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Title:Woodworking and Tools
Notice:INDEX see 5.nn, BUY/SELL/SWAP see 7.nn
Moderator:BAMVAX::GOODWIN
Created:Sat Mar 01 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2113
Total number of notes:20008

636.0. "Finishing Process Question" by PLATA::OSWALD () Wed Jun 29 1988 18:14

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636.1Here is my opinionSHIGEO::SASAKIMarty Sasaki LTN1-1/D07 226-6011Thu Jun 30 1988 12:0017
636.2Another methodCSMADM::MARCHETTIFri Jul 01 1988 12:0338
636.4Does it work with dye?STAR::BIGELOWBruce Bigelow, DECnet-VAXFri Jul 01 1988 21:579
636.5French PolishingSHIGEO::SASAKIMarty Sasaki LTN1-1/D07 226-6011Sat Jul 02 1988 21:026
636.7The work really is worthwhileMTWAIN::WOODSGeorge Woods DTN 223-9971Wed Jul 06 1988 15:0652
636.8Spraying produces excellant results!SHIGEO::SASAKIMarty Sasaki LTN1-1/D07 226-6011Thu Jul 07 1988 12:0512
636.9DEFT for brush and spray.BEANCT::BERKNERTom Berkner 264-7942 @HZOThu Jul 07 1988 12:4814
636.10Washed ash anyone?CSCMA::DENCEThu Sep 26 1991 14:5116
636.11ALOSWS::KOZAKIEWICZShoes for industryFri Sep 27 1991 11:0528
636.12Pickled finishMDCRAB::MARSHALLJack of all trades, master of...Mon Nov 04 1991 13:071
636.13question on sealer stage of finish processBUSY::JMINVILLEMon Mar 30 1992 13:2139
636.14XCUSME::HOGGEI am the King of NothingFri May 22 1992 14:2217
636.15Hand or Spray finishes?ELMAGO::JKRUMPOTICKSun Jun 14 1992 00:188
636.16Bartley claim justified?CPCOD::RIPLEYSun Jun 14 1992 13:2514
636.17Spray Finishes11SRUS::NEZBALLAMon Jun 15 1992 11:055
636.18I'm not a big fan of spraying...VERGA::WELLCOMESteve Wellcome PKO3-1/D30Mon Jun 15 1992 12:4618
636.19ALOSWS::KOZAKIEWICZShoes for industryMon Jun 15 1992 22:1721
636.20HYDROCOTERUSAVD::BECKERBorn to Shop,.... NOT!Tue Jun 16 1992 09:1552
636.21Water based polys eliminate some problemsSEEPO::MARCHETTIIn Search of the Lost BoardWed Jun 17 1992 09:138
636.22ALOSWS::KOZAKIEWICZShoes for industryWed Jun 17 1992 10:4022
636.23QUIVER::DESMONDTue Jul 13 1993 11:558
636.24QUIVER::DESMONDMon Jul 19 1993 12:457
636.25VERGA::WELLCOMESteve Wellcome PKO3-1/D30Mon Jul 19 1993 14:237
636.26Socks are a wonderful thingGOOEY::WWALKERhoonamana me bwangoMon Jul 19 1993 15:5829
636.27.26 could be environmental hazard 8^)BSS::GROVERThe CIRCUIT_MANMon Jul 19 1993 16:108
636.28EVMS::GODDARDMon Jul 19 1993 16:5716
636.299IRON::POWISTue Jul 20 1993 07:411
636.30JAMMER::JACKMarty JackTue Jul 20 1993 15:562
636.31cheeseclothPOLAR::FERGUSONRPROFESSORIWed Jul 21 1993 13:225
636.32Blonde Oak finish ?BIRDIE::JGREENLiving beyond my emotional meansTue Mar 07 1995 08:499
636.33RT128::KENAHDo we have any peanut butter?Tue Mar 07 1995 12:214
636.34Pre-treating figured MapleBIRDIE::JGREENMon Mar 24 1997 09:1614
    I'm completing a curly maple bookcase and have a question on sanding
    sealers. While applying stain to a scrap piece of curly maple I noticed
    that the stain really soaks in to the figured parts on the grain. When
    viewed from one angle it looks like a dark blotch. Viewed from the
    opposite angle it looks light in color and the grain pattern is
    apparent (the more desirable effect). 
    
    What I'm looking for is suggestions on how to pre-treat the maple so
    that the stain doesn't soak in resulting in a big dark blotched area.
    Sanding sealers and soft-wood treatments seem to be options but I'm
    looking for comments from anyone whose dealt with finishing figured
    woods.
    
    ~jeff
636.35NEWVAX::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPMon Mar 24 1997 10:3223
re: .34

>    I'm completing a curly maple bookcase and have a question on sanding
>    sealers. While applying stain to a scrap piece of curly maple I noticed
>    that the stain really soaks in to the figured parts on the grain. When
>    viewed from one angle it looks like a dark blotch. Viewed from the
>    opposite angle it looks light in color and the grain pattern is
>    apparent (the more desirable effect). 
>    
>    What I'm looking for is suggestions on how to pre-treat the maple so
>    that the stain doesn't soak in resulting in a big dark blotched area.
>    Sanding sealers and soft-wood treatments seem to be options but I'm
>    looking for comments from anyone whose dealt with finishing figured
>    woods.
    
I don't think sanding sealers will help you here.  The problem is that
maple takes pigment stains erratically (as you've observed).  I'd suggest
that you try a gel stain or aniline dyes.  I've had good luck with both.

I also recommend that you get a copy of Bob Flexner's book "Understanding
Wood Finishing".  It explains all of this stuff pretty well.

-Hal
636.36Try a Gel StainNEMAIL::GREENBERGWed Mar 26 1997 11:0120
    I'm not sure if you consider cherry a "figured" wood, but it presents
    similar problems when finishing. Since the wood absorbs unevenly even
    on the same board, it blotches when you put anything on it.
    
    I've had very good results with Bartley's Gel. In my case, I don't
    stain the wood, but put their clear satin gel varnish on it. Everything
    else I've tried including "wood conditioners", danish oil, oil based
    varnish and water-based poly, all turn out blotchy. The gel doesn't
    penetrate the wood and gives the best results.
    
    Try this web site for more info:
    
    http://members.aol.com/woodinfo1/salpage.htm
    
    The section on finishing cherry might be applicable among other things.
    
    Good luck.
    
    Art