Conference noted::sf

All I know is rumors. The only thing I can add about ALIEN II is what I
posted to net.movies --- that the writer/director will be James (THE
TERMINATOR) Cameron.

--- jerry

Dune is coming to Showtime in November....judy

Yes, Nov.; I forgot to mention it.  But, and maybe more importantly, 
Cinemax will show "King Kong" and "Son of Kong".   KK is advertised as 
uncut (we'll see, and can only hope).  Liking the job they did on "The 
Thing" I'm hoping the film quality is comparable.  

With any luck, the Classics will continue.

     						Don

Saw Dune.  Glad I didn't spend the bucks for the theater.  The movie could
have been done so much better.  I think Herbert saying he liked the way 
it done was pure hype.  On the other hand, Sting wasn't bad.  Sometimes 
(infrequently) I pity Movie Reviewers.

Hooray for the "classics"!

     						Don

    RE: Alien II
    
    It's due out summer of '86.  Title this time around is (kinda clever)
    "ALIENS" in which Ripley returns to the planet with a dozen Company
    marines and they meet up with all the rest of the aliens that got
    left behind.  Confirm Cameron as director.  While 'The Terminator'
    was a good movie, for my money it wasn't in the same league as Ridley
    Scott's "Alien"--does this mean Cameron's won't be either?  Holding
    my breath.  The novelization (by Alan Dean Foster, who else) is
    out but I'll wait for the film.
    
    Matt
    

    ALIENS is due out on July 18. As I understand the plot, the bit
    about Ripley going on trial for killing the rest of the crew is
    not there (unless the Company uses that as a bribe to get her to
    go back to the planet where they found the Alien. At any rate,
    again from what I understand, by the time she's made it back to
    Earth, a colony has been established on the Alien world. Ripley
    and others go back there, and as the posters put it, "This time,
    it's war!" From one article/interview with Cameron I've seen, he
    is not intending to retread Scott's film, that stylisticly, it'll
    be closer to THE TERMINATOR than to ALIEN.
    
    --- jerry

        Aliens: from the studio presentation at Boskone:
        
        At the end of Alien, Ripley put herself in freeze for the
        short trip home, hoping she'd be intercepted and rescued.
        However, she wasn't.  Now, it's something like 40 years later,
        and some scoutship runs across her.  The Nostradamus has
        become a sort of legendary "lost dutchman" among space
        travellers, and the immediate assumption is that Ripley,
        as the only survivor, was responsible for the deaths of the
        others.  Since they know all about the aliens, it's unlikely
        the company really believes this... presumably they are using
        it as a threat to force her to lead them to the planet again.
        
        In any case, they go and quickly find themselves facing hundreds
        or thousands of aliens even worse than "jaws" from the first
        movie.
        
        "And this," the presenter finished, "is the first five minutes
        of the movie".  So hold on to your lunch...
        
        	/dave

    I've read the book (both of them) and I keep wondering just what
    triggered the release of all of these aliens.  There seem to be more
    of them around than there are hosts to spawn them (remember the
    life cycle from the first book?).  Any thoughts in this?
    
    len.
    

    "The Company" knew what was out there, in in the finest tradition
    of ruthless interstellar capitalists, they may be just sending colonists
    out by the batch.
                                                                 
    Dave W.
    

From: [email protected] (Chris Ridd <RiddCJ>)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: _Wild at Heart_ (DUNE)
Date: 14 Aug 90 08:26:42 GMT
Organization: University of Birmingham, England
 
    In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Brett J.
Vickers) writes:

>I understand that the original version of Dune was something like
>6-8 hours long but had to be sliced to get it into to movie format.
>Where can I find the original-length version?  I've been wondering
>for some time now.
 
    Frank Herbert wrote about the film Dune in the introduction to a
short-story compilation of his called 'Eye'.  Basically he said that
about 5 hours were filmed, of which only 2 made it to the cinemas.
_Some_ of the scenes/plotlines that were filmed and were then cut are:
 
o Stilgar spitting on Leto's desk (gift of water)
 
o Relationship between the Shadout Mapes and Jessica
 
o Relationship between Paul and Chani
 
o Paul killing Javid and his grief at the funeral
 
o Elaboration on Kynes, and no explanation of melange's role in society
 
o Relationships between Paul and his tutors: Duncan, Thufir, Gurney and Yueh
 
o Death of Thufir Hawat
 
o Harah's relationship to Paul
 
o Scenes with Jessica and RM Mohiam on Caladan, and lots of explanations 
of the Bene Gesserits
 
  Dino (de Laurentiis) and his daughter Raffaella have talked about
restoring the out-takes and making a mini-series.  This may happen
because Dino wanted a longer film all along.
 
  There's more info in Ed Naha's book "The Making of Dune", and in
Harlan Ellison's 2-part essay in "magazine of Fantasy and Science
Fiction", neither of which I have read.
 
   Chris
 
-- Chris Ridd, Computer Science, Birmingham Uni, UK -- [email protected] --
 
  "'It's going to look pretty good, then, isn't it,' said War testily, 'the
  One Horseman and Three Pedestrians of the Apocralypse.'" - Sourcery

    Re: Note 269.1 by AKOV68::BOYAJIAN
    
>All I know is rumors. The only thing I can add about ALIEN II is what I
>posted to net.movies --- that the writer/director will be James (THE
>TERMINATOR) Cameron.
    
    Of course!  Best director around...
    
    James
    
    (ps; I haven't seen any of "my" films yet... too violent for my taste
    usually...)