with us when we go off.
    
    
    Cheers
    
    Bob

    
    
    	Tom Butler
    	FXO (Semiconductor Business Operations)
    	On BUSY::TBUTLER
    
    	   My Wife and I are the proud owners of the worlds most
    intelligent and talented Cockatiel...Cory.  We got him November
    of 1989 and have loved every minute since....well maybe not every
    minute.  He sings, talks a bit and cuddles with the best of them.
    The most amazing thing that I learned having Cory is how much of
    a personality birds have.  He sure has one and when he doesn't
    get his way watch out!  He is so smart that the only way to keep
    him from something he wants to get to is to either remove it or
    remove him.  While we'd love to have more birds, at this time,
    Cory is enough to manage and we're happy with just him for now.
    
    
    Tom

    
    Hmmm.  Just realized I never put an intro in here.
    
    Chris Denopoulos.  Work in MRO1 quality/reliability for the fault
    tolerant group.
    
    We have 4 cockatiels at home.  Chester, a male lutino, was our first.
    We got him from a breeder in South Caroline.
    His mate, Hope, is a gray.  We've been mating these two as a hobby.  WE
    get more lutinos than grays from them.  WE have 5 lutino babies now
    from them that will be ready to go soon.
    We also have Elmo, a female lutino (I didn't pick the name).  Elmo is
    the daughter of Chester and my sister-in-laws female gray.  Elmo's mate
    is Barney, a male gray we bought from another noter.  Barney has a real
    cute personality.  We will probably start mating Barney and Elmo this
    fall.  I'm expecting some real nice colors from them.
    

    Tweet tweet!
    
    My name is Catherine.  I am the receptionist at MWO (Milwaukee, WI). 
    My nodename and user name:  Anglin::receptionm.
    
    I have been working in this office since March.
    
    I have 2 birds.  Zebra finches named George and Eep.   Eep is one of a
    pair of birds I got for my birthday.  The other of this pair died in
    the jaws of my sweet kitty cat named Calvin. :(   So off to the pet
    store to get Eep a friend.  In came George.  
    
    The pair sing gaily all day long.  This drives my fiance crazy, but I
    *love* to listen to their songs.
    
    Since the terrible incident, I have kept the bird cage as close to the
    celing as possible so that Calvin does not have either George or Eep
    for lunch.  All in all, I have 2 cats, 2 birds, 1 dog, and a 7 year old
    boy.  They keep me out of trouble.
    
    I am looking forward to participating in this confernce.
    
    Catherine
    

    
    
         I am Charles "Chuckers" Walston, working at WRO in Santa Clara, CA. I
    am the proud owner of a 3 year old, tame and talking, African Grey
    parrot, Colors. 
    
        Considering where we found Colors, he has come along way. This is
    the second parrot that I have owned, the first being an Amazon Red.
    Usually, I obtain these birds after they have been neglected. So it
    takes that much more patience and affection before they become starring
    members of the Walston clan.
    
        I am looking forward to this conference, and all the information
    that I can use.
    
        Chuckers
    
         

    
         Just wanted to jump in here and say good bye.  If I can't find and
    internal job by Friday, then I'll be out of the company.  I wanted to
    thank everyone for the help I've had since I've been in this notesfile.
    Before I started in here, I was a one cockatiel owner.  Now I have 4
    and breed twice a year!! 
         I wish everyone luck with their birds (especially the ones that
    bought their birds from me), and I wish everyone a happy and healthy 
    future.
         Since I have a relative that works here, you may just see my name
    again when I start breeding again.
         
         Take care everyone,
         Chris D.
        

    	Sorry to hear you are being TFSO'd!!  Best of luck!
    
    	-VT

    Cindy Pagel
    OHF
    Central States Proposal Support
    
    Figured it was time I signed in.  I've been reading this file for some
    time and find it filled with wonderful stories and advice.
    
    Currently we have:
    inside - 
    
    	7 keets                                                  
    	12 finches (2 zebras on eggs, 2 java rice, 2 black hooded nuns, 
    		    2 Gouldian, 2 red weavers, and 2 orange weavers)
    	2 cockatiels
    	8 love birds (2 peach faced, 2 black masked, 2 blue masked, and
		      2 Dutch Blue sitting on 6 eggs)
   outside aviary -
    
     	3 peacocks
    	8 doves (4 white, 2 pied, 2 ring neck)
    	2 button quail
    	8 Silver phesants
    	
    It gets pretty noisy in the mornings, but we love it.  The household
    also contains 2 cats and a 5 month old Akita.  Quite the zoo.
    
    Cindy

    Name: Mary Mistovich
    Node: CARTUN::Mistovich
    Loc:  MRO3
    
    I recently became a bird-owner when I rescued a lonely looking Lutino
    cockatiel (I think a male) from a Woolworths.  His name is Saki and he
    is totally untame.  I can't handle him without gloves and when I do
    have to hold him he screams so loudly that I figure my neighbors must
    think I'm ripping his wings off!!  But he likes to roam around my
    living room in the evenings.  Every so often he gets to feeling wild
    and flies around whistling.  And he's usually good about putting
    himself to bed and recently started letting me prod him to bed when
    he's climbing around the outside of his cage.  That's the first time
    he's allowed me to touch him!
    
    To keep him from getting lonely, I got a young female grey, named
    Sushi.  I picked her out because, although she wasn't the flashiest,
    she seemed the sweetest and most tameable.  I was hoping she would help
    Saki to become less afraid of me.  She probably would be much tamer
    now, if it weren't for Saki's influence, but I don't mind.  I figure I
    have time.  With Sushi, going to bed is a game.  She climbs around and
    around the cage while I gently try to round her up.  Eventually, she
    seems to say "oh all right, if you insist."  Sushi will sit on my
    shoulder (when I can catch her!) and used to take a bit of appled from
    my hand.  Now she refuses the apple, and I suspect that is Saki's bad
    influence.  But hopefully over time they will both be more accepting.
    
    I also have at least 2 Zebra Finches, Mr. and Mrs. Minnever, which are 
    all Steve Desilets fault!  Steve advised me to give Sushi and Saki oyster 
    shells, so I stopped off in a Doctor's pet store to pick up the oyster 
    shells, which happened to be right next to the finches, who I also
    picked up :-)  That was just over a month ago.  I say at least 2 finches 
    because on Sunday I thought Mrs. Minnever was sick, but it turned out 
    she'd laid an egg.  Yesterday I got home from work and discovered she'd 
    laid another one.  Wonder what I'll find tonight?!?
    
    I also have 2 hamsters, Cumberbund and Sash, so my home is pretty
    interesting in the evenings, what with the hamsters rolling around in
    their plastic balls and the cockatiels hopping around playing with
    shoelaces and the Minnever's beeping and gurgling away.
    
    Mary

    I recently bought a pair of american budgies....Homer and Victoria.
    I think they are about 2-3 years old from the date on the leg bands.
    They acclimated to their new surroudings fairly well and know I would
    like to try and mate them...I think Homer is ready but Victoria doesn't
    like him close by. Anyway that's foder for another topic. 
    
    I am in the process of deciding on a parrot....not sure what I want
    yet....too many choices...
    
    Rachelle �elletete AKA Mrs �
    

    Well, I've barely come here and its already time to say goodby.  I
    learned a lot in the file and am grateful for the opportunity to have
    noted with you.  But, I got the tap this morning, so it's time to move
    on.
    
    

    Mary,
    
    I'll miss you and news of your feathered buddies.  *Very* best wishes
    on your adventure.
    
    Cindy
    

    Signing in again, after an absence of two and a half years on medical
    leave.  Still raising conures.  Have gotten down to just one pair of
    breeding blue-front Amazons from a larger collection (boy, has the
    house quieted down!).  Also now breeding pionus parrots, cockatiels,
    bourke's parakeets, and rosellas.  It's great to have the opportunity
    to be part of this conference again.  I'll dust off my manual and get
    caught up on moderator duties! I'm located in ZKO1-2, office number 
    C18.  Feel free to drop by if you are in the area.  It would be good
    to match some faces with names.  If you want to call me at home,
    pls. just be patient with the answering machine, which is *always*
    on.  I do return all calls, I promise.  /Linda

    My name is Sandy Dix and I live at the foot of the Rocky Mountains in
    Colorado Springs.  My boyfriend just bought a blue & gold macaw so I
    asked him if he would be interested in this conference.  The note below
    was entered by him.  I will be glad to pass any and all information
    back his way.  By the way, one thing he didn't mention is that the bird
    loves to french kiss!
    
    Sandy DIx
    SPECXN::DIX
    DTN 592-5081
    
Hello World! or at least that's what Sandy said I would be talking to. I am the
new owner of a beautiful 13 week old Blue and Gold Macaw. Sandy printed several
of the notes all of you have sent each other and I have enjoyed reading them.

I am interested in any information on crooked beaks!. My birds beak is off
center by a small bit. I have been told this is normal! and that it will correct
itself!. Is it? will it? please advise. His name is Winston. Also He loves to
make a mess by throwing his cage bedding on the floor. I have tried citrus fresh
and it stinks and pine shavings...boy does that stuff fly!. Any suggestions?
I'll be looking forward to hearing from you.


Tracy

    Hello,
    
    My wife and I just bought a 10 wk old Congo grey.  Our first bird.
    It's quite an adventure so far.  We live in Hudson MA.  I work in MKO1
    and my wife works is about to move to MRO.
    
    Rob and Tina Evers

    Howdy!
    
    I'm Bob Bell, have also been reading pet_birds for awhile and decided
    to get registered.  Currently we have a double yellow headed Amazon. 
    Have had various large and small birds in the past but due to a number
    of international relocations, have had to find homes for them.  Ollie
    is almost two years old and is the most "reliable" Amazon I have seen
    for gentleness.  He has NEVER left a mark, let alone drawn blood.  We
    live in Annapolis, MD with Ollie and Bernie, a 6 month old West
    Highland Terrier. 
    
    Bob

    Hi,
    
    I'm Mark Storm and I am new to this bird stuff.  'Santa' brought a
    baby parakeet for my 8 yr old daughter and 4 yr old son.  So far, the
    kids are crazy about "Zippy".  My daughter sets her alarm early so she
    can get up and play with it.  Zippy stays on her (or her brother's)
    shoulder most of the time they are around the house.
    
    We also have a black lab (a hunting dog).  She was very confused at
    first, but seems to be accepting Zippy now.
    
    Mark,
    

    Hello, My name is Tracy, and I am a owner of a 4 1/2 year old Blue
    Crown Amazon named Coco.  No, it wasn't my choice.  She had had one
    previous owner.  Unfortunately, I bought a lot of problems along with
    the good times.  But most of those problems are funny ones, and I'm
    looking forward to telling you all about them.  I don't have children,
    I have a parrot with a attitude. She beats up on dogs, and cats, and
    even attacked & verbally insulted my Father!  She was never taught to
    fly, so she doesn't do it very well.  (yes, I had her eyes checked.) 
    She just stinks at flying.  I guess you'll have to locate me in the
    notes to hear more.  Bye!
    
    Tracy G.  DEC Contract Security Officer, Hudson site.
    

            Howdy, I'm Joan and have been a bird lover since childhood, but never
    extravagant birds, just budgies.  Well, I wanted my kids to share in
    this wonderful experience I had as a youngster, so I decided to check
    out some of the small parrots.  A friend has a Green Wing and an
    Umbrella Cockatoo, so I thought I'd start with him.  He introduced me
    to the breeder he buys all his birds from, and I was totally hooked.  I
    have since adopted Chewey (Chewbaka), a Blue Crowned Conure, and on
    January 3rd, adopted a Mulluckan Cockatoo.  He/She (hasn't been sexed
    yet) was born on January 1st (a new years baby), and I'm hopeful
    he/she'll be home by May.  I see him/her two or three times a week to
    cuddle and feed, and can't wait to bring her home.

    I didn't know this notesfile was here. I'm glad I found it....

    Hope there's some activity here...

    Toodles......JPs

    Hello, 
    
    I just found this conference, after adopting a Cocktiel then buying 
    a Cherry Headed Conure, and a African Grey. Since I am very new to 
    Avian pets, I thought I better do some reading...And believe me
    my eyes hurt....But what a wonderful Joy it has been.
    
    I picked up Peatree from a person that was moving and didn't want 
    "to be bothered" anymore..And she is a delite!  For such a young
    bird, her personality is a joy...When my wife and I are at the
    breakfast bar, Peatree is there; And if we are eating she must 
    sample whatever food is avail.;  I am amazed at what she'll eat.
    We are very careful as to what she can gain access to.  She 
    does love toasted bagels w/ honey...  Peatree loves to "hang out"
    with our lab...Poor Majic...Wherever Majic is, there is Peatree.
    She seems to have adopted the dog, when he is laying down, Peatree
    is Preening him...I have seen the Trained hunting dog tolerate
    this small bird preening his muzzle.  
    
    Then there is Bob (Conure), we bought him from a family who was not sure
    what to do with him when they got him home...And Since Bob Aka the
    SLOB, is very much a Conure they sold him..Lucky for us...Bob is our
    guard bird, and general all around nut..He is about 13 months old
    and has a very good vocubulary...He says Peatree ( all day long ),
    says Majic,  pretty boy, quacks like a duck ( I trained him ), now I 
    don't why I did this. and he says "come 'er" or "come here", he 
    does this all the time. I do believe he feels his place is on
    someones shoulder...From what I have read Conures are POSSESIVE...
    and Bob is...to say the least...Pet the dog or Peatree before
    handling Bob and one gets a nip...
    
    Now the Grey, well we have paid for him/her; she is just out of the
    nest and still at the breeders home.  It's name is Abbott..or Abigale.
    Can't say much, except that "it" can really suck the food down.  I 
    just wonder how things will work out with Bob...
    
    Sorry for rambling...I guess it one way of saying..I LOVE THIS AVIAN 
    THING...
    
    and from what I know...I do feel that being called a "bird brain"
    is a compliment!
    
    Thanks for reading
    
    Jeff