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304.1 | The "dart" method | TLE::JBISHOP | | Tue Nov 03 1992 13:39 | 17 |
| Figure out how many years you want to take to liquidate, call it N.
In each year of the N, sell enough stock to net the appropriate
fraction of the current value of the portfolio by this method:
1 Pick a stock at random (draw from a hat?).
2 Sell it (or a fraction up to 1/Nth).
Iterate 1 and 2 if required.
This gets you out, and requires no analysis. The hat-drawing could
even be a big event at a fancy dinner, to bring in more money!
E.g., for N=4: sell 1/4 the first year, 1/3rd the second, 1/2 the third
and all the rest on the fourth year.
-John Bishop
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304.2 | a few thoughts about Blue chips | VIZUAL::FINNERTY | Sell high, buy low | Tue Nov 03 1992 14:40 | 29 |
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You have a large portfolio of blue chips. The first thing I'd do is to
sort out exactly what this portfolio consists of; specifically, I'd
separate blue chips into 2 piles: Moderate-but-Steady-Growers
("Stalwarts") and Cyclicals. Any blue chip that has less than a 10%
earnings growth/year (long term) I'd probably prune first.
For the steady growers, calculate (LongTermEarningsGrowth% + Div%) /
Projected_P/E_Ratio; that is, take the earnings growth plus the dividend
divided by the P/E ratio, the latter preferrably based on a good
estimate of future earnings (you could use a good advisor here).
Sell those with a value < 1.0 sooner rather than later. Hold anything
that is > 1.5. You might even invest more if >2.0, but I'll bet you
won't find any of these at the moment. This assumes that the basic
story behind the company is still sound (e.g. no pending legislation
with unbounded liability, etc.) (Method courtesy of Peter Lynch)
For the cyclicals "timing is everything", so you'd better get yourself
an advisor with a good track record on trading the specific industries
that you're holding. You need some kind of knowledge 'edge' to trade
cyclicals profitably. Lacking that (and with a portfolio that size,
why should you lack a good advisor?), I'd liquidate cyclicals that I
didn't understand very well sooner rather than later.
Let us know what you decide to do!
/Jim
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304.3 | | SPECXN::KANNAN | | Tue Nov 03 1992 15:52 | 27 |
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How about an averaging dis-investment method?
I'd divide up the number of shares into lots and
place sell orders for those at various prices from
current prices to say curremt prices + 10%. This way you'll get to
benefit from upward movements and still be protected from unrealistic
expectations. You can even fix this percentage by looking at the trading
range for individual stocks over the say past six months. What percentage
was the highest price in relation to the lowest? This way you can
adjust the percentages depending upon what the beta is for each stock.
On the downside you may want to do the same for "stop loss" orders.
However the percentage I would use there would be 5%. The DOW has been
fluctuating within a maximum range of 5% of an approx 3000. So I would spread
the price ranges for the stop loss orders only upto normal fluctuations
and be protected from sudden losses. The reason you'd use a different
smaller percentage for stop loss orders is that on the upside you may want
to wait but not taking any chances on the downside.
Also if you have an idea of dividend distributions coming up for each
company and what they're likely to be, I'd adjust the sell orders at the
higher prices and as well as stop loss orders accordingly on a company
by company basis.
Nari
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304.4 | | VMSDEV::HAMMOND | Charlie Hammond -- ZKO3-04/S23 -- dtn 381-2684 | Tue Nov 03 1992 16:15 | 12 |
| If you *really* don't want to manage individual stocks, then sell
them all now and be done with it. (Where "now" means a 1-3 month
time.) Note that I don't think this is necessarily the best
approach. If you now have ~$800,000 invested, you can afford to
pay a portfolio manager to get you better earnings. No, I have no
idea how to find one such....
If you sell everything, talk to various brokers about the
commission fees they will charge. $400,000 is enough to look for
bids of lower than standard fees. You might also look for a local
broker who will sell the stocks and write off the fee (or part of
it) as a charitable contribution.
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304.5 | | TUXEDO::YANKES | | Tue Nov 03 1992 17:12 | 11 |
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I agree with Charlie in .4: If the basis of your question is from
the notion that you don't want to manage specific stocks, then sell
them. One suggestion: if you don't know where to move the money to and
like the idea of slowly getting out of the blue-chips as you see other
opportunities, how about selling all the stocks and moving the money
into a blue-chip stock fund? This way, you haven't fundamentally
changed your total risk exposure, but you are no longer managing
specific stocks and you can move the money at will.
-craig
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304.6 | I'd Dollar Average | FSOA::BDIMBAT | Echos in the Night | Wed Nov 04 1992 09:50 | 7 |
| "Our priority is to conserve wealth" -- sell now.
If you want to gain or lose wealth (maybe even conserve), wait.
I'm a little nervous about what might be coming up. I'd probably sell
all now, put it into a safe Fidelity account and then phone switch equal
purchases over the next 24 months to dollar average into the fund(s) I
wanted to get into. -wd-
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304.7 | Prediction | VMSDEV::HALLYB | Fish have no concept of fire. | Wed Nov 04 1992 11:54 | 11 |
| I'd sell everything now. The Committee to re-elect Clinton is telling
him to get the recession over with in his first year of office, so as
to ensure a booming economy by 1996. Plus he can blame a 1993
recession on George Bush, but not a 1995 recession.
Therefore I think the market will head generally downward over the next
year, possibly bottoming in August 1993.
Therefore, I suggest cash for now.
John
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