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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

184.0. "Citibank's Multimoney accounts in foreign money?" by VAXWRK::TCHEN (Weimin Tchen VAXworks 223-6004 PKO2) Mon May 04 1992 13:25

    Since I'm inexperienced in finances, I'm looking for opinions on
    Citibank's Multimoney account (800-321-CITI) for investing in foreign
    currencies (German, Japanese, Canadian, Austrailian, Swiss & Bristish).
    It offers money market deposits ($25,000 minimum which you can spread
    over several currencies) and time deposits ($25,000 minimum limited to
    one currency).
    
    I'm wondering about the time deposits which are like CD's of 1,2,3,6,9
    & 12 months since US CD's are presently offered at low rates while
    Germany's rates are much higher due to its need for capital to build
    up the east and due to its anti-inflationary policy. There is of course
    a danger (or gain) in changing exchange rates.
    
    I believe this is handled by Citibank's oversea's branches via a Florida
    branch. There is FDIC $100,000 coverage (not for currency fluctuations).
    I'm interested in a stable investment that keeps ahead of inflation &
    taxes.
    
    Thanks,
    -Weimin Tchen
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184.1Probably won't "keep ahead"TLE::JBISHOPMon May 04 1992 17:4326
    If you're "inexperienced in finances", and want "a stable investment
    that keeps ahead of inflation & taxes", money-market accounts in
    overseas currencies are most likely not a good tool.
    
    Because they are money-market funds, their return will be low; because
    they are foreign, they have high currency risk.
    
    If you want to try to catch high German yields, I'd recommend bonds,
    but have no idea how an ordinary person would go about buying German
    bonds.  On the other hand, it's easy to buy German (or European) stocks
    through various mutual funds, so German bond funds may exist.
    
    In my opinion, the Multimoney accounts are reasonable if you have a
    need to cover yourself from currency fluctuations (e.g. you spend three
    months of every year in Germany visiting family; your child or spouse
    is in school in France; your pay is in Canadian $, not US $), but don't
    want the trouble of maintaining an account in the foreign country.
    They are reasonable if you want to play the currency markets and have
    the nerves and the big bucks to play it with.
    
    Otherwise they are just money-market funds with slightly higher risk;
    I don't see that there is necessarily a compensating higher return.
    
    I guess the final word is that it seems a very odd first investment.
    
    		-John Bishop
184.2Bush says he is willing to trash the $ to ge re-electedVMSDEV::HALLYBFish have no concept of fire.Tue May 05 1992 09:1612
    If you must try these, I suggest going with the shorter term CDs in any
    of the European currencies, but only because my futures models predict
    a rise in BP/DM/SF over the next few months.  That will give you a
    "kicker" (i.e., the good part of the risk equation).
    
    Of course if I'm wrong and the Eurocurrencies weaken, it will likely
    wipe out your interest payments.  That's the bad part of the risk equation.
    
    If you're willing to accept those parameters, the odds are you will end
    up with a better expected return because of the higher rates available.
    
      John
184.3Learn by doing.QETOO::PREVIDIThu May 07 1992 08:2024
	  Three month CD rates, 1 MAY 92 :

	  Br. pound	%9.875
	  DM		 8.375
	  Sw Kroner	10.625
	  Dut Guilder	 8.625
	  Fin Mark	11.000
	  Dan Kroner	 8.750
	  Nor Kroner	 9.125
	  Sfr		 7.750
	  Sp Peset    11.125
	  It Lira	11.125
	  Por Escudo	11.875
	  ECU		 9.125

	  I'm sure Citybank will pay US rates on these currencies,
	  while depositing your money abroad and keeping the differential.

	  Try Canadian, Austrian or Danish banks without US branches.
	  If you have less than $10k, forget it.

	 (It's legal as long as you follow the reporting regulations.)

184.4multimoney time rates on 7 MayVAXWRK::TCHENWeimin Tchen VAXworks 223-6004 PKO2Thu May 07 1992 12:2118
    Thank you for your advice. I was interested in Citibank's 1 mo. time
    deposits since there isn't much difference in rates. Below are the
    rates as of 7 May. DM rates seem slightly higher than in .3 but the
    others are lower (perhaps DM changed since May 1 due to the strike).
    
    Perhaps I'm interested in European banking since my mother is Dutch and
    I don't have confidence in the US economy & banking system. Citibank's
    setup *seems* to ease foreign transactions.
    
    
    		DM	SFr	Br pound
    
    1 mo	8.5%	7.65	8.9
    2		8.52	7.62	"
    3		8.55	7.44	"
    6		"	7.35	"
    9		8.5	7	"
    12		8.45	"	8.85
184.5Where to get a foreign currency accountVMSDEV::HALLYBFish have no concept of fire.Wed Aug 05 1992 12:4729
U.S. Banks that provide foreign currency deposits:

American Security Bank			Northern Trust Bank
730 15th St. NW				50 South LaSalle
Washington, DC 20013			Chicago, IL 60675

Bank of America				Huntington Advisors, Inc.
315 Montgomery St.			251 South Lake Ave.
Mezzanine				Suite 600
San Francisco, CA 94104			Pasadena, CA 91101

Central Fidelity Bank			Mark Twain Bank
1021 East Cary Street			1630 S. Lindbergh Blvd.
Richmond, VA 23219			St. Louis, MO 63131

First Union National Bank		Security Pacific Asian Bank
1 First Union Center			609 South Grand Avenue
Charlotte, NC 28288			Los Angeles, CA 90017

First Wachovia Bank & Trust Co.		Union Bank
P.O. Box 3099				370 California St.
Winston-Salem, NC 27102			San Francisco, CA 94104
					415-445-0224

No, I don't have phone numbers except for the last one.  List compiled by
_The Cash Book_, Jefferson Research, 2400 Jefferson Hiway, Jefferson LA 70121.
Not necessarily a comprehensive list.

  John