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Title:POLYCENTER System Watchdog for VMS OSF/1 ULTRIX HP-UX AIX SunOS
Notice:Wishes:406,FAQ:845,Kits-VMS:1000,UNIX:694 VMS ECO01 FT kit: 521
Moderator:AZUR::HUREZZ
Created:Fri May 15 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1033
Total number of notes:4584

994.0. "TCP/IP on OpenVMS V5.5-2 agent?" by BRSADV::MICHIELS (OpenVMS: bulletproof computing) Wed Feb 05 1997 09:53

I just returned from a new CA POLYCENTER customer.
It was a suprise to see that CA is shipping now "our" products:
- on tapes with the CA label
- with documents, and the front pages has the CA logo.
- with paks with a generic authorization number, unlimited usage , no
  termination or release date...etc.
- CA delivered everything, also things like accounting chargeback, what
  the customer doesn't need; looks like Polycenter is considered as one
  big product.
- and with consulting; CA pays Digital to deliver it (I'm the lucky one).
But that's just FYI.


The customer wants to implement PCM and PSW. Management platform should be unix,
production systems are mainly OpenVMS and some unix.
  
So I installed PSW V2.2 consolidator on unix, followed by PSW on OpenVMS. 
On OpenVMS V6.2 I installed V2.2. Lucky me; I brought the ECO3 (that was
not on the CA tapes!), so the TCP/IP connection between consolidator and 
agent worked.

Unfortunately they also have some OpenVMS V5.5-2 systems, and they do not
have the intention to migrate to V6. As far as I know, TCP/IP only worked
on an OpenVMS agent starting with PSW V2.2-eco1. And PSW V2.2 requires
OpenVMS V6.

Question: what do I risk if I edit the kitinstal.com of V2.2 and V2.2-eco3,
remove the version check, and install the stuff on an OpenVMS V5.5-2 system?

Did somebody try this already? 
Or does someone see another solution?

Thanks and best regards,

Johan
    
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994.1Rather use the dedicated, although unsupported, solutionAZUR::HUREZConnectivity & Computing Services @VBE. DTN 828-5159Thu Feb 06 1997 08:1718
> Question: what do I risk if I edit the kitinstal.com of V2.2 and V2.2-eco3,
> remove the version check, and install the stuff on an OpenVMS V5.5-2 system?
    
    Well, it won't work as it will try to link SNS$TCPIP_SHR.EXE anyway,
    this is an image written in DEC C, and which needs the new version
    of the DEC C RTL and DEC threads runtime.
    
    Instead, you might want to use the special (and officially unsupported)
    kit in
    
    	AZUR::ADG$DISK:[PUBLIC.PSW22.VMS55_AGENT]
    
    which provides support for UCX on the Agent side, and a base level
    code which is equivalent to the ECO03.
    
    Best Regards,
    
    	-- Olivier.
994.2Thanks!BRSADV::MICHIELSWhy do only fools and horses work?Tue Feb 11 1997 08:5916
    Olivier,
    
    Thanks a lot. I'll give this kit a try next week.
    
    All this proves again that the sale of POLYCENTER to CA will not help
    us any further in doing business and get satified customers. I'll 
    raise the topic with CA, and I wonder how they'll react. I'm not sure
    they'll understand what I'll be talking about.
    
    Best regards,
    
    Johan
    
    
    
    
994.3BRSADV::MICHIELSWhy do only fools and horses work?Fri Feb 21 1997 09:188
    Olivier,
    
    
    I works just fine (only the IVP failed). 
    
    Thanks a lot.
    
    Johan