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Title:Arcana Caelestia
Notice:Directory listings are in topic 2
Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

83.0. "X-1 again?" by MANANA::DICKSON () Mon Jun 04 1984 13:54

"X minus one" was mentioned in a previous note.  This was a radio program
done by NBC and Galaxy magazine.  They took short stories by regular
authors, and adapted them to radio.  Seems popular among those who have
heard it.  Could it be done again? 

Suggestions, please, for the raw material.  Here are some guidelines:

	The adapted story must fill about 25 minutes.  Some programs
	could be 2 or three shorties.  A complete episode must
	EXACTLY fill 29 minutes, including introductory music and
	announcing, credits, etc.

	The story must be conveyed mostly in dialogue.  A narrator
	is allowed, but should be kept to a minimum.  Descriptions
	of action must be translatable into dialogue (or monologue)
	and sound effects.

Anybody know what the royalty payments come to for this kind of stuff,
assuming the production was done for public radio?
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83.1PNEUMA::MCVAYWed Jun 06 1984 07:3519
 Hum...your request was kind of cryptic...

 If you are referring to royalty payments to release previous episodes,
there shouldn't be a problem: there probably AREN'T any royalties, except
for a one-time license fee.  It wasn't until the 60's that actors and
their agents managed to get anything at all on reruns.  That's why "I love
Lucy" repeats ran for so long--the show was a freebie for the stations.

 If you are referring to starting a whole new series, then that's a
complete production item, and you'll run into all kinds of things: the
producers of the original show still own the copyright to the title "X - 1",
and then you will have to pay license fees to authors, actors, etc.--and
now will have to pay for reruns also.

 Are you trying to gather original stories for a net version of "X - 1"?
That is different, and should be interesting.  In that case, you are
really asking for Frederick Brown's "short-short" stories: 400 words or less
and must be a complete story.  I always wanted to see some real writing on
the net (aside from HHGttN and similar sinoffs).
83.2MANANA::DICKSONWed Jun 06 1984 12:4837
Not on the net; on the radio.  I don't mean rebroadcasting old X-1
episodes; I mean making a new series.  It doesn't have to be called X-1.  I
am not saying we could do this yet - just evaluating possibilities.  Some
people I have mentioned this to said they would be interested. If there is
a groundswell of support, I'll write up a detailed proposal, but in the
meantime here is what I had in mind: 

SF fans on the net can participate by suggesting stories.  The rewriting
can be decentralized.  If we get some good stories (a series is usually 13
episodes, just like on TV), then a call goes out for acting volunteers. 

The acting part would have to be a bit more restricted geographically, as
the people have to get together to record the dialogue.  Sound effects and
music are added in post-production.  If enough people want to participate,
different scripts could be done by groups in different locations and the 
dialogue tapes mailed back.  Each "recording group" needs a director,
and the directors will have to communicate so that there is some coherence 
in the programs.

The recording of dialogue can be done in people's homes, or in the studio.
The studio I have access to is in Concord, NH, so doing the dialogue first
on cassettes is probably easiest, using home stereo equipment.  Saves a lot
of travelling.  Then we add in sound effects from records or home-built
effects, and the theme and incidental music, announcing, re-timing, etc, in
the studio. 

Not something I want to give up my weekends for, at least in the summer.
But if we do the paper-work now, we might be in a position to begin
recording when the weather gets bad again this fall. 

I was told informally that the radio station would not charge for use of
the studio if they got a free program out of it.  If it was good enough,
they might also be able to sell the program to other stations.  We are in
it just for the fun.  The only big cost I don't know about is permission
from, and royalties to, the original authors. 

	Paul "the pictures are better on radio" Dickson
83.3BESSIE::JELICHThu Jun 07 1984 21:583
I've seen some Traveller games recorded.  That might be a good source of
stories (or other role play games).  The actors are all there, just
music and sound effects and editing of die roles need be done.
83.4ATFAB::WYMANSat Jun 09 1984 20:454
Paul,
	You've worked in radio before right? This is a real request?

		bob wyman
83.5MANANA::DICKSONMon Jun 11 1984 10:044
This is a real request.  I haven't done radio plays, but I have
(and still do) work in radio.  Quite a few people seem to have
that experience.  (See TRIVA.NOT for details)  Mostly in news
and music, though, not plays.