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Title:Arcana Caelestia
Notice:Directory listings are in topic 2
Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

157.0. "Star Trek IV information" by CYGNUS::ARVIDSON () Mon Nov 05 1984 11:32

I attended the Star Trek Bash this weekend and was told by a member
of the Star Trek Welcommittie(SP) that STIV is on hold, here's this status...

All regulars have signed, except Shatner...
Bennett *will* write the story, someone else will write the screenplay...
Nimoy will direct...

It is on hold because Shatner wants $2,000,000.00 and 10% of the gross!

Grrr.

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157.1KAFSV2::HASIBEDERFri Nov 09 1984 18:0512
If Shatner wants that much money, let's leave him out and do the movie
anyway! They could always say he resigned his commission, and has retired
to San Francisco to continue collecting antiques.

I love ST, don't get me wrong! I'll continue watching until ST100 if they
keep it up. However, all the actors are getting on, and it's time to do
some refreshing new stuff (blowing up the Enterprise was O.K. the way it
was handled).

Wonder what the plot wil be ????

Otto.
157.2VAXWRK::MAXSONMon Nov 12 1984 17:405
	Two days after this note appeared, the AP carried exactly the same
	story about Shatner's demands. I guess you CAN believe what you read.

	Congratulations to the author of .0 - you scooped the Associated Press!
157.3LATOUR::MCCUTCHEONMon Nov 12 1984 18:489
I tend to agree.  I really like the old characters, but it bothers me
a lot to see the old "they can't possibly die, they gotta be back next
week" plot.  Spock's death was very well done, and although I enjoyed
the 3rd movie (the "bit characters" got to do some acting!) I thought it
was a cheap shot just to get Spock back.  When someone's dead, leave them
that way and get on with the story.

It would also be nice to see some of the new characters continued and
expanded.  Kirk's son is out, I hope they keep Savaak on...
157.4VAXWRK::MAXSONWed Nov 14 1984 15:027
	Was that expanded or expended?

	I agree - forget the Enterprise, forget the old characters - simply
	go to a different "Enterprise" Class ship, and get back to planetary
	exploration. I'm tired of the Klingon/Romulan/old enemy conflict
	theme.
157.5RAVEN1::HOLLABAUGHWed Nov 14 1984 16:055
   Leonard Nimoy just passed through the area and he said that they "hope to 
have a writer [For Star Trek IV] in the next 3 or 4 weeks.  We hope to shoot
the movie over next summer and then to release it sometime in 1986."

tlh
157.6NISYSW::INFINETMon Nov 19 1984 15:597
...also, Nimoy's contract stipulates that he is to recieve the same amount
that Shatner does!

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157.7EARTH::MJOHNSONWed Nov 21 1984 22:347
Gee dan,

You sure to travel. You have more accounts than *** Kristy *** !!!


:-)
MartyJ
157.8HARE::STANTue Jan 01 1985 15:322
Does that mean that if Shatner doesn't appear in the movie,
then Nimoy will work for free?
157.9NISYSW::INFINETWed Jan 02 1985 15:338
     Paramount will be releasing episodes of ST cut-up by Paramount.  They
will still offer the episodes in thier entirety.

(It's the beginning of the New Year, I have to learn to spell again)

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157.10TOPDOC::LYNCHThu Jan 03 1985 08:236
If anyone is interested, Paramount has released a bunch of film cassettes at
discount prices (low $20 range, depending on the store). The first two Star
Trek films and Raiders of the Lost Ark are among them. I bought all three.
They are good bargains for your VCR.

-- Bill
157.11CASTOR::[7,44]Thu Jan 03 1985 21:001
where did you get them in the low 20's?
157.12TOPDOC::LYNCHSun Jan 06 1985 19:2213
I picked up ST I and II at the Video Biz store in Nashua for $24.95 each. 
(Warning: They didn't have them in stock. I had to wait several days for them
to be delivered from somewhere.)

I saw an ad for Osco Drugs (everyone is getting in the video business!) listing
these for $21.95 each.

This is a special promotion by Paramount. There are about 20 films listed
at the "under $25" price, including "Time Bandits" and "Airplane".

Check it out. It's a good deal!

-- Bill
157.13TOPDOC::LYNCHMon Jan 07 1985 10:4814
The following just came off the USENET net.startrek mailing.

-- Bill

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I just read in VARIETY that Paramount is going to release STAR TREK III in
February for a suggested retail price of (get this!) $29.95.  In addition, they
will be releasing the episodes, in order, for a suggested retail price of
$14.95 each!  (One to a T-60 VHS tape, I presume, as opposed to the
two-per-tape previous method.)

					Evelyn C. Leeper
					...{ihnp4, houxm, hocsj}!ahuta!ecl
157.14EARTH::MJOHNSONMon Jan 07 1985 15:497
re:.12

I guess they are finally finding out that most people will not pay the 
outrageous prices ($80-$120) for a movie that, if they wait a couple of 
months, can tape off of HBO or CIMEMAX for the cost of a tape.

MartyJ
157.15AKOV68::BOYAJIANWed Jan 09 1985 10:0017
re:.14

Actually, most of the movies that Paramount is now selling at ~$24 are ones
that were originally sold for ~$40 (The noticible exception is DRAGONSLAYER,
which originally went for ~$60). Paramount gambled that by dropping the price
significantly (by half!), the sales would increase in proportion to the
rentals. And they were right. While many of the others big studios haven't
fully gone along with this yet, some have been issuing some of their titles
at the lower price.
	What it all comes down to, really, is: it depends on the movie. Some
are worth spending $80 on, some aren't (THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, in Hi-Fi,
was *definitely* worth the price --- even if I got the Movie Channel in
stereo, and TMC carried TESB, I'd never get as good a copy). Plus, in some
cases (RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK comes to mind), the movie is released on
cassette a full *year* ahead of its appearance on cable.

--- jerry
157.16AKOV68::BOYAJIANWed Jan 09 1985 10:156
A point of clarification on my previous comment (.14). When I said that
Paramount gambled on trying to increase the proportion of sales to rentals
by dropping the price in half, I meant from the previous "norm" of $80 to
$40, not form the "Paramount norm" of $40 to their sale price of $24.

--- jerry
157.17TOPDOC::LYNCHWed Jan 09 1985 15:085
At lunch today I asked the people at Video Biz in Nashua about the release
of Star Trek III on cassette. They said that it is true. The release date is
February 25th and the suggested retail price is $29.95.

-- Bill
157.18BAILEY::RCODYERTue Jan 29 1985 15:455
	Sources I know on Compuserve tell me that the dispute between Paramount
	and Shatner have been resolved,with Shatner agreeing to do ST4.Has any
	one else heard of this?

						Bob