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404.1 | What about Robotech? Star Trek? The Jetsons? | CURIUS::LEE | Elen s�la lumenn omentilmo! | Fri Oct 17 1986 13:57 | 12 |
| I rather like Robotech, it's done by pretty much the same people
as Star Blazers, right? I also liked the Star Trek animateds.
On a less serious vein, I've got to admit that I also like the
Jetsons. (Rerro, Rorge! :^)
Thanks,
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404.2 | AND NOW, DOCTOR QUEST... | EDEN::KLAES | Mostly harmless. | Fri Oct 17 1986 14:08 | 6 |
| How about good ol' JONNY QUEST?! It actually had some intelligence
for a Saturday morning show, and it also introduced some great SF
characters, like the robot "spider" and the Cyclops energy being.
Larry
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404.3 | Puppeteers vs the Tholians | PROSE::WAJENBERG | | Fri Oct 17 1986 15:00 | 14 |
| The Star Trek cartoon has several things going for it. First off,
they could do something about the embarassing excess of humanoids.
It is, if anything, easier to draw non-humanoids than to draw humans,
since it is harder to claim the drawing is inaccurate.
Also, they often got "real" SF writers to do the scripts. E.g.,
Larry Niven did or allowed an adaptation of his short story
"The Soft Weapon," in which Spock, Uhura, and Sulu meet the kzinti.
This addition sort of "stuck" and the Enterprise continued to encounter
kzinti from time to time. Also, the Star Trek role playing game
has the kzinti along with the Romulans and Klingons as standard
unfriendly neighbors of the Federation.
Earl Wajenberg
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404.4 | RE 404.3 | EDEN::KLAES | Mostly harmless. | Fri Oct 17 1986 18:17 | 15 |
| The Kzinti figure prominently in the STAR TREK MAPS, showing
the range of their empire - much decreased after the four Earth-Kzinti
Wars (musta had to fit 'em in between the Eugenics and Romulan Wars),
as well as a Kzinti space marker buoy.
The STAR TREK STAR FLEET SPACEFLIGHT CHRONOLOGY, while very
inaccurate in many areas, does emphasize some ST animated shows'
contributions to the ST universe - like detailing the S.S. BONAVENTURE,
except that they made it look like a flat submarine; in reality,
it was shaped like a small, fat ENTERPRISE (it was the first warp-drive
starship, lost on its third mission in the Delta Triangle - which
is also located in the ST MAPS).
Larry
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404.5 | | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | The Mad Armenian | Sat Oct 18 1986 02:11 | 29 |
| re:.1
ROBOTECH and STAR BLAZERS are both Japanese, but I don't know if
they are actually by the same outfit (the American companies are
different, though).
re:.2
Actually, when JONNY QUEST first appeared, it was a prime-time
cartoon show, on Friday nights at 7:30. It's still considered to
be the best American adventure cartoon series ever made. Great
stuff!
re:.3
Niven *did* do the adaptation himself. It was amusing to see Spock
as a Nessus surrogate. On the other hand, David Gerrold was the
only other "real sf writer" to do a script for the animated series.
The original series, though, had scripts by Richard Matheson, Ted
Sturgeon, Robert Bloch, and Norman Spinrad (as well as Gerrold).
Another good (Japanese) sf cartoon is THUNDERBIRDS: 2086, loosely
based on the Gerry Anderson supermarionation (TM) show. Some of
the scripts are very well written. And each one contained a hidden
reference to an sf tv show or movie.
And, of course, there are always the animated feature films...
--- jerry
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404.6 | T-birds | ELMO::JESSOP | | Mon Oct 20 1986 17:57 | 9 |
|
re:.5
yes yes! i love the new Thunderbirds cartoon. I assume it
is a take off of the old Thunderbirds, but I don't remember the
character names. i also don't remember when the old Thunderbirds
took place. Does anyone know?
Mike
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404.7 | Sentinel One | ELMO::JESSOP | | Mon Oct 20 1986 18:00 | 12 |
|
Also, there used to be another 'toon out about the same time
Star Trek (the 'toon) came out (I think). It was a trio of beings,
I think it was Hermes, heracles and a woman, teamed up with a super
sentient computer called Sentinel One. there were a bunch of Sentinel
computers all over the galaxy. I think they defended the galaxy
from nasty evil doers...
That was quite a good cartoon.
Mike
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404.8 | Good news for JONNY QUEST fans | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | The Mad Armenian | Tue Oct 21 1986 01:58 | 5 |
| I read somewhere that the original JQ cartoons are going to be
released on videotape --- two episodes per tape --- starting
this month.
--- jerry
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404.9 | RE 404.5 | EDEN::KLAES | Mostly harmless. | Tue Oct 21 1986 10:19 | 15 |
| I know you, Jerry, may not consider D. C. Fontana an SF writer,
but she did do one of the best animated STAR TREK episodes of them
all - "Yesteryear", the one where, due to some meddling with the
time lines while Kirk and Spock used the Guardian of Forever to
explore Orion's past, Spock in another time reality actually died
in a Vulcan manhood ritual, and the ENTERPRISE instead had an Andorian
as Science Officer. Spock had to go back to Vulcan to meet himself
as a boy, in order to save his life and restore his time reality.
Fontana is one of the best at depicting characterizations in
ST, and this animated was almost flawless; they even had Mark Lenard
do the voice for Sarek.
Larry
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404.10 | ?? | ELMO::JESSOP | | Tue Oct 21 1986 13:51 | 9 |
|
RE:.9
This may not be a sensible question, but why did Spock have
to change the other time reality? He was still able to get back
to his wasn't he? And different realities shouldn't be able to
affect one another. Valid question?
Mike
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404.11 | RE 404.10 | EDEN::KLAES | Mostly harmless. | Tue Oct 21 1986 18:18 | 13 |
| This is certainly without any "serious" knowledge, but I am
assuming he would be 'trapped" in the time reality where the Andorian
was Science Officer, because in that reality he did not exist,
therefore his actions did not exist.
This could then be shown that since he did not exist, how could
he go back to change his past, and this is where any sane mind trying
to solve this paradox calls it quits.
Any "insane" minds want to tackle this?
Larry
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404.12 | | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | The Mad Armenian | Wed Oct 22 1986 01:59 | 11 |
| re:.9
Yes, you're right. I don't consider D.C. Fontana to be a "real"
sf writer, simply because she hasn't published any sf, except a
tv novelization or two. She's a tv writer who happens to have
written some sf in that medium. This doesn't mean she's a bad
writer. On the contrary, I've generally thought her ST work was
among the best on the show. But it doesn't put her in the same
"class" as Ellison, Sturgeon, etc.
--- jerry
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404.13 | ... | ELMO::JESSOP | | Thu Oct 23 1986 13:44 | 9 |
|
Also, who did the meddling while Spock and Kirk were in the
Guardian? Hmmm. If this was done while they were still in the
guardian, then they could still effect the change back without any
problems. It would be just as always, as long as they didn't leave
the Guardian, right? Or am I just messing myself up here?
Mike
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404.14 | Yeh... | ELMO::JESSOP | | Thu Oct 23 1986 13:53 | 11 |
|
Back to other 'toons though, yes, I like Robotech very much
(Iforget who entered that one). The robots are pretty incredible,
and yet I can actually picture us eventually developing devices
like that. Although, I can't picture something like the Mother
ship. I would think that something with that much mass wouldn't
be able to withstand the stresses of gravity. Sort of like I couldn't
picture Godzilla (who weighs 440 million tons!) walking onthe Earth.
I would think that he'd go right therough the ground!
Mike
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404.15 | Meet George Jetson... | ANT::MLOEWE | Mike Loewe | Thu Oct 23 1986 14:37 | 9 |
| Some other pretty good SF toons (fantasy also):
"Thundar the Barbarian"
"Space Ghost" One of my old personal favorites next to JQ (already
mentioned).
"Transformers" I took my son to see that movie (excellent effects
they do with cartoons now).
.....And who can't forget "The Jetsons" (already back on television).
Mike_L
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404.16 | | ELMO::JESSOP | | Thu Oct 23 1986 17:43 | 6 |
| Yes! I had forgotton about Thundarr! That WAS a good 'toon. I
like the theme of civilization starting over again after the war.
I still catch Space Ghost on cable every once in a while, along
with the teen heroes and all of his other buddies...
Mike
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404.17 | OH CRUMBS! | EDEN::KLAES | Pining for the fjords. | Thu Oct 23 1986 19:59 | 10 |
| Don't forget DANGERMOUSE!
And you know what else isn't too bad (really), check out THE
NEW GHOSTBUSTERS - the animation is excellent (there are shadows!),
the characters have some depth to them, the plots are (so far)
interesting, and there are some clever, imaginative concepts and
twists to it.
Larry
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404.18 | Get off of me, Slimer! | ANT::MLOEWE | Mike Loewe | Fri Oct 24 1986 09:32 | 5 |
| I caught an episode of the NEW GHOSTBUSTERS, and it was very
interesting with great animation. Boy! I tell you, cartoons have
come a long way from when I was a kid.
Mike_L
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404.19 | Ohhh Pennfold! | ELMO::JESSOP | | Fri Oct 24 1986 13:12 | 11 |
|
RE:.17
Oh 'eck! I almost forgot Chief!
I noticed that there are TWO Ghostbuster cartoons. One on Saturday
mornings (I think that is the better one) and a series on weekdays,
with different characters. Are they done by the same company?
Mike
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404.20 | MASK | ELMO::JESSOP | | Fri Oct 24 1986 13:20 | 5 |
| Oh ho! What about MASK? That's a decent Cartoon. I like the
characters, and the powers of the different masks are neat. Not
to mention their quick change battle/cars.
Mike
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404.21 | CONCERNING ST'S "YESTERYEAR" | EDEN::KLAES | Pining for the fjords. | Fri Oct 24 1986 14:31 | 12 |
| Concerning the discussion as to WHY Spock died in another time
reality in the ST animated episode "Yesteryear", the reason is -
as full of holes as it is - that when Spock traveled back into the
planet Orion's past, time could not handle the fact of there being
two Spocks existing in different areas of space at the same time
(The time of Orion's past they were exploring was when Spock was
a young boy on Vulcan). This paradox being the case, young Spock was
effectively "eliminated" from the picture, thus creating the situation
Spock encountered upon his return.
Larry
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404.22 | Wind in the Willows | PROSE::WAJENBERG | | Mon Oct 27 1986 10:52 | 18 |
| There is an excellent cartoon version of "Wind in the Willows" done
as a series on either the Disney channel or the Nickelodeon channel,
I forget which. (But I think it's Disney.) I saw it for the first
time while visiting relatives last week. It is done with stop-motion
animation. They have beautifully preserved the characters of these
four late-Victorian animals and come up with half-hour adventures
for them that could easily come from the book. At least, these
was true of the two instances I saw.
On a more SF-ish note, a couple of years ago there was a cartoon
about a young scientist and his faithful team of robot champions
that he invented himself. They were rather like Voltran -- the
five robots could combine into one immense robot. Together or
separately, each had particular powers. Now the hard part: can
anyone identify and name the series from this description? I can't
recall the name.
Earl Wajenberg
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404.23 | The Mighty Orbots | ELMO::JESSOP | | Mon Oct 27 1986 12:42 | 10 |
|
re.22
It was called The Mighty Orbots. Did you ever notice how the
robots got larger when they were getting ready to merge into one?
Mike
re.20
Thanks for the explanation about the Orion incident...
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404.24 | RE 404.23 | EDEN::KLAES | Pining for the fjords. | Mon Oct 27 1986 13:00 | 5 |
| At the risk of seeming egotistical, it was Larry at Note .21
who explained the Orion incident.
Larry
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404.25 | oh well... | ELMO::JESSOP | | Tue Oct 28 1986 12:30 | 6 |
|
Oops, sorry, but I was close! Anyway, you know who you are
out there...
Mike
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404.26 | Captain Harlock | ARGUS::COOK | Dreadful Mourning | Mon Nov 03 1986 05:26 | 6 |
|
Captain Harlock and the Queen of a Thousand Years is THE best...
besides Robotech. Made by the same people.
Peter
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404.27 | Galaxy 999 | ELMO::JESSOP | | Mon Nov 03 1986 12:16 | 7 |
| Oh yes! That reminds me (re.26), a while back there was a movie
called The Galaxy 999 Express, a cartoon movie and Captain Harlock
was in it, along with a woman pirate who flew around in a starship
that looked like a zeppelin. Anyone else see that??? I think it
was on HBO or The Movie Channel...
Mike
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404.28 | ANIMATED X-MAS ALIENS | EDEN::KLAES | Welcome to Olympus, Captain Kirk! | Mon Nov 03 1986 13:03 | 14 |
| Does anyone remember a Christmas cartoon made about ten years
ago, which dealt with three aliens (who just happen to look similar
to the Three Wise Men) who come to Earth to discover why a brilliant
star appeared in this sector of the Galaxy about 2,000 years ago?
I thought it was rather well done, story and animation-wise.
I particularly liked the aliens' starship - a black sphere whose
"hatch" seemed to fold open and produce a ramp like opening numerous
curtains of material. Their appearance was interestingly superficial
to the Three Wise Men, and they even had a code of non-interference
(but of course they DID "interfere" with humanfolk).
Larry
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404.29 | | ELMO::JESSOP | | Mon Nov 03 1986 15:55 | 6 |
|
yes, i remember a bit of it (hey, that rhymed!). At the end
when the aliens left (after celebrating Christmas with the people)
they made some fireworks for them...
Mike
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404.30 | | ELMO::JESSOP | | Mon Nov 03 1986 15:58 | 6 |
|
Did they also help decorate the tree with telekinesis or something?
Did you ever wonder just how close man is to having blatant Psi
powers? And how they work/what they are (or would be)??
Mike
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404.31 | RE 404.30 | EDEN::KLAES | Welcome to Olympus, Captain Kirk! | Mon Nov 03 1986 17:01 | 13 |
| Yes, they used their telekinetic powers.
Does anyone remember the name of the show? They broadcast it
in syndication for several years, then it just disappeared. It
was bit corny sometimes, and rather ETish (though it did come out
before ET), but I was still intrigued by the concept of aliens noticing
the appearance of The Star and wanting to find out what it was.
Perhaps they might have discovered something about The Star
which made it different from other nova or supernova, and felt compelled
enough to send an expedition out to study it.
Larry
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404.32 | ??? | ELMO::JESSOP | I am created Shiva... | Tue Nov 04 1986 11:54 | 7 |
|
that is a thought. Why would a Nova lead beings from
another star system to Earth?? Unless it WASN'T a star, and it
hovered over Earth.
Mike
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404.33 | GRANDIZER/DANGUARD ACE | LOOKUP::AMSCOM | | Thu Feb 05 1987 07:06 | 10 |
| DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SHOW THAT USED TO BE ON AFTER
STARBLASERS? IT WAS A DIFFERENT SHOW EVERY DAY BUT MADE BY THE SAME
COMPANY.THE SHOWS WERE ON ONCE A WEEK EACH ON THE SAME DAY. THEY
ALL HAD TO DO WITH ROBOTS LIKE THE TRANSFORMERS BUT THIS SHOW CAME
OUT A FEW YEARS BEFORE THE TRANSFORMERS. ONE WAS NAMED GRANDIZER
THE MAN WHO OPERATED THE ROBOT WAS NAMED ORION QUEST.THE OTHER
SHOWS ROBOT WAS NAMED DANGAURD ACE THER WAS A MAN NAMED CAPTIAN
MASK. THE OTHER THREE SHOWS I CAN NOT REMEMBER. I DO REMEMBER
THEY ALSO MADE TOYS OF THESE ROBOTS,THEY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH
THE SHOGUN WARRIORS. THANKS STEVE T.
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404.34 | They've Gone Away! | ERIE::ELEE | | Sun Feb 08 1987 23:25 | 17 |
| I believe the show got canned after the station changed owners (but
I wouldn't swear to it). Was this the same program that had the
robot named Gyking and the segment called the Three Spaceketeers?
Gyking was some kind of mechanized space dragon who's head became
the torso of a super robot. The other body parts were launched
from the dragon's insides (sounds corny, doesn't it?).
The Three Spaceketeers was too corny to merit a good description.
By the way, I did see some of these cartoons on videotape at a local
video rental store. I believe they are being marketed by Family
Home Entertainment (fhe) in VHS format.
Hope that helps. :-)
Eric Lee
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404.36 | Animated SF film | MOJAVE::PURMAL | | Mon Feb 09 1987 15:20 | 14 |
| I don't know if you consider full length animated feature films
cartoons, but if you do here's one I vaguely remember.
I remember seeing a French animated science fiction film several
times. I seem to recall that it was called "Fantastic Planet",
and it was about the interaction of two species of humanoids. The
one species was our size, and the other was about 1 foot tall. The
larger species kept the smaller species as pets even though they
were intelligent beings.
I used to see this film at a triple feature sandwiched between
"Zardoz", and "A Boy And His Dog". I always enjoyed it even though
it wasn't great. The music was wonderful, and I have a feeling
that it was done by Jan Michael Jarre, but I could easily be wrong.
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404.37 | Those critters were us. | PROSE::WAJENBERG | | Mon Feb 09 1987 15:46 | 10 |
| If my memory serves me well, I believe the smaller race of humanoids
were genuine Earthling humans. They looked just like us, right?
And the giant race was blue, with round, lidless eyes? Apparently,
they found humans living in barbarism, either back in the Stone
Age or after the collapse of civilization. The aliens then took
us in as pets, never realizing we were intelligent. The movie
concerned the efforts of the humans to get organized enough to be
a big enough nuissance to MAKE the giants realize they were sapient.
Earl Wajenberg
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404.38 | HEAVY METAL (The Movie) | PENNSY::ELEE | | Mon Feb 09 1987 21:18 | 19 |
| re: .36
One of my favorite SF/Fantasy (depending on your point of view)
movies was "Heavy Metal." The animation was superb!!!! The cartoon
characters who were human were drawn with an amazing eye for detail.
The segment with the two space junkies who flew around in a giant
happy face has to be seen to be believed!
The most interesting premise of the movie is the supposition that
all of the events that take place (or viewed by the little girl
through the green orb) are all happening simultaneously. This was
the only way I could make some sense of the movie's ending.
[I'd say more, but I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't
seen the movie.]
Anyone else share my enthusiam for "Heavy Metal?"
Eric Lee
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404.40 | HEAVY METAL | CACHE::MARSHALL | hunting the snark | Tue Feb 10 1987 09:35 | 22 |
| re .38:
I'm a HEAVY METAL fan too, since I recently got a VCR, I've been
looking for this on tape. Haven't found it yet (but I haven't looked
that extensively yet).
I loved the opening sequence with the Corvette.
re .39:
The most likely thing that happened is that you lost your network
link while your message was being written, thus leaving the file
open, and producing the message "Note xxx.xx is being written".
Do a SHOW MODERATOR, then send him a MAIL message asking him to
delete that note. You should first try to DELETE it yourself though.
For all practical purposes, what you entered is lost.
/
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404.41 | Try a catalog | DDMAIL::ANDREWS | Just living a life of illusion | Tue Feb 10 1987 17:09 | 9 |
| Re:40
I have checked with several video stores in the Chicago area and
none of them have ever seen the movie out on tape. I would say
the best way would be to find someplace that has a catalog to order
from. If you DO find it, I (and probably many others) would appreciate
the info. (Manufacturer, cost, etc...)
Rob
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404.42 | | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | A disgrace to the forces of evil | Wed Feb 11 1987 00:15 | 4 |
| As far as I know, HEAVY METAL has not been released on video-
cassette yet.
--- jerry
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404.43 | Revised pointer to ANIMATION conference | AKOV11::BOYAJIAN | Copyright � 1953 | Sat Aug 06 1988 02:47 | 67 |
| I was cruising through the file and came across this older topic.
First of all, I should mention here that there is a new conference,
QARRY::ANIMATION, devoted to cartoons of all types. At the NOTES>
prompt, type ADD ENTRY QARRY::ANIMATION or hit "KP7" or "SELECT"
to add to your notebook.
Now a couple of specific 'toon comments:
I've relatively recently been getting into Japanese animation, and
there are three feature-length animated films from Japan that are
outstanding as sf/fantasy.
First is MACROSS: DO YOU REMEMBER LOVE? MACROSS started out as
a tv serial, and that serial was translated into the first third
of the American series ROBOTECH. In 1984, the producers of MACROSS
condensed the script for the original serial into a two-hour film
and re-animated it (rather than just cutting up the original and
pasting it together). The film version has spectacular animation
-- each frame seems to have as many things going on it it as there
are during the space battle scenes in the Star Wars movies. Like
the Star Wars films, MACROSS is pure space opera, but *great* space
opera. The basic story is of a city-sized spaceship, Macross, which
contains the survivors of a devastated Earth. They come across
two sets of warring aliens and manage to get caught in the middle.
NAUSICAA OF THE VALLEY OF THE WIND is considered by many fans of
Japanese animation to be one of the best animated films ever. It
takes place on a post-holocaust Earth. Nausicaa is the princess
of one pocket of survivors, and is in the process of finding the
key to begin restoration of Earth's damaged biosphere. Unfortunately,
some other groups, trying to reunite mankind via conquest, threaten
to destroy everything. This was translated into English and released
here as WARRIORS OF THE WIND. Most fans of the original loathe what
they refer to as the emasculated version (it's only about 75% of
the original), though a couple of friends of mine who've seen it
(but not the original) thought it was quite good. I'd like to see
it myself sometime, if only for comparison's sake (it was on HBO
the other month, but I don't get HBO).
LAPUTA: CASTLE IN THE SKY is by the same writer/director/artist
as NAUSICAA. It's set in what must be (but is never said to be)
an alternate Earth. Technology in general is not as advanced as
ours, but aeronautical technology is very advanced, helped out by
the existence of stones that induce levitation. Laputa was a giant
castle in the sky that had been abandoned at some point in the
past and has passed into legend. The movie focuses upon the efforts
of three groups to find Laputa. One is led by a government agent
(your typical CIA-type slug) backed by the military. The second
is a group of air_pirates who are out for booty. The third is a
young boy, Pazu, who's helping out a girl, Shita, who is apparently
a descendent of the original inhabitants of Laputa.
The strength of these films is such that it's possible to get the
gist of what's happening even if you don't understand Japanese
(some of the finer points do get lost, though). Oddly enough,
though, there is a version of MACROSS in English (aside from the
version that's part of ROBOTECH) -- it was produced in Japan for
the video market, using Australian voice actors, apparently as an
educational for students to learn English. Unfortunately, this
version is marketed only in Japan. Supposedly, another translation
has been/will be released for the American video market under the
absolutely god-awful title of CLASH OF THE BIONOIDS. as I under-
stand it, this is, like WARRIORS OF THE WIND, cut-down from the
original by about 25%.
--- jerry
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404.44 | Sounds familiar... | HPSRAD::SAWIN | Jim Sawin, DTN 297-4933 | Fri Aug 12 1988 13:44 | 12 |
| > LAPUTA: CASTLE IN THE SKY is by the same writer/director/artist
> as NAUSICAA. It's set in what must be (but is never said to be)
> an alternate Earth. Technology in general is not as advanced as
> ours, but aeronautical technology is very advanced, helped out by
> the existence of stones that induce levitation. Laputa was a giant
> castle in the sky that had been abandoned at some point in the
> past and has passed into legend. The movie focuses upon the efforts
Wasn't Laputa the "floating land" in Jonathan Swift's _Gulliver's Travels_?
It sounds like this story was loosely based on Swift's conception...
Jim
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404.45 | | AKOV11::BOYAJIAN | Copyright � 1953 | Fri Aug 12 1988 13:54 | 9 |
| re:.44
Yes! I'd forgotten all about Swift (it's been soooooooooo long).
Thanks for the reminder.
The film isn't really "based on" Swift's Laputa, but it's almost
sure to be an intentional allusion.
--- jerry
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404.46 | Beware of Greeks baring...er, that is...bearing gifts. | OPUS::BUSCH | | Fri Aug 12 1988 19:19 | 14 |
| << LAPUTA: CASTLE IN THE SKY is by the same writer/director/artist
<< as NAUSICAA.
<
< Wasn't Laputa the "floating land" in Jonathan Swift's _Gulliver's Travels_?
< It sounds like this story was loosely based on Swift's conception...
Also, Nausica� was the name of the daughter of King Alcino�s who found Odysseus
on the beach and helped him return home in Homer's "Odyssey".
BTW, is it true that the Odyssey wasn't written by Homer but by another blind
Greek of the same name?
>@@<
>
Dave (==)
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404.47 | | AKOV11::BOYAJIAN | Copyright � 1953 | Sat Aug 13 1988 02:23 | 15 |
| �Also, Nausica� was the name of the daughter of King Alcino�s
who found Odysseus on the beach and helped him return home in
Homer's "Odyssey".�
Missed that one, too, but in this case, I don't believe I've ever
read an actual translation of "The Odyssey" (or of "The Illiad"),
but only simplified "retellings" back when I was a kid.
�BTW, is it true that the Odyssey wasn't written by Homer but
by another blind Greek of the same name?�
Not true. Both it and the "The Illiad" were actually written by
Francis Bacon.
--- jerry
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404.48 | MACROSS = Fun | SANS::WILLARD | NETsupport Maint. Mgr., Atlanta | Tue Aug 16 1988 11:08 | 4 |
| If anyone finds the english version of the MACROSS movie, Please
post how I could buy a copy. I love the paperback adaptations of
the series and thirst for as much of the animated ROBOTECH as I
can get my hands on. This stuff is great.
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404.49 | | AKOV11::BOYAJIAN | Copyright � 1953 | Tue Aug 16 1988 11:41 | 15 |
| re:.48
There's a place (relatively) near you that sells Japanese
animation stuff. It's called Wyvern Web Graphics, and it's
in Florida (don't offhand remember where). I've never dealt
with them myself, but I know a few people that have. You can
special order all sorts of things from them. One caveat though,
is that the Japanese stuff is *expensive* -- depending on what
and how long it is, it can run from $50-150 (or more). They
also carry, I believe, pre-recorded videocassettes of the
ROBOTECH series.
If you're interested, I'll try to dig up an address.
--- jerry
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404.50 | EARTH STINKS | FRSBEE::STOLOS | | Tue Aug 30 1988 13:13 | 10 |
| i don't know if this counts as sf 'toon', but has anyone seen "galaxy
high"? I thought it was entertaining each show would alway deal
in a moral theme, drugs, how money effects people,how to treat friends,
etc. the one on money impressed me the most because sometimes even
adult fall into manipulative relationships because of it. of course
all the character are stereotypes but that to be expected in a toon.
EARTH STINKS!
pete
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404.51 | Japanese immigrant anime | LINCON::WEIKERT | | Fri Oct 14 1988 22:27 | 33 |
| .26 Acutally, Macross/Southern Cross/Mospeada (aka Robotech) and
Captain Harlock and the Queen of 1000 yrs. were produced by different
people/studios...the former by Tatsunoko, and the latter I'm not
sure of off hand. Harlock and Queen of 1000 yrs. started out as
seperate shows, albeit by the same grand master, Reiji Matsumoto.
.27 GE999 is another Matsumoto work - started as a series some years
back (topped out over 100 episodes!) and there have been two feature
films...the first of which was 'translated' into English. "Joey
HannakannabobakammandaSmith" (sheesh) started out as Tetsuro Hoshino,
Maetel was Maetel, Harlock as "Captain Warlock" with a John Wayne
voice ("How bout a glass of milk, pilgrim?") and a couple of other
characters from the general Matsumoto universe...Adieu GE999 is
an even better film, although that was never translated. BTW, the
old GE999 series used to show up north around New York somewhere
with subtitles...
.33 re:Grandizer/Danguard Ace: the series (over here) was called
Force Five...several old giant-robot shows were brought over and
shown under this heading...Getta Robo G, Gaiking, Voltes V, Starzinger
(aka Spacekeeters) and others beyond my memory...
There were several other older Japanese shows brought to the US...
Battle of the Planets (Science Ninja Team GATCHAMAN), Speed Racer
(aka MACH GO GO GO...I have an old Japanese episode of
this...strange!), Tranzor Z (Mazinger Z), Voltron (Golion & Dairugger
XV), Thundersub (Blue Noah), Ulysses 31 (as itself), Astro Boy (Tetsuan
Atom), Marine Boy (original name unknown to me), 8th Man (8th Man)...
I can't recall what it was called here, but a show called Iron Man
No. 28...
Scott
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404.52 | STAR TREK Animated episodes back on Nickelodeon | RENOIR::KLAES | N = R*fgfpneflfifaL | Mon Oct 09 1989 13:31 | 10 |
| The STAR TREK Animated series, which was broadcast on NBC
television on Saturday mornings from 1973 to 1974, is being shown
again on the Nickelodeon cable network on Saturday and Sunday at
noon (12 p.m. EDT).
To read more about the Animated ST, check out Allan Asherman's
STAR TREK COMPENDIUM, available in most mass-market bookstores.
Larry
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404.53 | Hayao Miyazaki | AV8OR::REN | I will not burp in class | Fri Jun 29 1990 18:20 | 13 |
| RE .43
Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind and Laputa were both written by Hayao
Miyazaki. He also created some movies for a younger audience as well
(My Neighbor Totoro and Kiki's Delivery Service). I have Nausicaa and
Laputa on video tape. I also have translated scripts (floating around
on the networks) of both. There is a club in Boston that meets once a
month to watch films. Members can trade videotapes and there are some
vendors who show up to sell tapes at very reasonable prices. They are
called the Boston Japanimation Society (BJS).
-Eric
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404.54 | | RUBY::BOYAJIAN | A Legendary Adventurer | Tue Jul 03 1990 02:36 | 10 |
| re:.53
Yes, I've learned a fair amount in the almost 2 years since that
note was written. At this point, I have NAUSICAA, LAPUTA, TOTORO,
and KIKI on laserdisc, as well as another Miyazaki film, CASTLE
CAGLIOSTRO, and one volume of his FAMOUS DETECTIVE HOLMES series.
Miyazaki is a wonderful writer/director/animator.
--- jerry
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404.55 | English version of Macross movie | MILKWY::REN | Squash that bug!!!! | Thu Jun 06 1991 14:06 | 16 |
| RE .48
I know there is an English dubbed version of the Japanese movie Super Space
Fortress Macross available in Japan. It was made to help Japanese kids learn
English. It has Japanese subtitles. You can get it on tape from many of the
people who sell tapes at conventions and such. I know of a couple people, but
they are all up here in Boston. It is also available as an import laserdisc.
Though it won't be of much help for you, it might for others reading this note:
Sight and Sound in Waltham has a very large collection of Japanese anime
imports on laserdisc (including Akira, which will probably be the first thing
I get after I finally get a player). Also, there is a comic book store in
Nashua NH which carries some anime laserdiscs, tapes and models. I think they
might be called The Comics Store or something like that.
-Eric
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