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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

2044.0. "Watch out for old manure." by CSC32::KOELLHOFFER () Mon Jul 01 1996 06:21

    I have had my quater horse Beau for about 4 year now.
    He never gets sick or injures himself.  
    
    I noticed this spring as he sheding out he was looking
    kind of thin.  I started isolating him from the other
    horses during feeding time.  He was leaving feed.
    He has never done this before.
    
    	Beau is the kind of horse I can ride and win a barrel
    race.  Jump a 40 inch fence on command, and ride my 3 year 
    old son around the pasture.  
    
    	I was worried. I tried given him grain, increased his
    worming schedule, he gained a little but this is a horse 
    whoses ribs I had never seen before.  
    
    	My vet did a series of blood tests and found what we 
    think is the problem.  He is showing some minor liver damage.
    The vet said with rest and some vitamins he will be ok.  
    The cause was most likely some old chicken manure he got 
    into and ate.  
    
    	It turns out the urea in the manure can do some serious 
    damage.  
    
    In a month we will get Beau retested.  I should be cleared up 
    by then.
    
    				Carl K
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2044.1CSCMA::SMITHMon Jul 01 1996 12:5211
    Did he actually eat the manure, or the grass that grew from it?
    Do you have chickens? or did you have manure delivered for gardening?
    
    Sorry for all the questions, but I have a neighbor whose horse has some
    liver damage and they aren't sure what it is from, this might give some 
    insights.
    
    I hope your horse is better soon,
    
    Thanks,
    Sharon
2044.2Fresh chicken ManureCSC32::KOELLHOFFERTue Jul 02 1996 04:4123
    We have chickens. The manure is a mix of waste and
    the feed the chickens throw around. 
    	Horse are effected by the urea in the manure.
    But to cows it is according to the VET is is much
    more serious.  I makes them very dopey and can cause
    brain damage.  I know this seems unlikely with a cow brain
    being on the level of a brontosautus but that is
    what he said. 
    	So now we have one more thing to watch out for.
    So far: 
    		oak leaves
    		chicken poop
    		cherry wood shavings
    		loco weed
    		moldy grain, hay
                cow feed
    		alisa clover
    If you know of more please add it to the list.
    
    			Thanks,
    			
    				Carl
2044.3TOXICOLOGYDECWET::JDADDAMIONever say Never ;-)Tue Jul 02 1996 13:196
    I think Carl means alsike clover rather than alisa clover.
    
    Cherry bark is also toxic. Rhubarb. Yew trees. Black walnut shavings
    cause founder when used as bedding. There's a bunch more. Check the 
    listing for the TOXICOLOGY keyword as there are several notes on
    poisonous plants, etc.
2044.4TOXICOLOGYCSC32::KOELLHOFFERWed Jul 03 1996 02:343
    You are right alsike clover is what I mean. But I went to
    public school....
    Carl