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Title:Arcana Caelestia
Notice:Directory listings are in topic 2
Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

1108.0. "Help needed to complete two authors" by SWAM1::HERKELRAT_RA (If they fire one, we'll fire one. One fired, sir) Fri Sep 18 1992 22:35

    Has anybody seen a first edition copy of Heinlein's Glory Road
    recently?  Preferably fine in a fine dj.
    
    Also Niven's Protector?  British first hardcover.  Again must be
    fine with a fine dj.
    
    Any help would be appreciated.
    
    Herk
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1108.1.0SOFBAS::SHERMANFri Sep 25 1992 15:146
    Couldn't help but notice that your personal name is a bit of dialogue
    from "The Bedford Incident." Good movie, but not sf ...
    
    
    ken
    
1108.2HOCUS::FERGUSONFri Sep 25 1992 16:091
    Huh.  I thought it was the computer industry's policy on layoffs.
1108.3SWAM1::HERKELRAT_RAIf they fire one, we'll fire one. One fired, sirFri Sep 25 1992 17:178
    re: -2	You are the first person in the two years I've been
    		using this personal name to identify it.  I guess
    		you're right.  In today's parlance The Bedford Incident
    		would be considered a techno thriller.  Question: What's
    		the difference between a techno thriller and near term
    		science fiction (eg. The Silver Tower).
    
    re: -1	Yup.  That's one of the reasons I've kept it so long :)
1108.4Richard Widmark SOFBAS::SHERMANFri Sep 25 1992 18:5911
    Well, "The Bedford Incident" still stands up as what you can do in
    black and white on a small budget is you have first-rate writing and
    acting. I believe I saw it in 1964. And yes, it certainly could be
    called a techno-thriller. The line in question is, of course, at the
    climax of the movie. There's probably a review of the film in the
    MOVIES file.
    
    (BTW, I'm a Naval Air type subhunter in the Reserves)
    
    Ken
    
1108.5MILKWY::ED_ECKRambo Among the RosesMon Sep 28 1992 09:584
    
    Yeah--it's what Richard Widmark says to Sidney Potier
    (how come Spellcheck doesn't have any _useful_ words in it?)
    just before the climax of the movie.
1108.6MIMS::WILBUR_DThu Oct 15 1992 20:126
    
    
    
    What is the definition of fine condition?
    
    
1108.7Accurate condition descriptions are an art form.SWAM1::HERKELRAT_RAIf they fire one, we'll fire one. One fired, sirFri Oct 16 1992 12:1835
    That's one of the harder questions to answer in a universally concise
    manner.  Ratings systems vary from dealer to dealer and sometimes from
    book to book.  For instance, I have never seen a copy of Dangerous
    Visions that doesn't suffer from a band of discoloration along the
    edge of the junction with the pastedown and the the front/back
    endleaves.  According to Ellison the problem is related to an acidity
    problem in the glue used in the binding.  He also says that unless the
    book is rebound the cover will eventually fall off the book.  So a
    fine copy of Dangerous Visions has one helluva defect to start with.
    
    In the case of the books I'm asking about, Glory Road and Protector,
    I know of no builtin physical defects.  So my definition is simple.
    They should appear to be freshly printed books.  Hard, sharply defined
    corners, no bruising to any edges, no creasing and no seperation of
    the boards.  The page edges should be clean and free from denting.
    No bookplates or writing in the book other than that placed there by
    the author.
    
    As for the dust jacket.  It's very hard to find them in perfect
    condition.  Usually, they're described as <condition, defects>.  A
    fine dw is a bright, clean copy with no fading and few defects.
    Allowable defects might include light (very light) rubbing to the
    head and/or heel of spine and possibly a small, closed tear or a
    very small amount of chipping to the spine (but not the front or
    rear panels).
    
    I know I'm picky, but _all_ the books in my collection (5000+) are
    in that condition with very few exceptions.  I've occasionally bought
    a book in less than fine condition to fill a void but the title remains
    on my 'acquire list' until replaced with a better copy.  When the book
    is replaced it either gets traded or converted to a 'reading copy'.
    
    So, Dennis, do you know where to find either one?
    
    Herk