| Title: | -={ H A C K E R S }=- |
| Notice: | Write locked - see NOTED::HACKERS |
| Moderator: | DIEHRD::MORRIS |
| Created: | Thu Feb 20 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Mon Aug 03 1992 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 680 |
| Total number of notes: | 5456 |
157 mentioned that the PCDRIVER allows eavesdropping another terminal. Could someone please give some detail about how one actually can do the eavesdropping once DTM is installed ? Also, I've noticed I can say $ open channel PTY: at dcl. Is this useful ? If so, can someone explain how I might follow this with READ and WRITE to actually do stuff ? /Eric
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| 166.1 | SPRITE::OSMAN | Fri Oct 11 1985 09:25 | 18 | ||
When rereading my own note, I realize people might not get the jist. The main thing I'm interested in *isn't* eavesdropping at all. I'm interested in how I might use dcl's OPEN, READ, and WRITE to a pty in order to control things like VNOTES, PHONE, and VTX from a .COM file, even a .COM file running under batch ! I've got one working (see tool ALLTALK), but it currently uses PTYCON which requires the user's password. I'd love to have a version that doesn't require a password. I've heard rumors that I can somehow use DTM or even PTY's directly from dcl, but I still don't know how. Stan ? Anyone ? thanks /Eric | |||||
| 166.2 | TOOLS::STAN | Sat Oct 12 1985 16:41 | 2 | ||
Do you need to read back from the DCL subprocess or would it be good enough if you could just send input to the subprocess? | |||||
| 166.3 | SPRITE::OSMAN | Mon Oct 14 1985 10:21 | 15 | ||
I need to read back too. My main interest right now is VNOTES. I want to write EXTRACT/SINCE=date/OUT=file and read back to see whether I get Messages written or Error extracting messages /Eric | |||||
| 166.4 | SPRITE::OSMAN | Thu Oct 17 1985 16:36 | 28 | ||
My current setup is:
$ <create two mailboxes, tin: and tout:>
$ spawn/nowait ptycon attach foo/input=tin:/photo=tout:
$ open terminal_input tin:
$ open terminal_output tout:
:
:
Now my .COM file can type input at the ptycon subjob by saying
$ write terminal_input text
and can read back echoes, prompts, outputs, with
$ read terminal_output variable
The problem is, the first terminal input I specify has to be username
and password.
I'd *love* to avoid this necessity. Supposedly there's a version of
ptycon lurking that allows /SUBPROCESS which causes the ptycon subjob
to really be a subprocess instead of a separate job. Does anyone know
where I can get this PTYCON ?
or can DTM be used somehow instead of PTYCON in order to avoid password ?
/Eric
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| 166.5 | LATOUR::AMARTIN | Fri Oct 18 1985 19:46 | 5 | ||
I believe that on both Tops-10 and Tops-20 that LOGIN doen't require the password when the subjob is logging in to an account that the controlling job is already logged in to. Perhaps you should send in a suggestion SPR (before one of our PDP-10 customers beats you to it). /AHM | |||||