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| 1082.1 | Press info, from Vidiot | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Thu Mar 27 1997 10:25 | 55 |
| Ties of Blood and Water
Episode #117
Production #517
SPELLINGS
[none]
CAST
Captain Benjamin Sisko Avery Brooks
Odo Rene Auberjonois
Lieutenant Commander Worf Michael Dorn
Lieutenant Commander Jadzia
Dax Terry Farrell
Jake Sisko Cirroc Lofton
Chief Operations Officer
Miles O'Brien Colm Meaney
Quark Armin Shimerman
Dr. Julian Bashir Alexander Siddig
Major Kira Nerys Nana Visitor
GUEST STARS
as
[Tekeny] Ghemor Lawrence Pressman
as
Gul Dukat Marc Alaimo
Taban Thomas Kopache
Furel William Lucking
as
Weyoun Jeffrey Combs
Teleplay by: Robert Hewitt Wolfe
Written by: Edmund Newton &
Robbin L. Slocum
Directed by: Avery Brooks
PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS
STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE: "Ties of Blood and Water" - The imminent
death of Kira's Cardassian "father" rekindles memories of losing her
real father.
TV GUIDE AD
FORGIVE - OR FORGET?
Can Kira put aside her own hatred
to help her dying Cardassina "father"?
TV LOG LISTING
Kira's Cardassian "father" is dying/STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE.
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| 1082.2 | | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Mon Apr 21 1997 12:33 | 25 |
| I'm on the fence about this one. I thought Kira's performance was well done,
and it was a good showcase for her. The main story line was plausible and
reasonably well executed. The comparisons between Ghemor and Kira's father
were also good. But...
Spoilers...
Some of the motivations seemed extremely weak to me. I had some trouble with
Kira's fawning over Ghemor at the beginning, her abrupt change of heart in the
middle over insufficient grounds, and her resumption of the fawning at the end.
I don't know what it is to lose people I know personally in a war, so perhaps I
don't fully appreciate the emotions involved, but the fact that Ghemor had been
a young soldier who participated in a major battle during the war didn't seem
enough reason to cut off all contact. I know there were other reasons, but
that scene as it was done just seemed weak.
I know Kira fought long and hard in the resistance movement, so perhaps it is
understandable that she gets so angry at anyone who had anything directly to do
with the Cardassian forces in any way, but I wish they'd bring out the
emotional conflict a bit better. As is, it looks like it's supposed to be
completely obvious why she reacts the way she does, and it isn't, at least to
me.
Brian
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| 1082.3 | A humourous scene ... | LABC::HA | | Mon Apr 21 1997 17:44 | 11 |
| Is it Weyoun who works with the Founders? I must say I was rolling in
laughter when he picked up the poisonous drink, quaffs it, and then
says "My that is quite toxic, isn't it?" and Gul Ducat (sp?) exclaims
"Are you insane?" or something to that effect and then Weyoun explains
that his race is immune to most toxins. A minor nit - of course, how
does he know which poisons he is resistant to? ;-) Also, if the whole
race is cloned or a substantial portion, this would seem to put an an
end any evolution on his planet(s) ...
Michael
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| 1082.4 | can't wait to see Dukat drop from power like a rock | APLVEW::DEBRIAE | language by declaration | Tue Apr 22 1997 12:05 | 7 |
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This one didn't do it for me. I like Kira but just couldn't get into
this episode. Yet another bland DS9 experience for me.
The only portion I enjoyed featured Weyoun, he's a great character, and
fun too. I hope we see more of him...
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| 1082.5 | | skylab.zko.dec.com::FISHER | Gravity: Not just a good idea. It's the law! | Tue Apr 22 1997 13:24 | 11 |
| I've got to say that I liked Dukat much better as an ambiguous figure of mixed
nobility and scumballness than I do now in his traitor/dictator role.
I've also not figured out the Vorta. Maybe I missed the episode where they were
introduced. Does anyone have a pointer? I really didn't like this one as much
as I liked the female Vorta in "The Ship". Now *she* was a good character (even
though I still did not really understand her relationship to the Founders).
But I liked the episode pretty well. Nothing special, but ok.
Burns
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| 1082.6 | | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Tue Apr 22 1997 14:44 | 11 |
| >> I've got to say that I liked Dukat much better as an ambiguous figure of mixed
>> nobility and scumballness than I do now in his traitor/dictator role.
I concur. I liked the ambiguity. I've always liked when they take a
reprehensible bad guy and show his or her side of the argument.
>> skylab.zko.dec.com::FISHER "Gravity: Not just a goo"
Do you realize this is how your PN comes out in an 80-column CCT Notes window?
Brian
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| 1082.7 | It resonated with me | CMOS6::TSUK | Michael Tsuk | Tue Apr 22 1997 15:48 | 13 |
| Spoilers...
Re: .2
> Some of the motivations seemed extremely weak to me. I had some
> trouble with Kira's fawning over Ghemor at the beginning, her abrupt
> change of heart in the middle over insufficient grounds, and her
> resumption of the fawning at the end.
Actually, this resonated with me. Making excuses to avoid watching
someone die is something that I understand very well. :-(
The change of heart in the middle was over insufficient grounds, and
Odo helped Kira to realize that. I thought it was very well done.
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| 1082.8 | | ILLUSN::SORNSON | Are all your pets called 'Eric'? | Tue Apr 22 1997 16:03 | 5 |
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>I've got to say that I liked Dukat much better as an ambiguous figure of mixed
>nobility and scumballness than I do now in his traitor/dictator role.
Anyone taking bets that Dukat is now a changeling?
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