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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

1698.0. "Anglo-Arab Breeders Wanted" by SEEPO::PIERCE (H a p p y N e w Y e a r) Fri Jan 08 1993 12:20

    
    I searched in note #4 for Anglo-Arabs and I didn't find a listing.
    I consider Anglo's diffrent from the topic listing Arabs' due to the
    TB breeding.
    
    Isn't there ANY Anglo-Arab breeders somewhere in Mass or NH or even
    Conn and RI ? ? ? 
    
    Any info on Anglo's would be greatly appreciated.
    
    Louisa
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1698.1DELNI::MANDILEToepick!Fri Jan 08 1993 13:312
    I bet any (reputable) Arabian breeder could give you a few names.....
    
1698.2XLIB::PAANANENAnother Warp Speed WeekendFri Jan 08 1993 13:488
    Call Arlyn DiCicco at Woodlock Farm
    51 Whitney St, Sherborn, MA 508-655-2323

    I don't think she breeds Anglos but she is
    likely to know of someone who does since she
    has jumpers and arabs. 

1698.3SEEPO::PIERCEH a p p y N e w Y e a rFri Jan 08 1993 15:025
    
    I have talked to alot of Arab Breeders w/ No luck at all.  
    Thanks for the Woodlock Farm #, I'll give it a try.
    
    Louisa
1698.4XLIB::PAANANENAnother Warp Speed WeekendFri Jan 08 1993 15:3210
   
   Unfortunately, for the most part, Arab and TB breeders mix like 
   oil and water. Many Arab breeders think that TBs are useless, and 
   vice versa. Don't get discouraged, Louisa, there *are* some out 
   there, you just have to dig a little deeper. I think you will find 
   that the search will be worth it, though. I know there is an 
   Anglo-Arab breeder in Virginia, but his horses are pretty expensive. 
   Rather than talking to Arab breeders, I'd ask dressage and jumper
   trainers who are not glued to Warmbloods.
    
1698.5Anglo-Arabs are often Sport HorsesXLIB::PAANANENAnother Warp Speed WeekendFri Jan 08 1993 15:4710
  Another thought, Louisa, is that the Arabian Sport Horse Association
  may be able to help you. They are in Virginia, but have members all
  over the US.

	 ASHAI
	 6145 Whaleyville Blvd
	 Suffolk VA 23438
	 804-986-4486

1698.6CSC32::M_HOEPNERthe Year of Jubilee...Fri Jan 08 1993 15:5723
    
    Dr. John Aldred, Haymarket Virginia raises them.  He has been breeding 
    them for 20 or 30 or 40 years.  Phone is 703-754-8666.  I think this is 
    to whom Kiirja was referring.  His horses are not cheap but are of 
    excellent quality and disposition.  My mare E.C. is from his farm.  
    And she is wonderful in every way. 
    
    I know that he currently has a couple of NICE ones.  He has a really 
    nice 5-year old (16 to 16.1), seal brown, gorgeous head, good
    conformation, and great mover.  And priced for the Virginia market.  
    If our company wasn't so questionable, I would own him right now. 
    
    He also has a couple older ones. 
    
    There is also a breed in Alberta.  I will look up her address.  And
    there is a breeder (or was) in Pennsylvania. 
    
    The International Arabian Horse Association in Denver might have a 
    listing of Anglo breeders.  Number is 303-450-4774.  Or they could 
    put you in touch with the Anglo Arabian Committee chairman. 
    
    Mary Jo Hoepner
    Colorado Springs
1698.7Or, maybe the Yankee Pedlar (Mass)DELNI::MANDILEToepick!Mon Jan 11 1993 08:573
    I think I remember seeing an organization/club for 1/2 Arabians?
    
    (in the back of Horse & Rider, I think)
1698.8non left in this area :-(SEEPO::PIERCEH a p p y N e w Y e a rTue Jan 12 1993 13:3522
    
    Thanks for all your help.  
    
    I called the numbers in the pervious replys and the folks on the other
    end were very helpful and full of great information.  I have even
    joined a few more clubs.  
    
    But, there are NO Anglo-Arabs left in the Mass, CT, RI, NH, VT area
    There are a few folks listed w/ the clubs who happen to own 1 Anglo
    but they do not breed them or sell them or know where I can buy one.
    
    There are a few in NY but that is just to far for me to travel.
    
    The clubs told me that the hot thing to do now is to breed the Arabs
    w/ warm-bloods or American Saddle Breeds.  The Arab Sport Horse Assoc
    did not like the idea of American Saddle Breeds being bread to the
    Arab's.. they made that very clear to me on the phone.
    
    It was a gallant effort on all our parts, again thank you.  I guess we
    will not own a Anglo...back to the drawing board.
    
    Louisa
1698.9One more alternativeALFA1::COOKChips R UsWed Jan 13 1993 11:0315
    Well, there's one other alternative.  It would take more time and 
    the results wouldn't be known up front.  But it could be infinitely
    more rewarding.  Lease a Thoroughbred mare, and breed her to an
    Arabian stallion.  Or vice versa.  
    
    I'm not surprised the Sport Horse folks didn't jump on the
    Arab/Saddlebred cross...it's not a product like what they're aiming
    for.  But the National Show Horse (which is what that cross is) is
    a wonderful athlete! 
    
    don't give up!
    gwen
     
    
    
1698.10CSC32::M_HOEPNERthe Year of Jubilee...Wed Jan 13 1993 11:5614
    
    Actually there are a bunch of Arab/Saddlebred crosses out there that 
    didn't turn out to be exactly what they were bred for as 'gaited' types
    of horses and that would perform pretty much as an Anglo.  I owned
    a couple like that and they were/are wonderful sport horses.  One was 
    a full brother to several nationally ranked park horses.  And he 
    could have been an English Pleasure horse.  But he had that long, 
    sweepy trot that won him Class A Hunter under saddle classes and 
    a jump that made a Class A champion AOTR hunter, and then on to be a
    AOTR Jumper.  I also evented him and competed very well in dressage
    (he usually scored in the high 60's). He is now a wonderful field hunter.
    
    (In fact, a few years ago the horse that one the Denver Stock Show 
    Open Jumper champion was a Arab/Saddlebred cross).
1698.11THEY AREN'T ALL BIG TROTTERSASABET::NICKERSONKATHIE NICKERSON 223-2025Thu Jan 14 1993 08:105
    I agree with the previous noter...the Arab/Saddlebred Cross doesn't
    always produce the high trot that a lot of the breeders are looking
    for.  If you decide to go that route, let me know.
    
    Kathie
1698.12Anglo/Arab in NHDEVMKO::BROWN_JI llove my llamas!Fri Jan 29 1993 13:4513
	I saw the following ad in the NH Weekly Market
	Bulletin, the Jan. 27th edition -- don't know
	anything about it but thought it might help...

	Anglo/Arab mare, 8 yrs., no vices, E&W, 16.2h.,
	gd jumper prospect, $5000/bo.  Auburn,483-2696

	(assume a 603 area code)

	Good luck in your search


	Jan  llama_llover
1698.13MJ Farms in AlbertaCGOOA::LMILLERhasten slowlyMon Mar 08 1993 12:5212
    Hi,
    
    The ANGLO breeder in Alberta is MJ farms.  I know them quite well. 
    They actually have one or two already shipped in the MA. area. 
    Actually I have one, and he is a doll but for sale as I don't have the
    time he requires.  The prices here are cheaper - 'cause I know what
    they can be sold for in the US.  If you want any information - just let
    me know - they are reputable (as any) and while being a bit odd are
    reasonable people.
    
    
    Linda