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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

663.0. "1099-OID (Original Issue Discount)" by NODEX::POLIKOFF (Arnie Polikoff MRO1-3/K16 Office 32503 297-2313) Fri Jan 21 1994 09:29

	I got a form 1099-OID and in box 1 titled Original Issue 
Discount for 1993 is the amount $234.00

	On the back of the form it explains what the form is but being 
an injuneer and not an accountant or lawyer, I don't quite understand 
it.

	Why do I have to pay tax on money I did not receive? I can't 
cash in the zero coupon bond until 2001. Why can't I pay the tax on all 
the interest in 2001?

	What does happen in the year 2001 when I get the $6000.00 face 
value? Do I pay taxes on that money again?

			Arnie

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663.1Tax Due on Unpaid InterestI18N::GLANTZFri Jan 21 1994 09:4511
    Sorry, the IRS considers the interest you didn't get paid in 1993 on a
    zero cooupon bond as "constructively" received by you.  You have to pay
    taxes on this imputed interest every year until the bond matures.  At
    that point, no, you don't owe tax on the monster "gain" between the
    redemption price and your purchase price.
    
    I could attempt to explain the government's rationale, but why bother
    -- those are the regulations.
    
    Sorry you got caught in this situation.  Because of this tax rule, most
    people put zeroes in tax-deferred accounts, such as IRAs.
663.2Don't you love'm at tax time!?USCTR1::BJORGENSENFri Jan 21 1994 12:075
    My father-in-law wanted to give my daughter zero coupon bonds at the
    time of her birth - I asked for the cash instead!   You have now
    experienced the beauty of zero coupons!
    
    The goernment put the plug on zero coupons a while back...
663.3zeros and taxable interestNOODLE::DEMERSTue Jan 02 1996 08:5418
Each of my daughters has a ZCB in their name.  When first purchased, I
calculated the yearly interest based on the -very- complex formula that the IRS
supplies it the "OID" pamphlet that they publish.  The interest starts out slow
and then gets larger over the years.  In my case, it stays well below the
unearned interest threshhold for the kids for the bulk of the bond's existence.
However, towards the end, it does go over $500/year.  Is the unearned interest
limit still  $500 for under 14?  If so, will they have to file when it goes
above?

If the rate wasn't so attractive, I would be kicking myself now for getting
something so complicated.

Would the IRS' hotline know how to handle this?


tnx

Chris
663.4three zeros escaped the imputed interest taxASDG::HORTONpaving the info highwayWed Jan 03 1996 16:1916
    
    
    There are a few bonds that were issued in the early 1980s that
    slipped through a temporary IRS loophole where the holder does
    NOT have to report the imputed interest year-by-year:
    
       GMAC zr2012
       GMAC zr2015
       SeaRiver Maritime (Exxon subsidiary) zr2012
    
    The first two are listed every day in the WSJ commercial bond section.
    I haven't seen the Exxon zero listed, but any bond broker can quote it
    for you.  Try Charlie Cox at Paine Webber in Boston.
    
    -Jerry