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Title:Arcana Caelestia
Notice:Directory listings are in topic 2
Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

632.0. "Lyric of the Innocent" by HPSTEK::XIA () Fri Jun 10 1988 15:19

     I just re-read A. C. Clarke's _The Songs_of_Distant_Earth_.  I
consider it to be one of Clarke's finest (The other one is Ren. With
Rama).  _The Songs_of_Distant_Earth_ creates a dreamy/fantasy world
and at the same time so real.  I wish I could live in a world like
that or at least take a one month vacation over there :-) :-).  
     To the folks in this conference, What do you think of the book?
Do you know any books of similar type?
Eugene
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632.1FRAGLE::MACNEALBig MacFri Jun 10 1988 16:081
    See note #335 for a discussion of this book.
632.2HPSTEK::XIAFri Jun 10 1988 16:256
    re. -1
    Thanks for the reference.  I have read through the notes in #335.
    Too bad many people do not think much of that book.  Personally,
    I feel that that planet to CA is CA to TX (Texans, no insult intended :-).
    I am thinking of a vacation in Hawaii........ soon :-).
    Eugene
632.3PerelandraATSE::WAJENBERGMake each day a bit surreal.Mon Jun 13 1988 10:4413
    One of the most gorgeous fantasy worlds I have read is "Perelandra"
    by C. S. Lewis.  This is a depiction of Venus before we knew what
    lay under the cloud cover.  It is described as a world almost entirely
    covered by water.  The oceans teem with exotically shaped and colored
    life, and the "land" is almost entirely immense floating platforms
    of vegetation.  The cloud cover permits diffuse light to penetrate,
    and the water casts it back to the clouds in a perpetual golden
    shimmer.  A large part of the attraction of Perelandra lies in it's
    being in a state of Edenic innocence.  There was no evil there (except
    for a bit introduced in the course of the story, which it was the
    protagonist's job to put an end to.)
    
    Earl Wajenberg
632.4C. S. LewisHPSTEK::XIAMon Jun 13 1988 11:529
    re .3
    Thanks for the recommendation.  I read a few Lewis' books.  One
    of them is about the Mars and it is about a dying world (I do not
    remember the title of the book).  I cannot say that I enjoyed that
    book.  Is Perelandra a lot different than that book?
    Eugene
    P.S.  I think Lewis was a good writer.  I enjoyed reading _Mere 
    Christianity_ greatly.  However, I do not like his mixing of theology
    with SF.
632.5well ...ERASER::KALLISDon't confuse `want' and `need.'Mon Jun 13 1988 13:1810
    Re .4:
    
    > [One] of them is about the Mars and it is about a dying world (I do not
    >remember the title of the book).  I cannot say that I enjoyed that
    >book.  Is Perelandra a lot different than that book?
     
    The book you read is _Out of the Silent Planet_.  _Perelandra_ is
    its sequel.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
632.6"That Hideous Strength"ATSE::WAJENBERGMake each day a bit surreal.Mon Jun 13 1988 14:229
    Re .4 & .5
    
    In fact, it's a trilogy.  "Out of the Silent Planet" is followed
    by "Perelandra," which is followed by "That Hideous Strength." 
    They all feature Elwin Ransom, and they all mix Christian theology
    with SF themes, so if you don't like that mix, you won't like any
    of them.
    
    Earl Wajenberg
632.7HPSTEK::XIAMon Jun 13 1988 14:485
    Thanks Earl,
         One more question.  Have you read all three of them.  In your
    judgement is Perelandra better than _Out of the Silent Planet_?
    Thanks in advance.
    Eugene
632.8Solicited OpinionATSE::WAJENBERGMake each day a bit surreal.Tue Jun 14 1988 10:0614
    Re .7
    
    Yes, I've read all three of them several times.
    
    I would say that "Perelandra" and "Out of the Silent Planet" are
    about equally good.  My preference would depend on the mood I'm
    in.  I like both better than I like "That Hideous Strength," not
    because of any flaws in the execution of "That Hideous Strength"
    but because it does not provoke as great a sense of wonder (it's
    set on Earth, for a start), and because the two main viewpoint 
    characters are not attractive people through much of the book 
    (though they get better as they go on).
    
    Earl Wajenberg
632.9HWSSS0::SZETOSimon Szeto, ABSS/FER, HongkongFri Jun 24 1988 10:2411
    Like Earl, I like "Out of the Silent Planet" and "Prerelandra" better,
    but I do like "Prerelandra" the best of the three.  Maybe it is
    because it is the parable of the unspoiled Eden.
    
    Regarding the topic note, I did like the short story very much,
    better than I did the novel, in which I was a bit disappointed.
    
    For me, the most enchanting world is J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle Earth.
    
  --Simon
    
632.10In the Land of NOD, east of Eden...SLTERO::KENAHBetter living through self hypnosisThu Jun 30 1988 17:428
    Perelandra spoiler:
    
    
    
    In Lewis's version, the good guys win!  Ransom acts as the
    agent of God, and Eden is saved.
    
    					andrew