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Title:Arcana Caelestia
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Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

285.0. "Palmer's Threshold" by SHOGUN::HEFFEL () Mon Nov 18 1985 16:10

    David R. Palmer has a new book out.  It's Threshold.  I read it pretty
much in one sitting.  I liked it.  It very reminiscent of Early Heinlein.
(Those of you who have read Emergence, his first novel, are already familiar
with the fact he shares Heinlein's love of the "competant man".  Man used
in the generic sense of course.)  
    I reccomend Threshold who have been mourning the lack of good Heinlein
or who liked Emergence.

WARNING:  This one rated high on the sequel detector meter.  It's complete
in that the immediate crisis is solved, but the larger problem still looms
on the horizon.  Normally, I wouldn't worry about this kind of thing.  (Unless
it's part of a trilogy that does not stand on it's own.)  I have a friend
who was bitching about the "cliff-hanger" that McCaffrey's Dinosaur Planet
ended with.  I reccomended that he wait for the sequel that should be coming
out soon.  Personally, I didn't mind the end of DP or Threshold.  So be warned.

tlh

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285.1EDEN::CWALSHTue Nov 19 1985 10:4514
Another cheer for this book.  I just finished reading _Threshold_. The warning
on the cover about "don't start to read this one late at night if you have to
get up in the morning" is EXTREMELY accurate.  I simply couldn't put it down! 
(And missed a staff meeting yesterday morning.  Not very professional, but
true.) 

I wasn't sure why I couldn't put it down until I read this note.  I got the 
same feeling of fire reading _Threshold_ that I did as a youngster reading 
_The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_, Harrison's _Deathworld_, Laumer's Bolo stories 
and Dickson's _The Tactics of Mistake_.  

If you liked those tales, then this one is Highly Recommended.

- Chris
285.2NUTMEG::BALSMon Nov 25 1985 12:356
I want to thank bother posters of .0 & .1 for their notes. Because of them, 
I picked up both "Emergence" and "Threshold." I'm about 1/3 of the way
through "Emergence" and if the other is near its equal, I've got some very 
enjoyable reading ahead.

Fred
285.3Where is he today?DWOVAX::YOUNGin the iron grip of bureaucracyWed Aug 09 1989 00:238
    What ever happened to David R. Palmer?!
    
    After this incredible start and the implied sequel in threshold I
    thought that we might be treated to many more such novel from him. 
    But, he seems to have sunk from the scene without a ripple.
    
    Does anyone (Jerry?) know what he is up to?  Has he published anything
    more in Analog in the past 4 years? (I don't read Analog).
285.4Lost in Sequel SpacePARITY::WUThu Aug 10 1989 19:5114
    It's a good thing that Orson Scott Card is fairly prolific because
    waiting around for Palmer is like waiting for Godot.  
    Strangely enough after reading the entries on Emergence (155) and these
    Threshold ones I disagree with the Heinlein comparisons.  Upfront I'm
    not a big Heinlein fan.  I liked him when I was in high school but
    now his style gets in the way of my enjoyment (I still like The Moon Is
    A Harsh Mistress).  The last book I read was The Number Of the Beast.
    It reminded me of Asimov and his new Foundation stuff.
    Palmer on the other hand is just fresher.  He characterizes female
    characters in a very appealing manner, that is to say not
    stereotypically (neither does Heinlein but I think he got into a rut).
    The social darwinist slant is like Heinlein but it's the execution that
    counts. Supermen can become easily tiresome so it's a thin line he
    treads.  Palmer could learn a thing or two from Stephen King though.
285.5What Palmer news I have ... not muchHYSTER::BALSdamn everything but the circusMon Aug 14 1989 13:2628
    RE: .3
    
    All of this is hearsay -- take it with a grain of salt ...
    
    After the success of the novella, "Emergence," Palmer signed a
    three-book, reportedly circa $50K, advance with Bantam. That's an
    unusually high advance for someone with no novel-length track record.
    
    Book 1 was the expansion of "Emergence," which had reasonably good
    sales and pretty good reviews. Book 2 was "Threshold," which had
    neither. Book 3 was called something like "The Infinity Box," and 
    apparently was intended as a sequel to "Threshold." The title showed
    up on Bantam's advance list for a few months, but was never released.
    Different reports have it that 1) The manuscript was never turned in
    by Palmer, or 2) Bantam didn't feel that the manuscript was
    publishable in the form it was in. If you believe 2), then the story
    extends that 3) Bantam asked for a rewrite that Palmer wasn't able
    to do, or 4) Bantam decided to cut their losses. In any case, Bantam
    did quietly sever its relationship with Palmer without comment and the 
    book was cancelled. 
    
    Palmer, as far as I know, has never been involved with fandom either
    before or during his short writing career, and I've seen no news
    of him in over two years now. I tried contacting him by letter one
    time through our mutual association with the SFWA, but never received
    an answer.
    
    Fred