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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
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533.0. "Total Return for Bonds = ?" by I18N::GLANTZ () Mon Jul 19 1993 23:23

Prof. Albert Fredman of Cal State U. is paraphrased in the 8/15/93 issue of
"Bottom Line" as follows: 

The interest rate on bonds is unpredictable -- no matter what the coupon says.
REASON: To get the coupon yield, all interest must be reinvested at the same 
rate.  If this is not possible, the bond's total return will be lower than 
what the coupon says.  EXAMPLE:  A 30-yr. Treasury bond with an 8% coupon 
yields 8% for the full 30-year term only if each interest payment is 
immediately reinvested at 8%.  But if payments are reinvested at 4%, the 
bond's return drops to 5.8%.

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What am I missing here?  Is it correct to define "total return" to include the 
reinvestment rate?
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533.1The aye's have itNOVA::FINNERTYSell high, buy lowTue Jul 20 1993 09:4413
    
    re: is it correct?
    
        yes/no.  consider the comparison with a zero coupon bond yielding the
    	same face amount.  there is no re-investment of dividends because
    	there are no interim dividends; so for ordinary bonds with regular
        interest payments what the Prof said is true, but for zeroes it is
    	not true.
    
    	on the other hand, the return is still a _nominal_ 8% return - the
    	future inflation rate unknowable; so the _real_ interest earned on
    	any bond (other than a bond indexed to inflation) is unknowable.