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1070.1 | Press info, from Vidiot | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Mon Jan 27 1997 09:37 | 45 |
| For The Uniform
Episode #111
Production #511
SPELLINGS
Malinche
CAST
Captain Benjamin Sisko Avery Brooks
Odo Rene Auberjonois
Lieutenant Commander Worf Michael Dorn
Lieutenant Commander Jadzia Dax Terry Farrell
Jake Sisko Cirroc Lofton
Chief Operations Officer Miles O'Brien Colm Meaney
Quark Armin Shimerman
Dr. Julian Bashir Alexander Siddig
Major Kira Nerys Nana Visitor
GUEST STARS
[Michael] Eddington Kenneth Marshall
[Captain] Sanders Eric Pierpoint
Nog Aron Eisenberg
Written by: Peter Allan Fields
Directed by: Victor Lobel
PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS
STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE: "For the Uniform" - Sisko risks everything to
capture a former crew member who deceived him and joind the Maguis.
TV GUIDE AD
VENDETTA!
He betrayed Starfleet.
He embarrassed Sisko.
How far will the Captain go for revenge?
TV LOG LISTING
Sisko risks all in deadly vendetta/STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE.
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1070.2 | Great episode! | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Mon Feb 10 1997 11:30 | 35 |
| Great episode! Wonderful performance by Sisko, Eddington. Well done.
That new holo-communicator thingie is interesting; I'm curious what the
advantages are supposed to be. The major distinctions I can see are: Only view
one person, can't see the whole bridge; 3-D view of something that is brought
into scope. The former seems more useful than the latter, and could perhaps be
a disadvantage.
Spoilers...
I kind of thought Sisko would manage to bring him in, but I wasn't sure if they
were going to keep that plot line going longer and have him get away at the
end. That added to the suspense for me.
Dax's actions were curious in this episode. She seemed amused at Sisko's
behavior rather than alarmed or sobered. It seemed like almost a fun adventure
for her than a serious combat action.
The manual setting of the navigation parameters was done very nicely; it really
sounded cumbersome but expertly handled.
I wonder how much trouble Sisko will get into as a result of this?
I *really* liked the psychological interplay between Sisko and Eddington, their
analysis of each other, their explanation of their own and the other person's
motives. Sisko's solution really surprised me, I thought it was going to end
up being a bluff or an illusion. Credit to Avery Brooks, he really carried the
heavy personal frustration and humiliation aspect of the role.
The military aspect of Starfleet is never more apparent than when the crew
carries out orders that they strongly disagree with; Worf did the good soldier
bit very well in this episode.
Brian
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1070.3 | | CSC32::HADDOCK | Pas Fini! | Mon Feb 10 1997 14:50 | 6 |
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Did anyone else find that they tended to be more sympathetic to
Eddington and the Marquis(sp) than Sisco?
fred();
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1070.4 | | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Mon Feb 10 1997 16:17 | 13 |
| >> Did anyone else find that they tended to be more sympathetic to
>> Eddington and the Marquis(sp) than Sisco?
(It's "Maquis." I don't know why they use a French-like spelling, it's
confusing.)
I thought they did a good job of trying to make both sides sound plausible.
Sisko's speech about Eddington not leaving Star Fleet was crucial, and well
done. Also the one about the false hopes of the refugees. Perhaps, given the
typical view of Starfleet being infallible and always in the right, having
something of an attempt at a equal view seemed lopsided the other way.
Brian
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1070.5 | | MAIL1::LOCOVARE | Resistance is Futile | Tue Feb 11 1997 09:44 | 7 |
| I am sick of the Macquis...surprised to see it brought back up.
I quess on Voyager where they are all friendly..seemed to
make a conflict with this episode in my mind.
Slept thru the end..
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1070.6 | | DELNI::OTA | | Tue Feb 11 1997 13:29 | 12 |
| I find the morality of the Maquis as wrong as the borg. Yes
the Cardassians government is warlike, but various episodes about the
Cardassians shows they have a less agressive even human like side. Ie
episodes that show how much they care for their children etc. For the
Maquis to justify killing planets for past injustices makes as much
sense as terrorists bombings for God.
As far as I am concerned they are worse than their enemies.
Brian
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1070.7 | | CSC32::HADDOCK | Pas Fini! | Tue Feb 11 1997 15:53 | 7 |
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> but various episodes about the
> Cardassians shows they have a less agressive even human like side.
Next week's episode may seriously impact that opinion.
fred();
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1070.8 | | SKYLAB::FISHER | Gravity: Not just a good idea. It's the law! | Wed Feb 12 1997 12:21 | 21 |
| Personally, I like Maquis episodes a lot. It seems very realistic, makes it
clear that everyone (except Bad Guys) is not Federation Rah Rah, and makes
everything less black and white. I think that is one of the strengths of DS9
in general is that there are more shades of gray than there ever were on TNG or
especially TOS.
I was pretty shocked that Sisko would actually poison a Maquis planet (what are
the Maquis doing "owning" a planet, anyway?). And he only did *one* planet,
right? Didn't it say at the end that the Cards and the Maqs were exchanging
two planets? Hmmm.
I don't particularly like the holocom gadget. Why bother?
And finally, I *loved* the manual com, especially when they were pulling away
from the station (not so much the "close encounter", but the dialog). I got
goose bumps hearing all the cool commands. That said, I'm not really clear on
how Nog was able to communicate with the engine room if no one else could.
Regardless, though, I thought Nog did a creditable job with a kind of nothing
part.
Burns
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1070.9 | But I always like it. | SALEM::LEMAY | | Wed Feb 12 1997 12:46 | 3 |
| I also liked this show and thought the manual part was realistic until
when Dax made the last minute maneuver to clear the pilon. Yea right!
Oh, a pilon. Man, the skills these Fed have.
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1070.10 | "Full stop. Aye!" | KEPTIN::GRANOFF | Keptin! Klingon wessel decloaking... | Wed Feb 12 1997 15:59 | 31 |
| Yes, yes, I agree, it was a very good episode.
Re: .8
>And finally, I *loved* the manual com, especially when they were pulling away
>from the station (not so much the "close encounter", but the dialog). I got
>goose bumps hearing all the cool commands.
Yes! Me too! It reminded me of an old submarine movie:
Capt: "Ten degree down bubble!" (presumably to XO)
XO: "Helm! Ten degree down bubble!" (presumably to Helm)
Helm: "Ten degree down bubble! Aye!"
I just love that stuff. :-)
>That said, I'm not really clear on
>how Nog was able to communicate with the engine room if no one else could.
Clearly, Nog was chosen because of his special Ferengi ability (and with
those ears) to discern sounds even in the midst of a great din -- like
battle. I think O'Brien alluded to this when explaining it to Sisco, but I
didn't think it wasn't obvious at all (at the time) why Nog -- a cadet! --
would get this important task.
While it is reasonable to assume that a special or secondary comm gadget
was used between Nog and Engineering, I think I even saw Nog speaking into
something, possibly pinned to his jersey. He was certainly turning his head
before speaking in some scenes.
-Mark
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1070.11 | | POLAR::RICHARDSON | Patented Problem Generator | Wed Feb 12 1997 17:08 | 1 |
| It's a good thing Quark wasn't there to egg Nog on.
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1070.12 | | PTOSS1::BRUNSON | | Wed Feb 12 1997 18:27 | 8 |
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I think the reason they used Nog is because he is the only Ferengi in
Star Fleet. I loved the manual com stuff too - way cool! It was
reminicent of being on a submarine. Too bad they will have it fixed by
next week, I liked the energy around them having to compensate with old
fashioned ingenuity.
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1070.13 | | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Thu Feb 13 1997 10:55 | 14 |
| Re: Nog
I don't think the question is about why they chose Nog per se, but why anybody
was needed at all. If Nog could talk into that little communication device,
why couldn't Sisko?
Perhaps it was a physical link, so Nog had to stand right in that spot and not
move about on the bridge or the ship, a restriction that may have been
unreasonable for the standard bridge crew. Perhaps only one communication
device could be used, but comments and questions and orders might come from
(and go to) several people on the bridge, so it would be difficult for them all
to share the device.
Brian
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1070.14 | Sisko probably could of but they only had one. | BASEX::EISENBRAUN | John Eisenbraun | Thu Feb 13 1997 11:41 | 12 |
| >I don't think the question is about why they chose Nog per se, but why anybody
>was needed at all. If Nog could talk into that little communication device,
>why couldn't Sisko?
Because Sisko wasn't the only one issuing commands...
It reminded me of the TOS with Ohura's communicator. The whole thing
reminded me a lot of TOS - non-computerized control. I also enjoyed
it.
Nog was needed to hear commands from the bridge when there might be a
lot of explosions going on.
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1070.15 | Good one albeit a short one | SALEM::LEMAY | | Thu Feb 13 1997 15:12 | 3 |
| EGG NOG! :^)
I caught that one.
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1070.16 | | POLAR::RICHARDSON | Patented Problem Generator | Thu Feb 13 1997 15:32 | 3 |
| {phew}
;)
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1070.17 | I like shows that aren't cut and dried | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Mon Feb 17 1997 15:10 | 14 |
| Yeah, I got it too - pretty funny! ;-)
As for the episode, I enjoyed it, because as a previous noter pointed
out, it presented a reality that was not black and white. The Maquis
and the Federation each have legitimate points, and while I prefer the
Federation view of the world, I can see why the Maquis would stir such
passion in their followers.
I was thrilled that Sisco didn't back down, and actually bombed the
planet. That was most likely the only thing that would have gotten
Eddington to give himself up. Sisco was pissed, and he didn't care
who knew it. Great performance by Avery Brooks.
NAZZ
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1070.18 | so Sisko got personal revenge, but Edd'ton worth the price? | APLVEW::DEBRIAE | searching for the language that is _also_ yours | Thu Feb 20 1997 12:39 | 61 |
| I caught this one on tape.
I'm not sure the program meant to portray Eddington more sympathetically
than Sisko, though I agree it did come across that way. I feel this was due
to Eddington being both a better character and actor than Sisko character's
and Brooks (another poor wooden, sulking performance imo). Eddington
possessed ideals and passion, Sisko just boringly takes things that come his
way and no more. I almost expect to see "Good enough for government work" or
"this is just a desk job" banners pasted to his desk. Once again Sisko was
asleep at the wheel again as commander, yet another major event (Eddington's
betrayal) escaped his dullard attention. As did his not reminding SF of
their poor decision regarding Odo. Odo should not have had to remind him -
the commander - like that, perhaps he too senses how poor Sisko is at being
an effective commander (imo).
I didn't like the fact that Sisko destroyed a planet and killed civilians.
Unbecoming of and unlike a Star Fleet officer. For what? Eddington's
knowledge of secrets would soon be out of date, why was he such an
unbelievable threat that he personally would be worth the lives of civilians
and a planet? He was just another Maquis leader, no more and no less, no
different than all the other ex-Star Fleet Maquis members. [Kraft vs.
Parcells comes to DS9? :-)] It was personal, nothing more, and Sisko could
not rise above that and reacted to it like an uncontrolled and undisciplined
teenager. Sisko is a reactive loose canon and a poor SF officer, nevermind
commander (imo). This episode lowered even more my opinions of his
character.
I generally like any and all of the Maquis episodes too. I like the
personality traits of the Maquis members we've seen through TNG, DS9 and VOY.
Their passion and beliefs move me, even when the Star Fleet (and Picard and
Janeway) view suits me more personally. I admire them. Even Eddington,
whose character came across far better than Sisko's did this episode.
Still though, an enjoyable episode. Eddington added some spice and flair to
the show.
My favourite scene was with Nog, when his eyebrows went up "Explosions????
What explosions???" :-) I too thought the Dax scene just missing the pylon
was a bit silly. Yeah, right, like she didn't know it'd be there, like I'd
almost hit my own garage door in a snow storm too. Missing another Ferengi
ship, now that'd been a better scene. I'm mixed on the halo-communicator,
not sure I like it yet though technologically it seems to fit their
environment better than a flat viewscreen. Yet in a way it is too
distracting, losing the sense that the person you are conversing with is
actually removed and far away (say, when Sisko needs help from someone too far
away to give it to him).
I left this episode feeling Eddington was more in the right given his belief
system than Sisko was in his (if he held SF principles not quickly giving in
to his own personal vendetta) - even though on paper I see and agree with the
Federation side. Somehow one could see Kirk on the Maquis side as well,
feeling that crusty old HQ desk-sitters got conditions on the field wrong
once again.
I wish Eddington were still out there, as a better educated and more
passionate constant thorn in dullard always-sulking Sisko's side.... And now
a Changeling is under the seat of sleeping Sisko as well. SF really needs to
put a better commander in charge of the vital area of the wormhole. Sisko
belongs with and is ideal as a freighter captain, no more...
-Erik
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1070.19 | | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Thu Feb 20 1997 14:45 | 13 |
| >> I didn't like the fact that Sisko destroyed a planet and killed civilians.
That isn't clear. He made the atmosphere hazardous to humans (but not
Cardassians), but there were no reports of casualties, just people running to
the evacuation ships. There may have been people killed, but the planet was
certainly not destroyed.
>> and Brooks (another poor wooden, sulking performance imo).
Interesting; I thought Brooks did a particularly good job in this one. Funny
how his style works well for some people and not at all for others.
Brian
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1070.20 | Sisko is much more complicated than you make him out to be | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Thu Feb 20 1997 14:54 | 28 |
| Were you watching the same episode I was? Sisko did NOT destroy a
planet and kill civilians. They stressed that point at the end of the
show, when they noted the Cardassians and the humans were going to swap
planets so that each could live in a proper atmosphere. And if Sisko
did NOT order the cannisters shot into the planet's atmosphere, then
you would have a legitimate beef about his character. He was indeed
motivated by revenge, and it was indeed personal; as such, he had no
choice but to prove to Eddington that he would do whatever it took to
bring him to justice.
The thing for me that makes Sisko such an enjoyable character is that,
unlike Picard and especially Kirk, he has flaws, he makes mistakes, he
isn't perfect. It's that human aspect of him that is appealing, and
makes his decisions seem more real. You stated "Sisko just boringly
takes things that comes his way and no more." He does indeed take
things that come his way - that is his job. But he has certainly done
a lot more for the station and the Bajorans. You must remember that
DS9 is not boldly going where no man has gone before. It is a lonely
outpost on the edge of a wormhole, so naturally things have to come to
him, and he can't go seek out new life and new civilizations - they
must come to DS9.
Avery Brooks is an excellent actor. He has made Sisko a believable
officer and a believable human being, complete with human frailties,
which this episode clearly showed. I'm sorry that you can't see that
in his performance.
NAZZ
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1070.21 | visible that a planet-full of civilians engulfed in rapid cloud | APLVEW::DEBRIAE | searching for the language that is _also_ yours | Thu Feb 20 1997 15:55 | 52 |
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I thought it was made clear in the episode that Sisko killed, outright, many
Federation civilians by his direct command. True, he gave the planet a
warning. But also true however, former-SF Maquis knew that SF protocol would
never witness a SF captain firing upon helpless Federation civilians (the
colonizing civilian farming families down there et al). When Sisko fired the
torpedoes, he was told the evacuation had not taken place. After he fired,
as Sisko's poisonous clouds were shown taking over an entire half of the
planet in mere "as you watch" seconds, we were told "all those helpless
civilians are just now starting to scramble to get to ships." I doubt
thousands of people could run from their homes to the ships and all get
safely inside those bulk rescue ships in the time you saw the clouds envelope
the planet. To us anyway, it was clear that all those people left in their
homes on their own home planet were killed by Sisko, deliberately and
knowingly, just to capture _one_ former-SF Maquis member of thousands of
others. This one sole person who just happened to have had the better of
Sisko many times so far (Sisko risking Defiant, its crew, and killing
innocents in the sole name of very un-SF-like personal revenge). The episode
never made it clear why it was that "now long-gone and gone his own separate
way" Eddington was such a danger to SF (more so than the other Maquis), one
worth many thousands of civilian's lives.
Dax's cavalier "Oh goody, an adventure, let's go" attitude bothered me as
well. Of all things, it was only _Worf_ who had any SF-consciousness during
Sisko's revenge chase.
Your impressions while watching may have varied, those were mine...
> DS9 is not boldly going where no man has gone before. It is a lonely
> outpost on the edge of a wormhole, so naturally things have to come to
> him, and he can't go seek out new life and new civilizations - they
> must come to DS9.
Yes, and that was part of my problem with DS9 initially. However the show
has made many (mostly successful) efforts to overcome this 'stationary'
aspect of the show. However, and completely apart from this, is the fact
that Sisko is entirely reactive (only responds when kicked in the butt as
with Odo, etc) and is not proactive in any measure at all. Q criticised
Picard for "worrying about Riker's career" (etc) where Picard is at least
proactive (in his actions, in his ideals), I wonder what Q would think of
Sisko. Perhaps that is why Q never took any interest in "backwaters freighter
captain" Sisko.
> Avery Brooks is an excellent actor.
To each his own. I've never liked him as an actor. I'd bet if you took a
picture of Brooks surprised, Brooks angry, Brooks compassionate, Brooks
romantic, Brooks upset, Brooks with indigestion - you'd see the exact same
wooden unchanging stone face. He has no range whatsoever imo. If I liked
the character of Sisko as written, I'd have a dilemma since he'd be played by
someone I don't like as an actor. As 'luck' would have it, the two (actor
and character) are in synch. Your view may vary...
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1070.22 | | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Thu Feb 20 1997 17:41 | 15 |
| >> I'd bet if you took a
>> picture of Brooks surprised, Brooks angry, Brooks compassionate, Brooks
>> romantic, Brooks upset, Brooks with indigestion - you'd see the exact same
>> wooden unchanging stone face.
Golly, this disagreement is fascinating. The thing that I think of with Avery
Brooks is his *voice*. I like the way he speaks his part, I think he shows a
great deal of subtlety and nuance. I've never paid a huge amount of attention
to his facial expression. I do think he shows emotion quite nicely, never
overplaying it, and I do know he has a reasonable variety of facial expression,
but in comparison with somebody like Patrick Stewart it is probably less
involved. Brooks is a more reserved type of actor, and he works well in this
role, in my opinion.
Brian
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1070.23 | | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Wed Mar 05 1997 14:38 | 3 |
| Another Robert Hewitt Wolfe note from the Psi Phi site: Sisko did not use
deadly force, he used a slow-acting agent that gave the Maquis on the planet
time to evacuate.
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