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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

929.0. "MUTUAL FUND$ FOR DUMMIE$" by MPOS01::ZWIRTZ (IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT) Wed Oct 18 1995 22:50

    Has anyone bought or read this book yet? I think its great. I'm rather
    a novice, but want to find out where to put my money, and don't trust
    brokers, or financial planners that much because of possible conflicts
    of interest. This book has confirmed a lot of that thinking, and given
    me the direction and confidence to make ny own moves now. I also want
    to thank all the noters in this file for your valuable advice. I have
    been a long time reader of this notesfile, and have learned lots here.
    
    
    Conrad
    
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929.1DELNI::SHOOKReport Redundancy OftenThu Oct 19 1995 00:034
    i haven't read it yet, but it's on the list. another good book that got
    me on the right investment road is "the wealthy barber." 
    
    
929.2MSBCS::HURLEYThu Oct 19 1995 20:582
    I 2nd the wealthy barber book. I wish I had a barber like that 10
    years ago.. :-). 
929.3Wealthy Barber is great!SEND::SEELEYFri Oct 20 1995 14:199
    I'll 3rd The Wealthy Barber!!  It's an excellent book, and also
    an EASY READ with good stories and humor.
    
    My brother gave copies to me and my sister. 
    
    A perfect beginner book.
    
    Lauren
    
929.4Authors ???BIGQ::LAFORTEMon Oct 23 1995 09:085
    
    
      Who is the author/s of "The wealthy Barber"  ??
    
      Thanks,  Al
929.5The wealthy barberWMODEV::GERARDI_BMon Oct 23 1995 09:338
    "The Wealthy Barber, everyone's common-sense guide to becoming
    finanically independant."
    
    by David Chilton
    
    $12.95
    
    A great book, I might add.
929.6RE: BasenoteIVOSS1::VILLALOBO_GISat Nov 04 1995 11:052
    I looked over Mutual Fund for Dummies.  It looks good.  It has good
    examples of asset allocation strategies and funds to pick. 
929.7HELIX::SONTAKKEMon Nov 20 1995 16:4411
    This is as good as a topic as any to ask a dumb question!
    
    I got into couple of funds rather late this year [Aug/Sep].  Shouldn't
    I switch to money market fund just the day before the distribution and
    get back in day after?  This is a Noload fund.  I don't think I will
    have much realized gain by selling but would have substantial tax
    penalty when the fund makes its distributition.
    
    Does this make sense?
    
    - Vikas
929.8Let it ride24486::WINKLEMANWinkleaustinmanTue Nov 21 1995 10:0720
re: .7
        I think the answer is "no".  Here are three reasons.

        First, funds usually do not like to have money switched
around so abruptly.  Some funds have a rule that if you sell
within six months of buying, you can't get back in for some
period of time.  I'm going from memory, so check your prospectus
for details.

        Second, depending on the fund objectives, it might actually
result in higher tax liability.  Consider this: by selling a growth
fund, you'll be realizing a short-term capital gain (I hope) on your
shares, whereas if you held and received the distribution, the
distribution might be classified as a long-term captial gain instead.

        Third, by selling, and then buying again, you run the risk
of missing an increase.  If the distribution date is the beginning
of the month, you stand a higher chance of missing a gain.

-Austin
929.9call the fund for more infoSTOWOA::BERSONTue Nov 21 1995 13:0819
    Whether you should sell or not cannot be determined until you have more
    information.  .8 has provided you with some excellent reasons for not
    selling.  Before deciding, call the fund and get an idea of the amount
    they estimate will be distributed.  This is not foolproof, if you
    remember the Magellan fiasco last year.  If they have an answer, they
    should be able to break out the short term gains from the capital
    gains.  
    
    Also ask what the minimum is to keep the account open.  That can be
    substantially less than the minimum for opening the account.  If you do
    decide to sell, make a decision on whether you will go back in, say
    after 30 days, and stick to that decision.  (If you are looking at a
    short term loss, I believe there are wash rules that require that you
    wait 31 days, or you lose the deduction). I did what you are talking
    about last year.  But my only mistake was that I got cold feet on
    getting back in the fund.  1995 was not a great year for sitting on the
    sidelines.
    
    Bob
929.10HELIX::SONTAKKETue Nov 21 1995 15:084
    I was thinking of getting back immediately after the distribution i.e.
    be out of the fund for couple of days only.
    
    - Vikas
929.11wash-sale rulesVSSCAD::SIGELTue Nov 21 1995 15:539
Re .10

>    I was thinking of getting back immediately after the distribution i.e.
>    be out of the fund for couple of days only.

In that case I would think that you'd be covered by the wash sale rules.
Exactly how they apply in this case -- how you calculate your new basis
after the sale and repurchase, and what the other gotchas might be --
I'm afraid I don't know.
929.12no wash sale hereNOTAPC::LEVYWed Nov 22 1995 15:324
    re:.11
    
    .7 states the sale would result in a gain, so the wash sale rules don't
    apply.