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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

561.0. "Redemption of EE Savings Bonds (problem)" by TLE::EKLUND (Always smiling on the inside!) Tue Aug 31 1993 17:56

    	While not directly related to investing, this may be a good forum
    for the following question.  My son recently attempted to cash a
    US Savings Bond at a local Savings Bank.  They would not cash the
    bond because he did not have an account there.  I went back with
    him and they cashed the bond for him, but not without rather a
    certain amount of fuss.  They claimed that they were NOT obligated
    to cash the Savings Bond, even with "proper identification" because
    they might get stuck for the amount (stolen bond, etc.).
    
    	Now, this particular Bank DOES cash such bonds (is an "agent"),
    but apparently only for its customers with accounts.
    
    	My question is this: are such banks who act as paying agents
    REQUIRED to cash US Savings Bonds upon request when presented with
    proper identification?  I checked the pamphlet and the bond itself,
    and there are far too many uses of the word "may" for my liking...
    If they are not REQUIRED to do so, I will encourage whoever will listen
    to NOT purchase these in the future.
    
    	If they ARE required to redeem such bonds (under $1000., which is
    a magic number, by the way), how can I a) prove this to them and
    b) cause them more inconvenience than they caused me?  In other words,
    what is the most effective way to complain?  You can be sure that I
    have recorded the Assistant Manager's name who "served" us.
    
    Still smiling, but not one to let such treatment go unnoticed...
    
    Dave Eklund
    
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561.1All Banks Not AlikeI18N::GLANTZWed Sep 01 1993 15:054
    I don't know the official answer, but I do know from recent actual
    experience that both Concord Cooperative and Boston Federal will give
    you instant cash for EE bonds, whether you have an account with them or
    not.
561.2Banks need not redeem US Savings BondsTLE::EKLUNDAlways smiling on the inside!Thu Sep 02 1993 14:5210
    	The "official" answer from the Treasury Department in
    Massachusetts is that there is NO requirement that an agent
    redeem a bond "on request".  Banks who redeem them set their
    own requirements (in addition to the federal identification
    requirement), and may require that the customer have an
    account there.  Grr.  My response to that is simplicity
    itself - I'll put my money elsewhere.
    
    Dave Eklund
    
561.3SDSVAX::SWEENEYKeep back 200 feetThu Sep 02 1993 20:452
    So is there anywhere where a matured United States Savings Bond can be
    paid "on demand"?
561.4Savings Bonds= cash at Fed reserve banksFREEBE::NEARYBob NearyFri Sep 03 1993 12:185
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    I would assume that it is payable on demand at the Fed Reserve Banks.
    In Boston it's near the South station tunnel. I've conducted business
    there and they've been real nice to me.
561.5TLE::EKLUNDAlways smiling on the inside!Fri Sep 03 1993 14:4613
    	Yes, Federal Reserve Banks will cash them (but there are
    special procedures for over $1000.00, and I don't recall
    whether you can get the money immediately, even at the FRB).
    I seem to recall that if the bond is over $1000.00 in value,
    the standard procedure is to mail it to the Feds for
    redemption (or take it to the Federal Reserve Bank).  BTW,
    the woman at the Treasury Department was very polite when
    I expressed my opinion about not ever buying them again -
    she merely said that that's a decision that I would have to
    make.  Not a bad response, under the circumstances...
    
    Dave Eklund