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Title:Arcana Caelestia
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Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
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512.0. "coping with future shock" by AMULET::STOLOS () Thu Jul 30 1987 11:44

    hello out there,
    i've got a subject i'd like to bring up. do people here feel that
    reading sf has made it easier for you to cope with "future shock"
    issuses that appear all the time. for instance having read alot
    of stories that have different outcomes with a theme like
    genetic engineering do you feel you can come to a more enlighten
    opionion when they build labs in your town?  also could this be
    a false sense of security since the future always turns out
    stranger than we thought.  it just strikes me that when i talk
    to non-sf reader there is this horror on where technology is
    going like a loss of control in there lives or like you really
    crossed the frankenstien line and are playing god. the strange
    thing about this is that the same people seldom have the same
    sense of horror over past technology like the bomb...any comments
    on the subject?
    pete
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512.1reversed relationAMULET::FARRINGTONstatistically anomalousThu Jul 30 1987 13:1911
    I would say its more the other way around.  People with the sort(s)
    of personality which is attracted to science fiction is normally
    more predisposed to deal better with the issues leading to "future
    shock".
    
    Sorta like DEC-types and the "infringement" of computers into everyday
    life - toys, Toys, TOYS !!!  We don't fear toys (computers).  So
    if you're attracted/intrigued by technology you'll probably be a
    reader of science fiction as well.
    
    Dwight
512.2CopingBCSE::FLEMINGWorld ends... Film at 11:00Fri Aug 07 1987 16:0812
	I think reading SF can help a great deal in coping with change
	at all levels.  I guess that's what I like about SF.  It 
	challenges my perceptions.  Especially the ones I didn't even
	know I had!  It seems that the wilder a book is the more I
	like it.  I find myself saying "this is just too far out" and
	then "well, why not?".  I think a strong case could be made
	that SF writers are the most creative.  They not only have to
	create a plot and characters but they have to create their
	past, their future and the whole world they live in.

	John...
512.3fantasy + SF = satisfactionIMAGIN::KOLBEvacation here I comeMon Aug 10 1987 19:337
	I can remember when we laned on the moon and it seemed quite old
	hat. I'd been reading stories about it for so long it had already
	seemed real to me. maybe that's why I get upset when IMAGIN and 
	RESOLV don't act right. My computers should know better! I'm
	sure it was reading SF that gave me this attitude. Now that I'm
	a bit older I prefer a combination of fantasy with my SF. liesl
512.4Wasn't the Future Wonderful?VERGA::KLAESQuo vadimus?Mon Nov 29 1993 10:2885
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                         Futures - Lost Or Postponed

    Sure, the information superhighway sounds as inevitable as it does
    alluring. But don't count your bandwidths before they're wired. Modem
    industrial history is littered with technological revolutions that took
    unexpected directions, took longer than predicted, or cost more than
    anyone imagined. Some prominent corpses:

    ROBOTS. When, in 1939, Westinghouse produced a robotic man, Electro,
    and his robot dog, Sparko, that could "talk see, smell, count, and
    sing" to audiences at the New York World's Fair, it looked as if
    personal robots might be for real. By the 1950s, pundits were predicting 
    these rascals would be so ubiquitous that humans would work only ten 
    hours a week. Are you?

    THE ATOMIC AGE. In the 1950s atom power was going to be the power "too
    cheap to meter." Engineers predicted that pellets of plutonium would
    power homes, refrigerators, wristwatches, trains, planes, and
    automobiles. In 1958, Ford Motor Co. got a jump on the impending atomic
    age by making a model car with sweeping tail fins called the Nucleon.
    Its imaginary power plant:  A portable, rechargeable, nuclear reactor.
    Such aspirations ended when Americans developed a severe, and seemingly
    permanent, case of nuclear anxiety.

    ULTRASONICS. Ultrasound has established itself in some marvelous
    niches, such as cleaning jewelry, moisturizing the air in infant
    nurseries, and producing those hideously ugly (yet wildly exhilarating
    for parents) sonogram pictures of babies in utero. But the future-gazers 
    of 25 years ago anticipated much more. They foresaw  ultrasonic
    dishwashers, washing machines, and showers. What sonophiles failed to
    anticipate is that no one would prefer sound waves beating dirt from
    his body in dusty clouds to having hot, steamy, skin-tingling water
    scrub it off his back.

    A PLANE IN EVERY GARAGE. A House of the Future at the 1933 World's Fair
    in Chicago contained on its first floor a recreation room, a garage and
    a hangar plane. "People thought this technology would trickle down when
    a Henry Ford of flight devised a way to make safe, inexpensive personal
    aircraft, says Joseph Corn, professor of American history at Stanford
    University. While the Ford of personal flight never appeared, technology 
    did in the end make it affordable for almost anyone to fly, provided 
    every person is willing to squeeze into a little seat in what usually 
    feels like a cattle car.

    As for the electronic highway, remember teletext, video phones, and 
    quadraphonic sound, among other things?  All became road kill on this
    future freeway because they have failed (so far) to develop viable
    markets.

    Timing, after all, is critical. In the mid-1940s science fiction writer
    Arthur C. Clarke foresaw the possibility of constructing a global
    communications network based on satellites in geosynchronous orbit. But
    had anyone tried to carry out Clarke's vision before the 1960s, he
    almost certainly would have failed because Clarke did not foresee the
    semiconductor revolution that makes today's satellites possible. The
    satellites he envisioned were occupied, like lighthouses of old, by a
    tender who stood ready to replace burned-out vacuum tubes. Wonder why
    he didn't think of robots?

    {Fortune November 15,1993}

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512.52020WORLD - Exploration of Life in the Year 2020MTWAIN::KLAESNo Guts, No GalaxyFri Sep 23 1994 12:1068
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512.6OKFINE::KENAHDo we have any peanut butter?Fri Sep 23 1994 13:007
    Waste of bandwidth.  We can't even predict ten years into the future;
    (ten years ago nobody predicted the ubiquity of cellular phones and the
    explosion of fax technology, just to name two very simple examples).
    
    25 years from now things will be far different than anything we could
    imagine.
    					andrew