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Title:Arcana Caelestia
Notice:Directory listings are in topic 2
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Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

566.0. "The Moon Goddess And The Son" by SPMFG1::CHARBONND (What a pitcher!) Thu Jan 21 1988 08:49

    The Moon Goddess And The Son by Donald Kingsbury
    ----------------------------

What do Russian history, Diana the Huntress, SDI, Boskone, games
theory, Vax, lunar colonies, archeology, Mongols, role-playing,
Soviet shuttle designs, Afghanistan, expert systems, Marxist
theory, computer war games, and World War Three all have in
common ? The answer is, they are all woven into an excellent
book by Donald Kingsbury. You may recall the short story version
of this novel, published in Analog in '79. It was reprinted in
Jerry Pournelle's collection Endless Frontiers II a few years back.
The author has updated the story and added several subplots which
serve to enhance the original. His approach to peace with Russia
is truly innovative, and amusing at the same time. I hope someone
in government discovers this book. 
There are some priceless scenes, such as the one where a games theorist
vows to get his employer on hand and knees literally kissing a cow
pattie. How he achieves this, and the subsequent results, are the
products of a master storyteller. Who else could prove that according
to Marxist theory, Soviet Russia is a capitalist state, overdue for
a workers revolution. I couldn't put the book down, except when 
laughing had me bent over. 
You may remember Kingsbury's Story titled "To Bring In The Steel."
He is adept in hard SF and creating interesting characters. His latest
book, now in paperback, is highly recommended.

Dana Charbonneau
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566.1great descriptionsNOETIC::KOLBEinto the ragged meadow of my soulWed Mar 23 1988 15:3416
	I'm in the middle of TMGATS and just had a great experience showing
	what a good author can do. I have never seen Petra and knew it only
	by the description in the book. Then the other day I was watching a
	PBS special about horses. They were showing some Arabs being ridden
	through the desert when suddenly I had a bad case of Deja'vu. I knew
	where they were! The description in the book was so acurate it was
	as if I'd seen it before. 

	The time sequence shifting seems appropriate to learning how to
	be a Russian (traveling back through the unconcious universal memory
	of mankind perhaps?) but I'd prefer more concurency in the description
	of the other characters. They seem to jump back and forth in flashbacks
	from chapter to chapter too much for my taste. The ideas for the plot
	fascinate me, I like the thought of making nuclear weapons obsolete
	through gamesmanship. liesl
566.2Now I know where I've read it!SNDCSL::SMITHMacrotechnology!Wed Aug 10 1988 14:139
    I knew the story sounded awfully familiar!  Good book but so far
    I think I like the short better.  Only thing is I can't figure out
    how they are going to use the leoport rings to kill ICBMs....
    
    When someone expands a short into a novel, aren't they supposed
    to put somewhere in the copyright page something about this novel
    having appeared (in substantially different form) elsewhere?????
    
    Willie
566.3AKOV11::BOYAJIANCopyright � 1953Wed Aug 10 1988 15:5014
    re:.2
    
    "When someone expands a short into a novel, aren't they supposed
    to put somewhere in the copyright page something about this novel
    having appeared (in substantially different form) elsewhere?????"
    
    While that is the usual form, there is no legal requirement to do
    so. Unless someone other than the author (like, for instance, the
    magazine) still has control of the copyright on the short version.
    
    It's like retitling a novel. Most of the time, they tell you what
    the original title was, but they don't *have* to.
    
    --- jerry