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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
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1555.0. "Pee's On Hay :-(" by BONJVI::PIERCE (My rainbow is over due) Tue Nov 19 1991 15:11

My Pinto Gelding (Joey) has this nasty habit of peeing on his morning hay.
This drives me crazy.  There are 3 horse's at the barn and every morning
(in the winter months) I put out 3 piles of hay for them.  They all
walk around and around until they find the pile they like the best and the
begin munching.  

Well Joey will position himself right in the middle of his hay and pee!
Then he has the nerve to leave his hay and take one of the other horse's
piles. 

At first I thought he was being territorial, but he will not eat his hay
he has peed on, he makes one of the other horses eat it.  (is my horse
rude or what) :-)

I was running out and taking the peed-on hay way and replacing w/ new hay,
but Joey was insisting on peeing on that to.

Did you ever know of any horses who did this?  Why is he peeing on it if
he's not going to eat it?

Louisa & Joey
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1555.1MPO::ROBINSONbut it matches my outfit!Tue Nov 19 1991 15:499
    
    	Maybe because he doesn't get any splash-back if he pees
    	on the hay, haha...!
    
    	Can you put some type of hay racks in the paddock if you 	
    	can't stop the problem??
    
    	Sherry
    
1555.2That's a riot!DECWET::JDADDAMIOAdmire spirit in horses & women!Tue Nov 19 1991 17:231
    Just when I thought I had heard it ALL!
1555.3I have one too..KERNEL::CHEWTERWed Nov 20 1991 08:355
    I also have a horse who pees on his hay.
    
    I really cant visualise your horse making another horse eat this hay!
    
    J
1555.4CSLALL::LCOBURNSpare a horse,ride a cowboyWed Nov 20 1991 09:009
    Maybe he thinks he's 'marking' pile A as 'his', then going over to eat pile
    B thinking the other horses won't eat pile A after he laid claim to
    it?? I'm surprised any horse WOULD eat of pile A, after it had been
    peed on. Yuck! 
    
    I like the hay rack idea, or at least hanging hay nets from the
    fence....
    
    
1555.5I can do MangersBONJVI::PIERCEMy rainbow is over dueWed Nov 20 1991 10:5811
    
    Great idea about the hay racks.  We have an electric fence around
    4 acres of land.  and there is no where to put nets or racks..but..
    I could make some mangers to put the hay in them.  I think I will.
    
    He must pee on his hay then kick his mate out of her pile then go
    back to her later (this is why he is fat) :-)
    
    Thanks for idea!
    
    Louisa
1555.6XLIB::PAANANENWed Nov 20 1991 12:477
  
  You know those post & backboard things that they hang basketball
  nets on? well I saw two of these set out in a pasture (at a lower
  height, of course, we're not talking about giraffes :^) ) with
  hay racks on them instead of basketball hoops. Sounds like just
  what you need. Probably not a terribly cheap solution though...

1555.7No nets...PFSVAX::PETHCritter kidsWed Nov 20 1991 15:136
    Whatever you do, I do not reccommend haynets in the field. I had a
    mare tangle herself very badly, I can only imagine what might have
    happened if she had not waited patiently for someone to come cut her
    loose.
    Sandy
    
1555.8Stand next to him, slap his rump w/crop when he psBOOVX2::MANDILEBad horse, bad horseWed Nov 20 1991 16:0112
    How about not letting him out with the others until after
    they finish their hay?  Leave him in the stall to eat his,
    and then turn him out after....( I know, hard to do when
    you have to feed before work, but I had to do this when
    aggressiveness kept 1 from getting his fair share....)
    
    In a safe area, sink a few 4x4x12 posts far enough apart
    to provide company, but no competition, for the hay, put
    up a plywood backing, and attach a hayrack.  The rack should
    be above horse head level, so they have to reach for it.
    They also won't get a foot caught that way! (-8 
    
1555.9Muck Basket Hay FeedersMOPUS::ROBERTSThu Nov 21 1991 07:5314
    How about a muck basket?  I've used these as pasture feeders for both 
    hay and grain. Sure, he'll eventually just turn it on it's side to get
    the hay out, but the hay still won't be in a big inviting pile for him.
    And it might be difficult for him to "position" himself over it. 8^}
    Be sure to take off the rops handle, though.  With these removed, your
    horse would have to *really* try hard to hurt himself on one of these.
    
    Or, you could even hang the muck basket up on the fence like a feed
    bucket.  I've often thought of doing this, but so far I've only used
    them as ground feeders.  I've also used them as hay feeders in a stall
    for horses that insist on walking all over their hay and grinding it
    into the bedding.  
    
    -ellie
1555.10ThanksBONJVI::PIERCEMy rainbow is over dueFri Nov 22 1991 11:5317
    
    Thansk for all the great ideas.  But I was just wondering if any of
    your  horses do this terrible act.  
    
    I really can't do anything about him doing this.  I board my horse in 
    Berlin and I live in Hudson 10mi away in the opposit direction from work 
    (work is in Maynard) I put a round trip of miles on my car of 60mi a day.  
    I can't wait an extra hr for Joey to finnish his hay.  And I can't build 
    anything for him to eat out of becasue I would have to build one for the 
    other horse to and it's not my barn.
    
    But they are all GREAT ideas and when I get my own barn I will build
    a kind of manger for him to eat out of.
    
    thanks,
    
    Louisa