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Title:Arcana Caelestia
Notice:Directory listings are in topic 2
Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

842.0. "Back to the Future Part II" by TROA01::SKEOCH (Lather. Rinse. Repeat.) Thu Nov 23 1989 00:27

I have just seen Back to the Future Part II -- avoid this sucker.  The
movie is just filler to make way for Part 3, due out this summer.  It is
poorly thought out, and seems mostly an excuse for the makeup men to play
with their 'aging kits'.  Most of the movie is spent in 1955, hardly any time
in 2015; just enough to justify some extra special effects.

This movie sets a bad precedent -- it ends with a cliffhanger, and then
gives previews of Part 3.  Somebody's been taking notes from certain writers of 
multi-book series!

My recommendation: Rent the video just before seeing part 3.  

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842.1-< Nothin' but bucks >FSAEUR::RODGERSMon Nov 27 1989 05:035
    I heard on the news that BTTF II grossed (?) more than 7 million
    dollars on opening day, more than any other picture to date.  Ah,
    to be in pictures (at least a percentage of the take).
    
    /DR
842.2and no credits for DECvoiceGIDDAY::CLARKEBlessed are the cheese-makers...Wed Dec 27 1989 17:048
    And do you know what *really* narked me off ?!  There were *NO* credits
    for the voice of the house computer in the 2015 sequence(s).  BTW, in
    case you didn't realise it, the voice was generated by DECvoice.  I
    don't have the EM handy, but DECvoice won the auditions for the
    computer's voice, but there was no credit given to the programmer, or
    even Digital.  Cads, bounders, illiterates, Vizigoths, Barbarians ...
    	Trully miffed,
    		     Harry :*(
842.3DECvoice isn't a person or an animal.PROXY::CANTORGo ahead; quote my say.Thu Dec 28 1989 17:5910
It's not particularly surprising to me that they didn't mention
DECvoice.   They don't usually give credits for automobiles used,
or furniture displayed, or washing machines, either.  I'm sure they
view the voice-making device as just another appliance, or tool, used
in the production of the movie.

The operator of the machine probably should have been given credit.  Did
anyone happen to notice?

Dave C.
842.4yes, but...GIDDAY::CLARKEBlessed are the cheese-makers...Thu Dec 28 1989 21:2617
    Granted that credits are not usually supplied for specific items (eg
    'Edsel' provide by Fred's Ford Factory,or whatever), but they usually
    give credits of 'Motor Vehicles supplied by General Motors', etc.  In
    most other sf movies I have seen, there has been some sort of credit
    given for any effort in programming computers, or other equipment for
    FX.  However, for the house in BTTF2, there was el zippo.  Not even
    credit for the Digit who spent time programming the voice, or even a
    'Voice computer supplied by Digital Equipment Corporation', or anything
    similar.  I sat through the credits to check.  I even had the usher
    glare at me as I left because my fianc� and I were the last to leave
    the theatre.
    
    My main gripe is that a lot of people will believe that the voice was
    supplied from a specific (unnamed) human being (viz C3PO or HAL-9000 or
    SAL-9000 or 'Big-Brother' in THX-1138) *not* digitally synthesised by a
    real (read VAX) computer.
    		      harry :*) who-has-calmed-down-a-bit-from-his-last-note
842.5Pointer to THX-1138 topic.PROXY::CANTORModeratorMon Jan 01 1990 23:323
See topic 851 for discussion of THX-1138.

Dave C.
842.6Treatment of Time in BttF2FASDER::CRUSSELLAntic the FearlessFri Jan 19 1990 09:5024
    
    I have a problem with the explanation of timelines in BthF2.  When
    they wind up in the alternate 1985 (the War-Zone), Michael J. Fox's
    character suggests that they just jump back to 2015 and prevent 
    Biff from stealing the time machine.  Doc then explains that if 
    they jump to 2015, they will wind up in the 2015 that belongs to
    the alternate 1985 and therefore they won't be able to stop Biff.
    
    If this is so, then when Biff went back in time and gave the magazine
    to himself, he should have wound up in the alternate 2015 and
    therefore not been able to drop off the time machine.
    
    I'm also not entirely happy with the explanation that Fox's girlfriend
    and Einstein the dog will be alright if left in the alternate 1985.
    Doc says that if they change history back in 1955, then time will
    adjust around them and they'll never notice.  If the alternate timeline
    theory is used, then when they change history back in 1955, his
    girlfriend and the dog should be permanently trapped in the alternate
    1985.  
    
    Anyone else have any ideas on this?
    
    					~chris
    
842.7Time takes timePIRATE::TIMPSONI told you the cat could drive...Fri Jan 19 1990 11:3417
REP  .9


    �If this is so, then when Biff went back in time and gave the magazine
    �to himself, he should have wound up in the alternate 2015 and
    �therefore not been able to drop off the time machine.

    
    Perhaps it takes time for the effects to be felt in the future.
    Remember in the first movie how when Fox stopped his dad from
    being hit by the car and in effect took his place the effects on
    time took several days to take effect.
    
    MTCW
    
    
    Steve
842.8You Want Consistency?DRUMS::FEHSKENSTue Jan 23 1990 12:169
    Maybe I'm getting old and cynical, but does anybody really expect a
    movie like BTTF/II to be technically consistent?
    
    Video Review suggests a stop frame view of the odometer in the time
    traveling DeLorean in BTTF/I - one can easily infer the order the
    various scenes were a shot in.
    
    len.
    
842.9INCH::OTTENApocatharist of GorTue Jan 23 1990 12:2510
    That's almost as bad as rewinding and watching for the mistakes in
    Star Wars...
    
    Consistancy like one actor playing the same part all the way through,
    and continuity, like an actor not suddenly changing his/her clothes
    miraculously in one scene..
    
    and Roman soldiers wearing wristwatches..
    
    But That's going too far!
842.10PFLOYD::ROTHBERGEverybody&#039;sGot2DeviateFromTheNormSat Feb 03 1990 12:559
                FWIW, I  was  watching David Letterman list night
                and he had  someone on (forget who) who said they
                were working on BTTF3!!  Dave asked him, "Dou you
                think that people really want BTTF3?" He replied,
                "More than that, Dave, people NEED BTTF3!"
                
                 rob -
                
842.11It's in thereLENO::GRIERmjg&#039;s holistic computing agencySun Feb 04 1990 13:1810
    
    Re: .10:
    
       I was under the impression that taping of BTTF3 was done at the same
    time as BTTF2, they're just going to wait a while before they release
    it.
    
    
    					-mjg
    
842.12RUBY::BOYAJIANSecretary of the StratosphereMon Feb 05 1990 05:386
    re:.11 re:.10
    
    That's correct. The two films were made back-to-back, with a
    two-week break in between.
    
    --- jerry
842.13BTTF3 - foward to the videoSUBWAY::HIBBERTJust say KNOWTue Mar 13 1990 09:404
    RE:.10-12
    
    Maybe if were lucky, BTTF3 will skip the movie and head straight for
    videotape. :-)