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Title:Arcana Caelestia
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Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

552.0. "List of names for GNOMES or ELVES?" by ARVOX::MARK (Mark Gillis, 273-3516, VRO3-3/B6) Thu Dec 10 1987 11:08

We need a list of names for gnomes or elves. for example, PUCK, HOBBIT etc.

Does anyone have a list or know where I could find the information? 

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552.1Gnomenclature?LDP::BUSCHThu Dec 10 1987 13:418
For what purpose do you need this gnomenclature (sorry)?
Are you looking for generic names for elf- or gnome-like creatures or do you
want names for individual characters?

Dave

P.S. I wouldn't say that a Hobbit comes under the class of gnomes or elves.

552.2More details - characters yes!ARVOX::MARKMark Gillis, 273-3516, VRO3-3/B6Thu Dec 10 1987 13:5714
>For what purpose do you need this gnomenclature (sorry)?
>Are you looking for generic names for elf- or gnome-like creatures or do you
>want names for individual characters?

We are installing two LAVC's with node names GNOMES and ELVES. We would like
to give names to each workstation under the theme of the boot node. We want
to avoid saying GNOME1, GNOME2 etc.

Individual characters would be ideal!

>P.S. I wouldn't say that a Hobbit comes under the class of gnomes or elves.

Thanks for the feedback - I wasn't sure about Hobbit.

552.3LDP::BUSCHThu Dec 10 1987 14:2417
< We are installing two LAVC's with node names GNOMES and ELVES. We would like
< to give names to each workstation under the theme of the boot node. We want
< to avoid saying GNOME1, GNOME2 etc.

Individual characters would be ideal!

From the Lord of the Rings, some of the elves (6 ASCII characters or less)...

	Elrond, Arwen, Cirdan
	
For dwarves (not gnomes, although I'm not sure of the difference in common 
parlance)...

	Thorin, Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Fili, Kili, Oin, Gloin, Balin, Dwalin
	Ori, Nori, Dori, Gimli, Thrain, Thror

Dave
552.4 Most are takenVAXRT::CANNOYThere are no fnords in the ads.Thu Dec 10 1987 14:369
    Be aware that almost all of the dwarves and elves from Tolkien are
    already system names somewhere on the net, most in TWO and LKG.
    
    I also know that a lot of Russian names for dwarves are taken (but
    may not be on the ENET).
    
    Check MININODE.LST first.
    
    Tamzen
552.5Keightley, Briggs, and ShakespearePROSE::WAJENBERGJust a trick of the light.Thu Dec 10 1987 16:3017
    See if you can find a copy of Keightley's "Fairy Mythology," an
    old Victorian folklore collection.  You will find a sprinkling of
    individual names and tons of race-names in there.  Also, consult
    the works of Katherine Briggs, a modern researcher on fairy folklore.
    I believe her latest work is "The Vanishing People."  Most of her
    material is British.  Briggs is probably easier to find than Keightley.
    Check the folklore section of your local public library.
    
    Also, try Shakespeare, particularly "A Midsummer Night's Dream."
    Fairies from there include Oberon, Titania, Puck, Peasblossom, Moth,
    and Mustardseed.  Then there are Ariel and Caliban from "The Tempest."
    
    If you are heavily into Tolkien, he published enough material in
    Elvish that one can COMPOSE new elven names in the language.  See
    "The Languages of Middle Earth" by Ruth Noel.
    
    Earl Wajenberg
552.6Baum & PiniPROSE::WAJENBERGJust a trick of the light.Thu Dec 10 1987 16:3913
    Then there are Oz characters.  In particular, there was the Nome
    King (Baum's spelling), who had the two names of Ruggedo and Roquat.
    I believe his prime minister was named Kaliko.
    
    Baum's Nomes were allergic to eggs, so you could call one node NOEGGS
    perhaps.
    
    For plenty of elven names, there is the cast of "Elfquest," a comic
    series and/or graphic novel by Wendy and Richard Pini.  Names that
    come to mind immediately are Leetah, Rayek, Savvah, Skywise, and
    Cutter.
    
    Earl Wajenberg
552.7AlberichLDP::BUSCHFri Dec 11 1987 07:5911
How about Wagner's Ring of the Nibelungs based on Germanic legend.

Most notable is Alberich, king of the dwarfs and leader of the Nibelungs.

(The spelling "dwarf" sounds Germanic to me, very short and chopped. JRRT 
insisted on spelling it with a "v", ie. dwarvish, etc. much more melodious
to my ears, although they were a harsh race with a harsh sounding language,
eg. Khazad.)

Dave Busch

552.8Let's hear it for word-music.PROSE::WAJENBERGJust a trick of the light.Fri Dec 11 1987 09:456
    Tolkien had a very sensitive ear for the music of words and coined
    "elven," "elvish," "dwarven," and "dwarvish,"  all of which are
    improvements over "elfin," "elfish," and "dwarfish," which are the
    only adjectives listed in my desk-top dictionary.
    
    Earl Wajenberg