| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
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| 21.1 | Gift of future interest ==> gift tax must be paid | MINAR::BISHOP |  | Fri Jan 24 1992 19:56 | 14 | 
|  |     Strictly speaking, there are no tax benefits: a gift via Giftrust is
    a gift of future interest and so is not excludable under the $10,000
    per giver per givee per year system: you have to file a gift-tax
    return.
    
    Unlike the $10,000 stuff, it can be set up to last as a trust long
    after the recipient passes 21.  That extra control is what you're
    buying along with the management.
    
    As part of a long-term plan it may help reduce the total tax burden
    on your estate (by paying now on X dollars rather then after your death
    on far more than X) and so can be called beneficial in that sense.
    
    		-John Bishop
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| 21.2 | doesn't sound like a good tuition plan | EPIK::FINNERTY |  | Fri Jan 24 1992 19:56 | 5 | 
|  |     
    Who has to pay tax on the gift of future interest, at what time, and at
    whose tax rate?
    
    
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| 21.3 | Giver pays | MINAR::BISHOP |  | Fri Jan 24 1992 19:56 | 5 | 
|  |     It's the standard gift tax rate, paid at the time of the gift,
    and the giver pays.  Gift tax works almost exactly like estate
    taxes: starts high and goes higher.
    
    		-John Bishop
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| 21.4 | thanks but no thanks | EPIK::FINNERTY |  | Fri Jan 24 1992 19:56 | 14 | 
|  |     
    So if you make a donation to a child in the amount of $10K, you'll pay
    taxes on it today if it is a gift of future interest, but you'll pay no
    taxes if you just place it into a custodial account.  (sounds like a
    pretty bad deal)
    
    But unlike a custodial account, the money does not become the childs'
    when they reach a certain age...  you still maintain some kind of
    control over the funds (I'm a bit fuzzy about this part).
    
    Thanks for the explanation... GiftTrust doesn't sound like its for me.
    
       /Jim
    
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| 21.5 | See my notes on trusts | MINAR::BISHOP |  | Fri Jan 24 1992 19:56 | 6 | 
|  |     Uniform Gift to Minors  -- they always get it at 18, 10K rule applies.
    Irrevocable Trust -------- if they get it before 21, then 10K rule
    			       applies, otherwise gift is taxed
    Giftrust ----------------- always taxed, but can terminate at any age.
    
    			-John Bishop
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