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Conference oass::babynames

Title:A list of All the BABYNAMES (shadow copy)
Notice:BABYNAMES is now on-line and writable! Enjoy...
Moderator:OASS::BURDEN_D
Created:Tue Feb 13 1996
Last Modified:Fri May 30 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:996
Total number of notes:7139

785.0. "Using Grandpa's name...." by TYSON::DORMAN () Mon Apr 20 1992 18:16

Hi!

My wife and I have started a tradition of using a much loved/important/
significant relatives name as the middle name for our children.  We have
a girl and a boy and are expecting our third in july and would like to 
continue the tradition.  The problem is we've run out of names that we
like or can agree upon, except maybe for one.

We think we would like to use my father-in-laws' name.  However, there
are three (probably) minor issues I would truly appreciate some input on.
Grandpa's name is Holley.  The first thing is, I have never seen this name
spelled this way (with an "e") before.  Has anyone seen this spelling?  Is
it in any Babyname books?  The second issue is is that we have a strong
suspicion that we're having a girl.  It's actually cool with Grandpa if we
use his name for his granddaughter but I wonder if anyone has run into the
situation where a child of one gender was named after a relative of the 
opposite gender.  Everyone involved in this is comfortable with this idea
but I am just curios as to the commonality of such a thing.  The third
issue is simply that I have never seen this name (Holley or Holly) listed
as a boys name.  It's always in the girls section in Babyname books.  Has 
anyone seen or heard of it's use for a boy?

Everyone loves Grandpa so much that these questions are so much less 
important than the importance of honoring him but it would be interesting
to have input on this.

Thanks
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785.1SENIOR::JANDROWThe Green-Eyed LadyMon Apr 20 1992 21:5415
    
    
    I love the name Holly, no matter how you spell it.  I think that if you
    have a girl, and name her Holley, that she will feel proud to be named
    a fter someone you obviously care very deeply about.  I admit, I have
    never seen Holley as a boy's name, but then again, so many names are
    "sexless".  If you do have a boy, you have to think of his future and
    what he'd go thru with a rather "female" name.  What about using it as
    a middle name for a boy?
    
    Just my opinion.
    
    -raquel
    
    
785.2Go for it - honor Grandpa!CIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornTue Apr 21 1992 09:339
    Seeing as it is being used as a middle name (as the base note states),
    I see no problem with it.
    
    I HAVE seen "Holley" used as a male name, but not exactly under the
    best of examples...it was the name of the computer in the first few
    seasons of "Red Dwarf", a British sci-fi-comedy.  (In later seasons,
    Holley becomes a girl).  The show is fantastic, but...
    
    K.C.
785.3Similar...DECK::MEHRINGTue Apr 21 1992 15:427
    In a mothers' group I participated in this summer, there was one little
    boy named "Hollis" (after his father), but that's as close as I've
    heard. I agree that it would probably be better as a middle name if
    it's a boy, but love it as a first name for a girl.
    
    Good luck,
    -Cori
785.4Girls with boys' names.SWAM1::THOMPSOND_SHTue Apr 21 1992 16:1616
    Hi,
    
    I was named after my uncle; my middle name's Len, which is a masculine
    name.  I always thought it was kind of neat, because it sounds
    "feminine" (like Holley does), yet it's spelled differently than Lynn
     not just because it was trendy to change the spelling, but rather to honor a
    a relative. 
    
    I also knew a lady who's name was James Lois.  After three girls, her
    father insisted on calling the next child James.  Wouldn't you know,
    James turned out to be a girl!  She goes by Lois, and whereas I don't
    know if she suffered any trauma as a child, she seems very unperturbed
    by her "masculine" name.  Perhaps it's easier for girls with masculine
    names than vise versa? At any rate, Holley sounds like a dandy choice!
    
    /slt
785.5Just a late-in-the-day observationCIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornTue Apr 21 1992 17:3024
    I suppose that it is easier for a girl to have a masculine name than
    vice versa.
    
    For instance - lots of nicknames for girls have definite masculine
    backings (no spelling nits, please - I'm making a point):
    
    Danielle - Danny
    Alexandra - Alex
    Michelle - Mitch or Mick
    Barbara - Bobby
    Joanne - Joe
    Stephanie - Stevie
    
    etc., etc., etc.
    
    But, if a boy is given a feminine sounding name, more often than not he
    will be called "Sissy" or "Girly"...in 2nd grade I knew a boy named
    Christopher (nice, masculine name, right?), but his mother called him
    "Chrissy", and he was a CONSTANT target for teasing.
    
    But, middle names aren't often even noticed by people.  
    
    K.C.
    
785.6HOLLEY FOR A GIRL!!!ESOA12::WOODARDMon Jun 01 1992 16:4115
    Hi -
    
    I hope this isn't too late but my second cousin Ashley was named after
    her grandfather Ashley.  I personally feel that if you had a girl and
    named her Holley after the grandfather I think she would feel a special
    connection to him.  I also perfer the spelling Holley opposed to the
    plain Holly.
    
    But, for a boy, I think Hollis sounds better than Holley.  I think
    boy's have a harder time dealing with girl sounding names than vise
    versa.
    
    Just my opinion.....
    
    Karen
785.7I like Holley for bothVAXUUM::FONTAINEThu Jun 18 1992 15:4213
    
    
    My middle name is Dean, after my Great-grandmothers maiden name.  I
    have always liked it.  It is a name that can be male or female.
    
    About Hollis, I've always liked that name, I also know a woman named
    Hollis here at work!
                                        
    I vote Holley for a Girl and Holley as a middle name for a boy.
    Of course this comes from someone who's boys have different middle names, 
    one is Hazen and the other is Gaetan.
    
    Nancy
785.8A slight digression, but...SELL3::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornThu Jun 18 1992 16:005
    A few weeks ago I met a most charming, wonderful elderly gentleman (he
    had turned 89 just days before I met him) named Hazen.  I was
    fascinated by the name, and by the man.
    
    K.C.
785.9I like it alotVAXUUM::FONTAINEThu Jun 18 1992 16:2812
    
    
    I knew two people in high school with the name, one was a student and
    the other was a teacher (the teacher had it as a middle name) and I
    really liked the name too.  I think it's Scottish.
    
    I wanted to use it as a first name, but my husband was too skittish
    about that.  He's a bit more conventional about names than I am.
    My kids are Andrew Gaetan Fontaine and Samuel Hazen Fontaine. He picked
    the first names and I picked the middle ones.
    
    Nancy
785.10Sarah Holley is Born!TYSON::DORMANWed Jul 22 1992 15:0019
Hello!

I am pleased and proud to announce that...


	Sarah Holley Dorman


was born on July 19, 1992 at 7:11 am (she should
play the Lottery).  7 lbs. 2 oz., 20 inches.

Mother and daughter are doing fine!

Thanks to all of you who responded to this note to
help Mom and Dad in using Grandpa's name.  Your input
was greatly appreciated.


Thanks, Tom
785.11SENIOR::JANDROWThe Green-Eyed LadyWed Jul 22 1992 15:468
    
    Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    -raq
    
    
785.12Same Name Different SexHOCUS::PERETZSMon Dec 21 1992 14:343
    Hope this is not too late to get read, but for those of us who watch
    Murphy Brown, after weeks of TV-Land discussion she named her son Avery
    and it was her MOTHER's name!