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Conference nyoss1::market_investing

Title:Market Investing
Moderator:2155::michaud
Created:Thu Jan 23 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1060
Total number of notes:10477

149.0. "METPAY DIVIDENDS" by ELWOOD::PITTER () Thu Apr 09 1992 10:26

    
    I got a tax question.  This week I received two checks from
    METPAY for dividends.  Are dividends from a car/home insurance
    policy taxable income?
    
    Thank in Advance,
    ap
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149.1...return of excess premium...MIMS::SOVEREIGN_Sbut once a knight is enough(?)Thu Apr 09 1992 11:406
    I don't think so.  Seems like insurance policy "dividends" are defined
    as "return of excess premium".  (Defined this way by the insurance
    companies themselves.)  But, in the final analysis, see if they send
    you a 1099.  If they do, you have to report the income.
    
    SteveSov
149.2NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Apr 09 1992 12:055
.1 is correct.  I've been receiving "dividends" from Metpay for my homeowners
insurance since I've had it, and I've never received a 1099.  This year,
they've started giving a dividend to DECcies with auto insurance -- at least
those in Mass.  It was a pleasant surprise, especially since the two checks
arrived on the same day as our income tax refund.
149.3Found money...ELWOOD::KAPLANLarry Kaplan, DTN: 237-6872Thu Apr 09 1992 13:273
    ... In my case it was over 300 bucks !
    
    L.
149.4Not a dividendAIDEV::POLIKOFFLMO2-1/C11 Marlboro MA 296-5391Thu Apr 09 1992 15:1819
    	By law, insurance companies do not give dividends - ever. It does not
    matter what they call it, the money they give you back at the end of
    the year is what they over charged you during the year. They do not pay
    you any interest on this over charge either. Some companies keep the
    over charge.

    	This went through the courts a few years ago and the judge ruled
    that it was a refund of an over payment.

    	Term insurance companies were delighted with this ruling because
    they were able to show their customers that they did not over charge
    their customers like the other insurance companies did.

    	Insurance companies morally should send you an apology at the end of
    each year stating that they over charged you and were giving you back
    some money. Legally they can call this money anything they want. Notice
    that they did not send you a 1099 with the check.

    				Arnie
149.5Who me, I didnt get a check..ELWOOD::PITTERFri Apr 10 1992 14:577
    
    
    I sorta figured it wasn't a real "dividend".  Can't be too 
    careful around IRS.  
    
    thanx
    ap
149.6CARTUN::MISTOVICHWed Apr 22 1992 12:546
    I kindof figured as much and wondered about the interest too.  What a
    nice deal for them.  A few dollars lost to each of us, quite a few
    gained by them.
    
    sigh,
    mary