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| 85.1 | | --UnknownUser-- | | Mon Jan 07 1985 01:28 | 0 |
| 85.2 | | --UnknownUser-- | | Mon Jan 07 1985 01:28 | 0 |
| 85.3 | | HARE::STAN | | Mon Jan 07 1985 01:28 | 8 |
| Re .0 and .1:
Your use of the term "hacking" is misleading and derogatory.
I do a lot of hacking at DEC, and am proud of it.
Most hackers are not criminals.
Perhaps you should use the term "cracking" or "criminally hacking".
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| 85.4 | | EDSVAX::CRESSEY | | Mon Jan 07 1985 06:48 | 6 |
| I believe I have witnessed the coining of a term. So be it.
From now on, criminal hacking of a system will be referred to
as "cracking the system". The other etymology of "like cracking
a safe" will keep the philologists off our trails for years.
Dave
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| 85.5 | | SERPNT::GULDENSCHUH | | Mon Jan 07 1985 12:22 | 3 |
| Stan (and anyone else offended), please accept my apology. No offense intended.
/s/ Chuck
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| 85.6 | | HARE::STAN | | Tue Jan 08 1985 01:29 | 1 |
| You had no need to apologize.
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| 85.7 | | ROYCE::KENNEDY | | Tue Jan 08 1985 09:56 | 8 |
| Back in the days of yore, many customers had access to the net.
One apparently found out about the VAX 11/782 several years in
advance of its appearance. By the time I heard about it (before
I came here), the Multi-processor 780 with shared memory was
being discussed all over the place - long before any
announcements.
Hugh.
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| 85.8 | | LATOUR::AMARTIN | | Tue Jan 08 1985 16:34 | 5 |
| Re .4:
The term "cracker" has been used by other people before this, even in
this file.
/AHM
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| 85.9 | | SPRITE::MCVAY | | Thu Jan 10 1985 20:36 | 16 |
| Back to the original point: there have been cracker cases--many of
them. I suspect that they aren't as widely publicized because they
aren't as good a news story. No one regards it as unusual or
particularly noteworthy if a highly-trained technician/professional
manages to crack the system--who's better qualified? But a 14-year-
old with a scrap-built system that brings a whole corporation/hospital/
government facility to its knees: now THAT'S news!!
Footnote: one of the famous myths about criminals is that the good
ones are eventually hired by law-enforcement agencies because of their
expert knowledge; so safecrackers become security experts,
counterfeiters are assigned to the bunko squad, etc. However, the
"cracker" stories are true--there are several (I have heard of at
least four) corporate hackers who were caught and the companies agreed
not to prosecute if the hackers went to work for them on security.
There was a story about one of these on TV a few years back.
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| 85.10 | | LATOUR::AMARTIN | | Fri Jan 11 1985 09:30 | 6 |
| I had my first exposure to computers sharing a KA10 using ASR33's in
high school on Long Island. The BOCES/LIRICS voc-ed timesharing system
had a policy of hiring students who broke in to the machine as operator/
systems programmers. At least one such person (not me) is working
for DEC right now in software engineering.
/AHM
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