| From: US2RMC::"[email protected]" "Jon Callas" 23-FEB-1994 13:31:43.12
To: [email protected]
CC:
Subj: Riddle -- Why is R. A. Wilson like Mark Twain? Answer within.
[Editor's note: Alan Martin sent me mail saying that he had heard that
Wilson is in fact *not* dead. He's been good enough to surf the following
information for me. I have edited out duplicated entries of the previous
obit. Note in the below there is a FOAF denial from R.U. Serius (who spoke
to Leary who spoke to Wilson, as quoted here), and a report of a personal
phone call from Arthur Hlavaty. Personally, while I might raise an eyebrow
at a FOAF report from anyone, I'll take Uncle Arthur's word for it.
--jdcc]
Article 6286 of alt.discordia:
From: [email protected] (Childers James)
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Subject: RAWilson dead!
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 20:59:22 EST
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_Noted Sci-Fi Author Found Dead in Home_
(From the Feb 22 Los Angeles Times)
Noted science fiction author Robert Anton Wilson was
found dead in his home yesterday, apparently the victim
of a heart attack. Mr. Wilson, 63, was discovered by
his wife, Arlen.
Mr. Wilson was the author of numerous books, including
the co-authorship of the cult classic _The Illuminatus!
Trilogy_. He was noted for his libertarian viewpoints,
love of technology, and off the wall humor. During his
lifetime he authored more than 20 books.
Mr. Wilson is survived by his wife and two children.
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Article 6310 of alt.discordia:
From: [email protected] (Denis Moskowitz)
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Subject: Re: RAWilson dead!
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 18:18:06 EST
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In article <ic58.761882362@jove>, Childers James <[email protected]> wrote:
>_Noted Sci-Fi Author Found Dead in Home_
>(From the Feb 22 Los Angeles Times)
I'm in Claremont, California, and we get the LA Times.
This message (the obit) was posted on Feb 21.
Neither the Feb 21 nor the Feb 22 LA Times had any obituaries like this.
Childers James, where did you get your information?
Can anyone back him up?
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Article 6314 of alt.discordia:
From: "Jeff X. Mink" <[email protected]>
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 21:37:27 -0500
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> Noted science fiction author Robert Anton Wilson was
> found dead in his home yesterday, apparently the victim
> of a heart attack. Mr. Wilson, 63, was discovered by
> his wife, Arlen.
APPARENTLY the victim of a heart attack. That's exactly what THEY want
us to believe.
Mentally Yours,
Jeff Mink
The Scourge of the Galaxy
High Priest of the Church of Harmonic Chaos
Article 6309 of alt.discordia:
From: [email protected] (Arthur Hlavaty)
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Subject: Robert Anton Wilson dead?
Date: 22 Feb 1994 19:05:08 -0500
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I just spoke with Robert Anton Wilson, who denies that he is dead.
I believe him, but I'm pretty gullible.
--
Arthur D. Hlavaty [email protected]
"The Mason's face is ajar."--Firesign Theater
Article 1729 of alt.illuminati:
From: [email protected] (Ron Hale-Evans)
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Subject: Robert Anton Wilson dead
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I am sad. The man who convinced me that I needn't die seems to be
dead. I really hope this is a cruel joke, but it has the ring of
authenticity. Can anyone who gets the Los Angeles Times confirm that
this article appeared in it?
I hope Wilson provided for his cryonic suspension, but when I heard
him talk a couple of years ago, he said, with an expression of great
weariness, "Sooner or later you have to realise that we all have to
die," and declined to comment on his suspension plans or lack thereof.
What follows is a repost from alt.discordia.
Ron Hale-Evans
[email protected]
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From: [email protected] (Alan Greig)
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Ron
Hale-Evans) writes:
> I am sad. The man who convinced me that I needn't die seems to be
> dead. I really hope this is a cruel joke, but it has the ring of
> authenticity. Can anyone who gets the Los Angeles Times confirm that
> this article appeared in it?
Well I reckon that if we all choose to believe the post is a hoax
then he's still alive. It's obviously just a failed magickal attempt
to convince us to write ourselves into a reality in which Wilson
is dead. Don't let it work!
Still a quick check of newsfeeds (not as in Usenet) on CompuServe
finds nothing.
> From: [email protected] (Childers James)
> Newsgroups: alt.discordia
> Subject: RAWilson dead!
> Date: 22 Feb 94 01:59:22 GMT
There was a "keyword: Fnord!" as well...
>
> _Noted Sci-Fi Author Found Dead in Home_
> (From the Feb 22 Los Angeles Times)
Well has anyone else read this?
--
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From: [email protected] (Edson Smith)
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In article <[email protected]>,
Ron Hale-Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am sad. The man who convinced me that I needn't die seems to be
>dead. I really hope this is a cruel joke, but it has the ring of
>authenticity. Can anyone who gets the Los Angeles Times confirm that
>this article appeared in it?
I checked the Westside edition of the Los Angeles Times, and there was no
mention of this in the obituary section. Fnord.
Edson Smith
[email protected]
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From: [email protected] (Hello)
Subject: Re: Robert Anton Wilson dead
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Edson
Smith) writes...
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Ron Hale-Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I am sad. The man who convinced me that I needn't die seems to be
>>dead. I really hope this is a cruel joke, but it has the ring of
>>authenticity. Can anyone who gets the Los Angeles Times confirm that
>>this article appeared in it?
>
>I checked the Westside edition of the Los Angeles Times, and there was no
>mention of this in the obituary section. Fnord.
>
>Edson Smith
>[email protected]
Well, R. A. Wilson is slated to lead a discussion at the Association for
Consciousness Exploration WinterStar 1994 symposium at Atwood Lake this
February 24-27, and death usually has a nasty way of cancelling some people's
lecture plans. I think the rumours of his death have been greatly exaggerated.
Jeremy Tenenbaum
[email protected]
Article 1740 of alt.illuminati:
From: [email protected] (SCOTT FRANK HARRIS)
Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.illuminati,alt.slack,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.cryonics
Subject: Re: Robert Anton Wilson dead
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 23:05:48 EST
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[duplicates of previous Hale-Evans and Childers James articles removed -- jdcc]
This is horrible, horrible!! Alas, our world has lost another genius....
/^\
/ ___ \
/ <_O_> \
/Scott Harris \
/ [email protected] \
/ Wisdom, Strength & \
/_____________Beauty______\
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From: [email protected] (STella)
Subject: Re: Robert Anton Wilson dead
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ron
Hale-Evans) writes:
>I am sad. The man who convinced me that I needn't die seems to be
>dead.
Rumors of his death seem to be greatly exaggerated. A friend of mine
relayed this post to the well, RUSirius called Leary, Leary called
Wilson, and Wilson reports that he seems not to be dead.
Another tacky net.hoax.
[email protected] [email protected]
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will touch us, and we will go on, because everything within me is sacred.
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From: [email protected] (Sri Palindrome.151)
Subject: Re: Robert Anton Wilson dead
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SCOTT FRANK HARRIS ([email protected]) wrote:
: This is horrible, horrible!! Alas, our world has lost another genius....
No, it hasn't. He's still as alive as he has been for years.
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"He's dead, Jim."
"He's not dead! He's just pining for the fnords!"
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From: [email protected] (Dan Levy)
Newsgroups: alt.illuminati
Subject: Robert Anton Wilson *not*, in fact, dead
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>From the WELL:
1440, 284 of 292: RUSirius (rusirius) Tue, Feb 22, 1994 (14:29) 4
I just got a call from Tim Leary who just spoke with Robert Anton Wilson.
Wilson said that he's never felt better and quoted Mark Twain: "Rumors of
my
death have been greatly exaggerated>
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Dan Levy Levity: New York City
[email protected]
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:03:11 UTC
Subject: THE CIA KILLED ROBERT ANTON WILSON
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On February 21, 1994, noted science-fiction author and libertarian
activist Robert Anton Wilson was found dead in his home, apparently
of a heart attack (see the Los Angeles Times, Feb. 22). His
death had come unexpectedly, and there had been no signs of ill health
beforehand.
Wilson did not die of natural causes. He was assassinated.
Earlier on that day, Wilson was injected with a time-delay poison
based on shellfish toxin, by an agent of the CIA's special
SUPER-SECRET BLACK OPERATIONS SQUAD, using a special microscopic
needle made of a plastic which dissolves in the body without a
trace. Wilson's body had been immediately taken and cremated and
the usuial step of an autopsy had been bypassed, ON ORDERS FROM
ABOVE.
It is clear why the power$ that be wanted Wilson dead.
Wilson was a dangerous element; the governments can only govern
if the majority does not question the system (whoever currently
"rules" does not matter). The troublesome minority can be dealt
with discreetly, by means of EXECUTIVE ACTION (assassination),
which is what happened with Wilson. Wilson gained too wide an
audience, and his anti-statist, anti-government, pro-drug
views were becoming too accepted. He had to be killed.
Earlier the same agencies (the CIA, NRO, DEA and CFR/TLC/Bilderberg
BOLSHEVIK SHADOW GOVERNMENT) had LSD/mind-expansion advocate Dr.
Timothy Leary "neutralised" by injecting him with a neurotoxin
which DESTROYS THE MIND, and ARTIFICIALLY INDUCES A STATE
SIMILAR TO SENILITY. This form of chemical lobotomy has been used on
dissidents for some time and has served the power$-that-be well.
They have the means to induce psychosic, suicidal/homicidal
tendencies, paranoia, religious fervor and madness in
dissidents by chemical means (MK-ULTRA and other CLA$$IFIED
PROJECT$).
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From: [email protected] (Alan Greig)
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Subject: Re: THE CIA KILLED ROBERT ANTON WILSON
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] writes:
>
> On February 21, 1994, noted science-fiction author and libertarian
> activist Robert Anton Wilson was found dead in his home, apparently
> of a heart attack (see the Los Angeles Times, Feb. 22). His
> death had come unexpectedly, and there had been no signs of ill health
> beforehand.
Oh come on now. If you're going to perpetuate the wind-up at least
have the courage to put your own name behind it.
"Air force captures flying disk", see lots of newspapers 1947.
And unlike your fiction these headlines really appeared.
In any case Robert Anton Wilson's death would be a bit like that
of old Ben Kenobi when he was struck down by Darth Vader a long
time ago...
Maybe...
RAW is alive and well. Verify it by telepathy.
FNORD.
--
Alan Greig Janet: [email protected]
Dundee Institute of Technology Internet: [email protected]
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-- Pavlov's dog: the runt of the litter? --
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From: mc/G=Brad/S=Hicks/[email protected]
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Subject: RAWilson =NOT= Dead
Date: 22 Feb 1994 17:16:11 -0600
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Subj: RAWilson =NOT= Dead
Tuesday February 22nd 1994 5:00 pm CST: I just got off the phone with CC
at the Association for Consciousness Exploration, and this morning's
message in alt.slack and alt.discordia, a forged obit from the LA Times,
is a cruel, cruel hoax. As of about 15 minutes ago, CC tells me that Bob
Wilson is alive and well, and still planning on attending this weekend's
WinterStar.
Hoax obits, especially for one of the leading figures in American religion
and philosophy today, are a particularly disgusting and cruel form of
prank.
J. Brad Hicks Internet: [email protected]
X.400: c=US admd=ATTMail prmd=MasterCard sn=Hicks gn=Brad
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<mc/G=Brad/S=Hicks/[email protected]> writes:
>message in alt.slack and alt.discordia, a forged obit from the LA Times,
>is a cruel, cruel hoax. As of about 15 minutes ago, CC tells me that Bob
>Wilson is alive and well, and still planning on attending this weekend's
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ There was probably a 50-50 chance of him actually
being dead or alive... Of course, until somebody actually perceived his
body, it would be neither alive, nor dead, but both.
MasterMind
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