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42.1 | Solid Dates? | DENVER::MALKOSKI | | Mon Oct 28 1991 16:25 | 18 |
| This is interesting. There are at least three dates (Detroit, Denver,
and NY) where there is some doubt as to "where" the race will be run,
and then there is Cleveland. I was talking to some folks the other day
and it looks like Roger Penske got skanked on Cleveland. It's one of
his tracks and he is notorious for paying small purses - $400K in 91.
New Hampshire came along and offered $800K, which seems like the going
rate for purses these days, and got the date. There is still little
info at this time as to where the Denver race will be held. It's clear
that it will NOT be in the same downtown venue used for the first two
runnings. There's even some talk that there will be another temporary
circuit for 92, and then there will be a purpose built track used in
the area. I'll believe it when I see it. (None of the existing local
circuits could handle an Indy car race.) And where will they run the
NYC event? Battery Park was mentioned, but I find that hard to believe.
Any more info on these issues?
Paul
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42.2 | | CRASHR::JILLY | COSROCS -- In Thrust We Trust | Tue Oct 29 1991 07:48 | 10 |
| When I was last in NYC, early 1989, Battery Park was undergoing a large change.
There was Battery Park City being constructed as well as a large American
Express building (possible world headquarters). I could very well see a street
course being constucted. The big problem as we all know is getting the fans
in and out of the area. It is well served by NYC Subway lines, Staten Island
Ferry, and PATH trains from NJ. Also it is easy to get there by bus. As long
as they make it fairly easy to get to and/or have a special park and ride
deal it shouldn't be too bad.
Jilly who_spent_7_years_pounding_the_pavement_of_Manhattan_streets
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42.3 | I love NY | NYTP20::VIN | It's good work if you can get it | Tue Oct 29 1991 12:16 | 18 |
| The idea of a CART race in lower Manhattan is sort of weird to me...I can see it
now close the area up on a Friday for qualifying and practice...I'm sure
that one will fly. Saturday and Sunday the place is pretty deserted thought.
I would also imagine that alot of people would be "working" over that weekend,
possibly reducing paid attendance?. I 've gone the the Meadowlands race a
couple of times and even thought the course is pretty weak I feel some
loyalty to the race and circuit since one of my best friends did the
paving for the course as it stands... you might remember Mario's line
"I wouldn't let this guy pave my driveway" (read bumpy) after the switch
to the present "modified" oval layout. So needless to say I'm not
very unhappy when he breaks...Speaking of Andrettis I went to the race in
their hometown and boy what a difference in venues...I mean free parking,
cheap beer at the track and they even let you bring in your own...at
the Meadowlands parking $7 beer $$$$ and the dreaded cavity search for
unauthorized beverages...
Vin
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42.4 | | PSW::WINALSKI | Careful with that VAX, Eugene | Wed Oct 30 1991 18:53 | 6 |
| I heard that they were originally planning on have the course go through
the Times Square vicinity, but they later decided not to put CART before the
whores......
--PSW
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42.5 | The worst roads I've ever seen | CURRNT::PAGED | Worlds Boredest Man | Thu Oct 31 1991 09:19 | 3 |
| A CART race in NYC would need *a lot* of work to the roads, don't
you think ? Could Dinkins afford that ? But then again it would be
in NYC's interest to allow CART pay for the work 8-)
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42.6 | | HOPS::M_BLESSING | Mike Blessing, CSC/CS VMS Support | Fri Nov 08 1991 16:24 | 7 |
| At the CART meeting in Houston this week, they voted to return Cleveland
to the schedule in 1993. I think Roger promised a bigger purse. They also
decided that if any openings should occur in 1992 (still a fair possibility),
that Cleveland would be the 'first alternate' location.
Tony George's proposal for a new governing organization was also discussed,
but no decisions were reached.
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42.7 | CART & F1 | DENVER::MALKOSKI | | Fri Dec 13 1991 09:42 | 25 |
| Here in Denver, there has been very little news regarding the 1992 CART
event. Much talk was heard after last summer's event. They will NOT
have the race in 1992 at the existing site. The new mayor considers the
downtown site too much of a hassle for too many folks. However, he did
not want to see the race moved to the suburbs. There are two sites
considered to be most viable - one near downtown and another in the
southeast burbs. If I had too bet, I think there will not be an event
here in 92 (and Cleveland will have its race). BTW, I think Cleveland
has done a good job over the years presenting their event. They were
just way too cheap on the purses. But they've fixed that.
On another subject. Have any noters seen the article in the current
issue of ROAD & TRACK describing the differences between F! and CART?
The magazines tech editor, who is an engineer, does an excellent job
comparing and contrasting these two formulae. He quotes Teddy Meyer
extensively. Teddy points out that the biggest difference weight - an
Indy car weighs 1550 pounds to an F1's 1114 pounds. Horsepower and
aerodynamics about equal, though the rules governing each are very
different. Meyer figures that a 3.5L engine rule would at least triple
the engine budget for each CART team! Anyway, for you tech heads out
there, the author includes a terrific chart comparing the two forms.
Pretty nifty.
Paul
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42.8 | Schedule changes | HOPS::M_BLESSING | Mike Blessing, CSC/CS VMS Support | Sat Jan 25 1992 12:08 | 4 |
| CART announced yesterday that the Denver and NYC races have been
cancelled for 1992. Cleveland is back on the schedule, on August 9.
Mike
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42.9 | More changes? | HOPS::M_BLESSING | Mike Blessing, CSC/CS VMS Support | Sat Jan 25 1992 12:17 | 9 |
| After entering the previous note, I went back and looked at the
original 1992 schedule. It looks like Elkhart Lake had been scheduled
for August 9. Our paper didn't say anything about Elkhart Lake also
being rescheduled, although it would make sense travel-wise to go from
Michigan -> Cleveland -> Elkart Lake -> Vancouver. Unless someone
else gets better news coverage of racing than we do, we may have to
wait for next week's Auto Week to get the rest of the story.
Mike
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