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1011.0. "CM Kornbluth" by FSDB00::BRANAM (Waiting for Personnel...) Thu Aug 22 1991 18:28

I'm surprised that Kornbluth does not turn up in the keywords or titles. Here
was a real visionary of the 50's. I've only read one of his novels, "Not This
August", about the Russians invading the US ("Red Dawn" fans take note), but I
have read a number of his short stories. Two that really stand out are "The
Marching Morons" and "The Little Black Bag". TMM was a story about eugenics,
i.e. improving the human race through breeding of the proper gene lines, and
preventing poor bloodlines from growing. This is a very touchy subject, 
considering the Jewish Holocaust and the general racist attitudes of many
eugenicists, but the story makes you wonder about uncontrolled population
growth. The basic premise was that the poor and uneducated were growing in
population, while the intelligent were declining to the point where there was
no one left capable of running the world. If the subject does not completely
scandalize you, it's a good story.

TLBB was about a medical bag from the future that ends up in the hands of a 
washed out alkie quack. It is fully automated in that it can diagnose and cure
(self-guiding scalpel, etc.). The old doctor begins by helping out his skid-row
friends, then moves up to high-society plastic surgery. Eventually greed wins 
out and the doctor is murdered by one of his associates. Up till now the bag
controllers have left the bag alone because it is being used properly, but 
when it used to commit murder, they shut it down (remotely from the future no
less!). The ending is great: the murderer, in order to demonstrate how safe 
the instruments are, swipes at his own throat just after the bag is disabled.
The results are quite messy. This was made into a TV episode of one of
Serling's later series (I think it was his), with Burgess Meredith and Chill 
Wills.

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1011.1LABRYS::CONNELLYTelevision must be destroyed!Fri Aug 23 1991 02:0514
>						This is a very touchy subject, 
>considering the Jewish Holocaust and the general racist attitudes of many
>eugenicists, but the story makes you wonder about uncontrolled population
>growth. The basic premise was that the poor and uneducated were growing in
>population, while the intelligent were declining to the point where there was
>no one left capable of running the world. If the subject does not completely
>scandalize you, it's a good story.

It is a good story.  Small nit though about the above description: "uneducated"
is not the opposite of "intelligent", so the sentence that contrasts them does
not really make sense (i guess "stupid" is the opposite of "intelligent", and
Kornbluth was saying that the lazy and stupid were proliferating while the
industrious and intelligent were declining).
									paul
1011.2RUBY::BOYAJIANThis mind intentionally left blankFri Aug 23 1991 06:026
    re:.0
    
    Yes, "The Little Black Bag" was a segment of ROD SERLING'S NIGHT
    GALLERY. Damn fine adaptation, too.
    
    --- jerry
1011.3FSDB00::BRANAMWaiting for Personnel...Fri Aug 23 1991 12:567
> Small nit though about the above description: "uneducated"
> is not the opposite of "intelligent", so the sentence that contrasts them does
> not really make sense

Yeah, I know, but I was trying to be diplomatic and not offend anybody. I like
your description of "lazy and stupid," I've worked with a few people like 
that...
1011.4His collaborations with Fred Pohl were good too!SHIPS::GORE_IBar sinister with pedant rampantTue Aug 27 1991 09:4520
    
    Re .0
    
>        The ending is great: the murderer, in order to demonstrate how safe 
>the instruments are, swipes at his own throat just after the bag is disabled.
    				^^^
    
    Minor nit; *her* own throat.
    
    	"The Little Black Bag" was also concerned with the idea that the
    average intelligence would be lowered by "unselective breeding". If I 
    remember correctly, the concern was that the intelligent members of society,
    regardless of race, colour or creed, would abstain from having
    children. The less intelligent, sublimely unconcerned by the issues of
    uncontrolled population growth, would breed like flies!
    	Fortyish years ago this was a real concern. Now, I think it's more sad
    than scandalous. 
    
    		Ian G.
    
1011.5FSDB00::BRANAMWaiting for Personnel...Tue Aug 27 1991 13:022
re: nits: yeah, in print it was a woman, on TV it was a man. To paraphrase Rod 
McKuen, "the medium is...confused?"
1011.6VMSMKT::KENAHThe man with a child in his eyes...Wed Aug 28 1991 16:215
    Rod McKuen?  A mediocre poet?  P'raps you're thinking of Marshall
    MacLuhan (spelling suspect at best) who spoke of the medium being
    the massage (no [sic])?
    
    					andrew 
1011.7RUBY::BOYAJIANThis mind intentionally left blankThu Aug 29 1991 01:486
    Well, I just happen to have Marshall McLuhan standing right here.
    
    	"Sir, you show absolutely no understanding whatsoever
    	of my work."
    
    --- jerry
1011.8I got the allusion -- anybody else?VMSMKT::KENAHThe man with a child in his eyes...Thu Aug 29 1991 12:325
    re -1:
    
    One of the funniest scenes in film history -- I loved it!
    
    					andrew
1011.9FSDB00::BRANAMSteve @DLO, DTN 486-6585Fri Aug 30 1991 16:542
Despite the fact that I *never* make mistakes, you are quite correct. It's that
"m..c..u..a..n" sound in there. I'm sure someone would be insulted 8^)
1011.10Yo, Jerry!PENUTS::HNELSONHoyt 275-3407 C/RDB/SQL/X/MotifWed Sep 11 1991 21:516
    Was Kornbluth one of the two authors of "Gladiator at Law?" Classic SF,
    with a cynical characterization of business and the stock market which
    I still carry around in my head, twenty-five years later. Also a very
    real portrayal of ward politics. And a tough, strong female character.
    And whiz-bang technology. And creepy people behind smokey glass. Great
    book.
1011.11RUBY::BOYAJIANThis mind intentionally left blankThu Sep 12 1991 03:196
    re:.10
    
    Yes, GLADIATOR-AT-LAW was one of Kornbluth's collaborations with
    Fred Pohl.
    
    --- jerry
1011.12Try "The Space Merchants"ZENDIA::BORSOMFri Sep 13 1991 13:407
    re .10
    
    If you enjoyed "Gladiator at Law," give "The Space Merchants"
    a try.  Same dynamic duo authors and another great book.
    
    	-Doug
    
1011.13my favorite is "WOLFBANE"TRCU05::IANCROSS the bridge before you burn it!Mon Sep 16 1991 14:110
1011.14LACV01::BUCHANANLife should have a soundtrackTue Sep 17 1991 10:312
    Another vote for Space Merchants.  Excellent read.
    
1011.15Kornbluth's collaborations with PohlVERGA::KLAESQuo vadimus?Tue Sep 07 1993 20:11122
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From: [email protected] (Dani Zweig)
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Subject: REPOST: Belated Reviews #23: Frederick Pohl and C. M. Kornbluth
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Date: 07 Sep 93 01:35:55 GMT
 
	Belated Reviews #23:  Frederick Pohl and C. M. Kornbluth
 
Frederick Pohl and Cyril Kornbluth, important sf authors in their own
rights (Pohl more for his novels, Kornbluth more for his short stories), 
are another pair whose collaborations shone.  Their books from the fifties 
haven't stood up that well -- satire and social commentary tend not to -- 
but a Pohl/Kornbluth novel at half strength can still have a good deal of
horsepower.  Two of their novels had a particular impact:
 
"Gladiator At Law" (***+) presents a corporation-dominated future.  Those
who work for big corporations live very well, as long as they are good
corporate citizens.  Those who don't are relegated to concrete jungles,
bread and circuses.  Charles Mundin, a lawyer who can't even meet the
payments on his secretary, is retained by a pair of clients who turn out
to be pure poison:  Nobody wants to deal with them and nobody wants to
deal with anyone who deals with them -- even though they nominally own a 
large share of one of the world's largest corporations.  When Mundin
manages to put together an alliance that can help them and face down the
powers that make the world what it is, he finds himself face to face with 
the powers behind those powers.
 
It's instructive to compare this book to a contemporary cyberpunk novel.
The two have elements in common, but the differences are striking.  The 
corporate powers of *this* world are heartless, but not Machievellian.
Nor do they wield armed forces or high tech assassins.  The slums are also 
relatively tame -- places where danger means children with broken bottles, 
not heavily armed cyborgs.  (In general, technology doesn't play a very 
important role in this book -- another difference.)  It's a more innocent 
world, which also makes it capable of supporting a more optimistic book.
 
	  Fourteen billion dollars.
	  Fourteen billion dollars is massive, fourteen billion 
	dollars has inertia; you don't shake it easily.  Ram a 
	Juggernaut into fourteen billion dollars.  The Juggernaut 
	crumples and spills its Hindic gods into the street; the 
	fourteen billion dollars stands unmoved.
	   But fourteen billion dollars, or anything else that God 
	ever made, has a natural rate of swing.  Slap it with a 
	feather, and wait; slap it again; slap it again.  The 
	oscillation builds.  The giant construct vibrates and wobbles 
	and sways...
 
"The Space Merchants" (***) is a more heavy-handed satire, focused upon
a future in which advertising and consumerism have been taken to extremes.
Employment is barely distinguishable from contract slavery, making food
products addictive is good marketing, and conservationism is treason.  (One
of the strengths of the Pohl/Kornbluth team is that they are able to construct
such a world without making it an obvious caricature.)  Mitchell Courtenay,
a rising advertising executive, is put in charge of the biggest sales job of
his career:  Venus.  He does an effective job, too, until he is shanghaied
to another company, and finds out the hard way how the other half lives. 
(There's a recently published sequel, "The Merchants' War" (*), but I wouldn't
recommend it unless you've read this book and *really* want to know what 
happens 'next'.)
 
Pohl and Kornbluth coauthored numerous short stories, as well as seven 
novels, of which "Gladiator at Law" and "The Space Merchants" were the best.
"Search the Sky" (**) is noteworthy as an extrapolation of what the
authors may have seen as a social trend.  This novel is placed considerably
farther in the future, and presents a galaxy in which human colonization
is failing.  Ross, the protagonist, is sent on a mission which takes him
to a number of these colonies, and each is decaying in a different way --
because of genetic drift.  The foundation for this novel is Kornbluth's
slightly earlier story, "The Marching Morons" (***), about a future which 
results from centuries of the least fit having the most children.  Note that
this, in turn, is based on a concept of eugenics which was far more accepted
(and socially acceptable) early in the century than it is today.
 
I don't wish to damn these books with faint praise, as perhaps I seem to
be doing.  They made a tremendous splash, but satire and social commentary 
-- as I said at the start -- rarely age well.  A mirror held up to the 
readers of forty years ago is going to show a reflection with which today's 
readers will not as readily identify.  Personally (as if anything I write
here *isn't* personal opinion), I'd rate "Gladiator at Law" as still worth
reading on its own merits, and "The Space Merchants" as worth reading if you
enjoyed "Gladiator at Law".
 
%A  Pohl, Frederick
%A  Kornbluth, C.M.
%T  Gladiator at Law
%T  The Space Merchants
%T  Search the Sky
 
Standard introduction and disclaimer for Belated Reviews follows.

Belated Reviews cover science fiction and fantasy of earlier decades.
They're for newer readers who have wondered about the older titles on the
shelves, or who are interested in what sf/f was like in its younger days.
The emphasis is on helping interested readers identify books to try first, 
not on discussing the books in depth.
 
A general caveat is in order:  Most of the classics of yesteryear have not
aged well.  If you didn't encounter them back when, or in your early teens,
they will probably not give you the unforced pleasure they gave their
original audiences.  You may find yourself having to make allowances for
writing you consider shallow or politics you consider regressive.  When I
name specific titles, I'll often rate them using the following scale:
 
**** Recommended.
***  An old favorite that hasn't aged well, and wouldn't get a good
	reception if it were written today.  Enjoyable on its own terms.
**   A solid book, worth reading if you like the author's works.
*    Nothing special.
 
Additional disclaimers:  Authors are not chosen for review in any particular
order.  The reviews don't attempt to be comprehensive.  No distinction is 
made between books which are still in print and books which are not.
 
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Dani Zweig
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