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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

999.0. "taxes on gift" by GRANPA::JHAGERTY () Fri Apr 19 1996 17:16

    Not sure if this belongs here, but I'll ask.
    
    I recently ran the Boston Marathon on  behalf of a good friend.
    I raised several thousand dollars and  am now having the checks
    sent to me. I want every dime to go to the family of my friend
    who passed away last week. I set up an account at my local bank
    and will  deposit the checks as they come in. At the end, I will 
    write one big check from these deposits and present the check to
    his widow and let her do as she pleases.
    
    Whats the tax issues should I watch for? Is there a better way?
    
    thanks
    
    John
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999.1No problem as long as it doesn't get too largeSSDEVO::RMCLEANFri Apr 19 1996 17:184
  there should be none as long as the check you give her is less than $10K.
It probably would have been better to set the account up in her name and
then each of the gifts would have been to her and no tax as long as an
individual gift was not more than $10k.
999.22155::michaudJeff Michaud - ObjectBrokerFri Apr 19 1996 17:2814
	One thing you should watch out for is interest/dividends earned
	while that money sits in an account under you SSN (of course
	for the amount of time the account will be open the tax liability
	on the interest should be tiny tiny).

	Xref:

    21  EPIK::FINNERTY       24-JAN-1992     5  20'th Century Giftrust
   206  LANDO::OBRIEN        19-MAY-1992     5  Gifts to Minors
   678  GRILLA::LALIBERTE     9-FEB-1994     6  TRANSFERRING ASSETS/GIFTS/TAXES, etc.
   809  HELIX::SPIELMAN      13-DEC-1994     3  Gift Tax - giving near year end
   814  POWDML::DLANE         3-JAN-1995     7  Tax ? on Gift Stocks
   857  NODEX::CLBMUD::mcgre  2-MAY-1995     2  Gift to parents and tax write off
   978  AIAG::MOORE          15-FEB-1996     2  Investment Question - Uniform Gift/Transfers to Minors...
999.3threshhold for 1099...NOTAPC::LEVYMon Apr 22 1996 15:438
    re: .2
    
    >	One thing you should watch out for is interest/dividends earned
    >	while that money sits in an account under you SSN (of course
    >	for the amount of time the account will be open the tax liability
    >	on the interest should be tiny tiny).
    
    If it's less than $10, no 1099-INT will be reported (per IRS rules).
999.410992155::michaudJeff Michaud - ObjectBrokerMon Apr 22 1996 16:1212
> If it's less than $10, no 1099-INT will be reported (per IRS rules).

	However if you have other accounts at the same instituion also under
	the same taxpayer id (ie. SSN), you'll only get a single 1099
	for the total interest from *all* your accounts (so unless your
	total interest is less less than $10 ...).

	Also out of curiosity, just because one doesn't receive a 1099,
	is the interest non-taxable?  My guess is that as long as your
	total interest income exceeds the limit that requires you to
	file schedule B, that you would still be required to enter the
	that interest on the schedule ... (?)
999.5MANANA::uncagd.zko.dec.com::CLARKLee Clark,DTN 381-0422,TeamLinksTue Apr 23 1996 11:4720
>         Also out of curiosity, just because one doesn't receive a 1099,
>         is the interest non-taxable?  My guess is that as long as your
>         total interest income exceeds the limit that requires you to
>         file schedule B, that you would still be required to enter the
>         that interest on the schedule ... (?)

You must be new around these parts :^)  Let's see, the IRS determines that 
somehow they messed up and they owe you some money from 2 years ago. They 
send you a check for that money, plus some absurd amount of interest (@ 
18%?). Then they want you to pay tax on that interest, and so, probably, 
does the state you live in (MA will even tax the interest at 12% rather than 
6% because it's not from a MA bank ;^).

I think the $10 limit applies only to the paperwork required of your bank: 
less than $10, they don't have to go to the trouble of summarizing your 
yearly interest and reporting that number to you. I'd imagine they still 
report it to the IRS (a guess).

I can't imagine the IRS (or your state) *ever* saying that actual income (as 
opposed to money transferred from one entity to another) is non-taxable.
999.6interest still taxable, but not some rental incomeNOTAPC::LEVYTue Apr 23 1996 13:4527
re: .5
    
>I think the $10 limit applies only to the paperwork required of your bank: 
    
    Correct.
    
>less than $10, they don't have to go to the trouble of summarizing your 
>yearly interest and reporting that number to you. I'd imagine they still 
>report it to the IRS (a guess).

    Nope. The whole point of the threshhold is to minimize reporting
    requirements.
    
>I can't imagine the IRS (or your state) *ever* saying that actual income (as 
>opposed to money transferred from one entity to another) is non-taxable.

    I didn't say it wasn't taxable; only that no 1099-INT is filed.
    
    On imagining non-taxable income:
    
    In point of fact, rental income from renting your principal (or
    secondary) residence, IF THE TOTAL PERIOD RENTED FOR THE YEAR IS 14
    DAYS OR FEWER, is NON-taxable.
    
    So all those Georgians renting out space during the Summer Games get
    some tax-free income (Fed-wise) this year.