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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

2023.0. "Any Info on DMSO?" by SUPER::JOSEPHSON () Mon Apr 01 1996 07:54

    Nancy Josephson
    SUPER::JOSEPHSON (Please use)
    381-0019 (Plese do not use)
    
    A 23 year old Morgan Mare at the barn where I ride has severe
    arthritis of her front shoulders.  The vet said to rub DMSO on her
    shoulders to reduce the inflammation and pain.  She licks the DMSO
    off her shoulders and now appears to be having problems with her
    mouth.  She constantly licks her lips and mouth and has been off her
    hay for about 2 weeks.  She is still eating carrots and grain but
    even so, has lost some weight.
    
    Does anyone have any experience with DMSO?  Any other suggestions for
    using something other than DMSO for Glory's arthritis?
    
    The vet doesn't seem to be overly concerned so it's been suggested
    to Glory's owner to call another vet.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Nancy
    
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2023.1exDECWET::JDADDAMIOJog? No, ever see a jogger smile?Mon Apr 01 1996 15:1818
    Nancy,
    
    DMSO is quickly absorbed through the skin. One way to keep the mare
    from licking it off while it's still wet would be to put her on the 
    crossties while rubbing it in and leave her there for 20 minutes or so. 
    The owner could use that time to groom her. 
    
    Is the owner sure that her not eating hay is related to DMSO? I have no
    idea whether DMSO would irritate mouth tissues or not. I do know that
    it can be a dangerous substance because it penetrates the skin and
    carries anything that was mixed into it whether it is medcation or
    contaminants. 
    
    Have her teeth, mouth and throat been examined? There are other
    reasons why a horse doesn't eat hay, especially at 25. She may not be
    able to chew and swallow properly.
    
    As to the vet, when in doubt, get a second opinion.
2023.2My experiencesMTCLAY::COBURNPlan B FarmMon Apr 01 1996 16:0140
    I second John's suggestion to keep her restrained until the DMSO dries.
    It's a powerful substance, and the owner should only need to apply a
    little - she doesnt' need to put so much the coat is soaked in it.  I'm
    sure if she is licking it off, it would have a lousy taste.  
    
    But whether or not it would put her off from eating hay, I again agree
    with John that her teeth should be checked, and the hay be examined for
    proper quality.
    
    As to what else can be done for arthritis, my mare (age 21) has a mildly
    arthritic hock, although apparently not as troubling as your friend's
    horses' problem:  
    
    - I do not use DMSO at all, but I do feed a low dose on Emflx daily, and 
      it seems to help.  
    
    - I also give her a rub down with Absorbine gel after hard work outs.  
    
    - You can also feed supplements containing GAGS (such as Cosequin, MSM, 
      or Flex-Free) that are supposedly very helpful in the production of
      synovial(sp) joint fluids - my mare isn't advanced enough to need them 
      yet, and they are extremely expensive.  
    
    - I have bute that my vet told me to give before and/or after hard work 
      outs if needed, but so far I haven't had to.    
    
    - One of the best things you can do for arthritis is keep them moving; 
      round the clock turnout if possible, and plenty of exercise.  I do a 
      pretty good amount of trail riding pretty much year round, up to 40 - 
      55 miles a week at the busiest time of the season, and my vet has 
      advised me to continue to do so until it becomes impossible for her.
           
    - There are several 'injectable' options - steroids, cortisone, for
      example, that can often help in more advanced cases
    
     
    I, too, would get a second vet opinion if not entirely comfortable with
    the first.
    
    
2023.3QE010::ROMBERGSo many log files, so little documentation.....Thu Apr 04 1996 17:026
DMSO will blister sensitive tissues, so you need to be careful.  
Another option is to put a bib on the horse so that it's lips 
cannot get to the treated area(s).  


kathy