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Conference oass::racers

Title:Racers and Racing
Notice:As long as it's not NASCAR or F1 or Drags...
Moderator:RHETT::BURDEN_D
Created:Tue Aug 08 1995
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:391
Total number of notes:4486

391.0. "MadMike goes SCCA Club Racing (AS)" by VMSNET::M_MACIOLEK (Four54 Camaro/Only way to fly) Mon Jun 02 1997 12:26

    I just bought a 1986 Camaro with the sole purpose of going SCCA
    club racing.  I'll detail what I do and ask specific questions in
    this note.  Follow along, or contribute or "help" me build this
    thing and we'll go racing....
    
    I got the camaro in Tampa florida saturday.  Currently it's a FI 
    V-6, 5 speed, steel roof, faded red, sport coupe.
    
    MadMike
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391.1VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyMon Jun 02 1997 12:3122
    I'm waiting on the rule book to see specifically what sort of things I
    can/need to do.  So far I've gutted the interior.
    The drivers front end is pushed in, which broke the headlight bezel.
    No biggie because i'm getting all the IROC junk to jazz the thing up.
    The hood is bent up like a pretzel.
    Structurally this thing looks good.
    
    I have a 305 I'm waiting on building.  I have the wrong heads, so those
    are for sale or will go on my 1979 camaro.
    
    I need to determine who to deal with on suspension stuff.
    
    I'm buying a prebent weld in cage from S&W racecars in Pennsylvania in
    July when I travel to new england for "vacation".
    
    That's about all for now, just waiting on the rules and getting ready
    for a swap meet (Super Chevy Show) this weekend, where I'll be a
    vendor.  Hopefully I'll sell enough stuff to pay for my house this
    month.  :^)
    
    MadMike
    
391.2PROXY::J_EVANSMon Jun 02 1997 12:568
    Hi Mike,
    
    Congrats...  You may want to wait for the rule book before making too
    many changes...  :-)  If problems are caught before you put a wheel on
    the track, you generally get your entrance fee back, but if you're on
    the track and find something illegal later, we keep the $$$.  :-)
    
    jim
391.3INTONE::BONAZZOLIMon Jun 02 1997 12:563
    Mike, what kind of competition license do you need for club racing?
    
    Rich
391.4VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyMon Jun 02 1997 14:0116
    I need to go to drivers school, and get a novice license.  Then you can
    step up to a regional license if you do ok.  Finally, you can get
    a national license.  I suppose each step cost more $$$$.  Also,
    the class I'm going racing is called American Sedan, which i believe
    is regional?  Maybe not, because I worked the national event last
    weekend and they had a bunch of AS cars there.
    
    I think I can get by with a regional license.
    
    re: rules, legality, etc...  my car will be 100% SAFE and 100% legal.
    I MAY use the rules to my advantage, i.e. compression ratio is 10.3
    max.... I'll be 10.25.  Weight is ~3200... I'll be 3205.
    I'm interested in stuff like, can I replace my windshield with lexan,
    since my current windshield is busted.... stuff like that
    
    MadMike
391.5VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyMon Jun 02 1997 14:065
    Oh ya, one "major" thing I want/need to do is change the rear drum
    brakes to disks.  Shouldn't be a big deal, nor should it be too
    expensive.
    
    MadMike
391.6PROXY::J_EVANSTue Jun 03 1997 13:3411
    Hope you like to do body work after an event. AS is probably second
    only to Sports Rambo Ford (formerly SR...) when it comes to banging
    bodies together...  :-)
    
    A couple of years ago we had the WALL brothers at NHIS banging
    each other for many laps. Johnny said the worst part wasn't the
    stewards, wasn't his dad, but his MOTHER!!! He said he DID have a ball
    though....
    
    jim
    
391.7The krylon touch....VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyTue Jun 03 1997 14:065
    I towed the thing home from tampa no sweat.  my sister stuffed the
    back end into a concrete wall unloading it off the trailer in my
    yard.  Do I like to do bodywork?  Sorta...
    
    IT can't be worse than the nascar guys.  
391.8Dot the "t" and cross the "I"34675::BLUNTWed Jun 04 1997 23:3013
    
    Mike, you would probably be best off if you can find a notoriously
    agressive inspector who can give you ideas what to do and not to do
    before you try the first run-thru at inspection.  Something that our
    local SCCA inspection "steward" (or whatever the heck ya call 'em,
    SCCA's got more stewards than most railroads ever did;-) just found out
    for himself; you need to *maintain* your fire bottles.  Apparently the
    mechanism that performs as the release gets corroded fairly easily, and
    that corrosion causes the bottle to be about worthless.  Fortunately
    he noticed this when his Sports 2K was in a show and someone pulled
    the release pin, slammed the button and the bottle didn't "fire."
    
    bob
391.9VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyThu Jun 05 1997 00:5823
    I worked tech last weekend at Road Atlanta, plus I got pretty close
    to the Chief Scrutineer for the SE region....
    The fellow said:  "If it ISN'T mentioned, consider it prohibited".
    or something like that.  It was suggested I work tech before going
    off and building something, which was a good idea.  I KNOW I wanted
    A/Sedan...  
    
    The rules came today.  Some things I woulda done are prohibited, for
    example, having my PCV system vented into my collector.  Prohibited.
    No gear drive.  I apparently can't "gut" my interior sheet metal (like
    cut tabs off and stuff).  I can gut the door.
    
    re: the lexan...  I am going to do this, unless told it's not legal.
    The rules mention:  WINDOWS, clean and clear.  WINDOW.  Not "glass".
    Lexan, to me... is a safety issue.  (not only is it lighter than glass)
    but I can hit it with a hammer and it won't break.  That is a safety
    issue, not a performance advantage.  Also, it'll be braced properly.
    
    I'm digging up some other questions that I'll need to itemize, but
    right now I'm in research mode, "scrutineer" mode, and figure out
    where to go next.  Like maybe finish my cavalier and Z/28.
    
    MadMike
391.10WRKSYS::FRANTZDr. AwkwardThu Jun 05 1997 12:5613
    > "If it ISN'T mentioned, consider it prohibited".
    
    I seem to recall the GCR states that explicitly.
    
    Re. windshield material:  I'm surprised the A/Sedan rules don't deal
    with that.  But see above...
    
    Been a while since I was involved in SCCA racing, so many things could
    have changed, too.  Used to be, you needed both the GCR and the
    specific category rules to get everything sorted out.
    
    Karl