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464.1 | YOW! Gibson does it again! | NATASH::MEDEIROS | | Thu Apr 23 1987 14:41 | 3 |
| Highly recommended. More cyberpunk neuro-stim jacking into the
sprawl matrix with the console cowboys. Check it out.
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464.2 | | ARMORY::CHARBONND | | Fri Apr 24 1987 13:29 | 4 |
| Finally rediscovered my base note. CZ takes place in the
"Neuromancer" world about seven years after that story.
I didn't think it was quite as good. Does anyone know when
Gibsons' short story collection is due out ? Thanks Dana
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464.3 | BC | CGHUB::CONNELLY | Eye Dr3 - Regnad Kcin | Fri Apr 24 1987 20:37 | 3 |
| re: .2
You mean out in paperback? "Burning Chrome" has been out in
hardcover for a while now...
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464.4 | Welcome to the Sprawl | SOFBAS::JOHNSON | Call Security | Tue Jun 23 1987 13:43 | 27 |
| RE: Count Zero
(being in same Universe as Neuromancer) Yeah. Several times they
drop hints referring back to events in the first book. Furthermore,
the space station where Marly met the artist of the mysterious boxes
was, I believe, the abandoned hulk of Tessier-Ashpool's Freehold--and
the artist "him"self was the AI "being" created at the end of
Neuromancer from Wintermute and its alter ego.
I enjoyed Count Zero a good deal; definitely worth a read. Agreed,
though, that the pacing doesn't work quite as well as in
Neuromancer-- simply because he's trying to juggle three characters'
plotlines at once, alternating between them, and although he more
or less pulls it off (no mean feat) it inevitably loses continuity
and narrative drive (and I found myself having to thumb back to
the last encounter with each character to remind myself of where
he left them).
But there's no doubt that Gibson has a hell of a flair with this
insane world he's created. The problem may be, he's so good at
the particular, unique style of the "console cowboy" books that
I don't know if I could take him seriously writing anything else.
RE: Burning Chrome
Does anybody know if this is in the same vein as Neuromancer, etc.?
What's this about a collection of short stories?
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464.5 | Just a pest... | ELWOOD::WHERRY | Cyber Punk | Tue Jun 23 1987 15:38 | 9 |
| Isn't "the artist" just one of the manifestations of the AI,
for are not the "gods" specifically the voodoo ones also part of
the AI?
re. _Burning_Chrome_
Does anyone know if this book is available in paperback in the
US? I have looked at a few places in Worcester, Fab Fiction, Waldens,
and a small book store. Waldens claims to never have heard of it.
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464.6 | Gibson news | NUTMEG::BALS | Scribble, scribble, scribble | Thu Jun 25 1987 12:32 | 24 |
| RE: .4 and .5
>RE: Burning Chrome
>Does anybody know if this is in the same vein as Neuromancer, etc.?
>What's this about a collection of short stories?
BURNING CHROME is a collection of Gibson's published short stories
to date. I believe only one story that he's written isn't in the
collection. Some of the stories are set in Gibson's "Sprawl" world,
that is, the same world as that of NEUROMANCER and COUNT ZERO. In
fact, a few characters from the novel(s) appear in some of the stories.
BURNING CHROME hasn't been released in U.S. paperback yet, but probably
will be soon. The book *is* available in hardcover release.
BTW, Gibson is currently working on the third (and, he said probably
final) novel of the NEUROMANCER series. Should be released in HC
sometime next year. He's also working on a collaborative novel with
someone (he didn't want to tell me who), which he said is going
to be a "historical fantasy." And ... he's also working on a movie
script, *not* the NEUROMANCER script - which he's seen, has totally
disavowed, and says will probably never be produced.
Fred
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464.7 | More Gibson news | TALLIS::SIGEL | | Fri Jun 26 1987 15:08 | 5 |
| According to the new "Locus", Gibson has been signed to write the
script for the movie "Alien III", based on a treatment by Walter
Hill and David Giler (who co-produced the first two movies, and
had story credits on the second).
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464.8 | Ripley in Mirrorshades vs. Cyberpunk Bugs | AKOV76::BOYAJIAN | In the d|i|g|i|t|a|l mood | Tue Jun 30 1987 02:54 | 3 |
| Aw, ya beat me to it.
--- jerry
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464.9 | character plotlines | DECSIM::HEILMAN | Speak softly and wear a loud shirt | Wed Jul 08 1987 13:23 | 27 |
| > simply because he's trying to juggle three characters'
> plotlines at once, alternating between them, and although he more
> or less pulls it off (no mean feat) it inevitably loses continuity
> and narrative drive (and I found myself having to thumb back to
> the last encounter with each character to remind myself of where
> he left them).
Yes, I enjoyed the "texture" of the book, but in terms of it being
structured with 3 different characters plotlines I found that
a) I had to keep thumbing back to remember what the character
had last been doing
b) When an author has structured different character plotlines I
usually expect that the way in which the relationship between
the characters is revealed and the nature of that relationship
will be a key (and interesting) point of the book. I guess
Count Zero felt to me like he was just writing along, then
all of a sudden realized "oops I've got to end this soon" and
so pulled the characters together quickly. But then, I always
hate the way books end, so I wouldn't pay a whole lot of
attention to my opinion :-)
An example of separate plotlines I did like was in Spider
Robinson's Mindkiller, which (as I recall... it has been a while)
starts off with two, apparently unrelated streams, then eventually
the nature of the relationship between them is revealed to the reader.
(but not here, due to SPOILER potential!)
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464.10 | Blip! | BRIVAX::NOBLE | Groovy. | Wed Jul 29 1987 08:57 | 13 |
| "Count Zero" is the first SF that I've read in a number of years,
(I follow this conference for movie and TV notes,) but I did enjoy
it tremendously. The general complaint concerning the 3 concurrent
plotlines didn't bother me at all, and in fact struck me as a desired
effect; Gibson regards his audience in the same way as his characters,
looking for constant stimulation, and used to a quick fire world.
Three stories running simultaneously requires no concentration
compared to following several programmes on the TV, whether
simultaneously or over time.
Steev
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464.11 | welcome back | ARMORY::CHARBONND | Noto, Ergo Sum | Wed Jul 29 1987 09:40 | 2 |
| Re .10 Try "Neuromancer". Same future, better story. CZ refers
to it several times.
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