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90.1 | | BOSOX::LCOBURN | How # sins can I get $ make heaven? | Fri Jun 21 1991 13:07 | 8 |
| I know very little about breeding so perhaps this is a stupid
question, but why not AI ?? Is it incredibly difficult, or
expensive?? My mare is a former broodmare, and it's a pain
in the butt at times. She winks at her trailmate constantly,
and can get very irritable at times. I've always wondered if
she's be less excitable had she been bred an alternative way.
(she was breed 4 times by live cover).
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90.2 | | KAHALA::FULTZ | ED FULTZ | Fri Jun 21 1991 13:29 | 7 |
| While there are various notes on breeding, there doesn't seem to be any
specifically addressing a virgin mare being bred and all of the problems that
might arise from this. So, how about any suggestions from those more
knowledgeable.
Ed..
co-moderator
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90.3 | BE CAREFUL FOR ALL CONCERNED...MAN AND ANIMAL | ASABET::NICKERSON | KATHIE NICKERSON 223-2025 | Fri Jun 21 1991 13:41 | 17 |
| I will get my husband to answer this one. He handled the stallion(s)
and I handled the mares. They are all different. Some are very
difficult and others are fine. In my opinion if it is a maiden mare
and a "rowdy" stallion, and let me tell you they are different
creatures when they are breeding, you should have someone with
experience handle them or at least help.
It can be dangerous to you, the stallion and the mare.
As far as the wild goes, it may have been okay because there were no
"restrictions" put on by man...for example, they ran together and knew
in most cases when the "right" time was; they had no halters on with
someone tugging on the other side, etc.
Good luck...it is a wonderful experience but please be careful for
everyone's sake.
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90.4 | stallions in the wild are quickly replaced | ESCROW::ROBERTS | | Mon Jun 24 1991 09:17 | 17 |
| About horses in the wild --
Yes, we seem to go to great lengths to protect our horses when they are
doing something that should be natural. But, if you really analyze it
closely, most of the protecting is for the stallion, who is actually
the one more likely to be hurt.
In the wild, protection for the stallion is not as necessary. In the
first place, his mares are part of his herd and therefore are not
strangers. But also, the simple fact is that stallions are expendable!
There are many more waiting on the edges of herd society to take over
as soon as the ruling stallion is injured. In captivity, the economics
of breeding turn things around, and it is the stallions who generate
the most money and so are carefully protected.
-ellie
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90.5 | Breeding | AKOCOA::LESAGE | | Mon Jun 24 1991 12:56 | 11 |
| Having handled many stallions years ago and having been involved in the
breeding aspect of horses, I can understand your concerns. We used
breeding hobbles on any mare we were not sure about. These hobbles were
to protect the stallion from being kicked. So I am not sure what were
fears were about breeding hobbles. We also used a teasing stallion to
make sure the mare was ready. We had some stallions we had to muzzle to
keep them from biting the mares. The best advise is to make sure the
people handling the breeding know what they are doing. This can be
dangerous for the horses and the handlers if not done correctly.
Believe it or not this does not come naturally to some horses.
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90.6 | Do you have help? | FRAGLE::PELUSO | PAINTS; color your corral | Mon Jun 24 1991 12:59 | 24 |
| Hi Tina-
I have watched/helped my instructor w/ several breedings over the past
few years, and from what little I know, I would think almost anything
could happen.
Her main stud is quite loud and excitable, another one who visits `camp'-
more subdued, and her newest acquisition, well I haven't seen anything yet,
but I hear he's quiet too. All the mare's act differently.
I saw one maiden mare try to make this stud a gelding, but a few of the
seasoned mares have tried too as well. My girlfriends mare had to be
restrained more than usual, because she wouldn't stand from the stud.
It took many coverings to get her pregnant.
Do you or can you have the help of someone who is experienced in
handeling mares and stallions? If you'd like the name of my instructor
contact me off line......maybe she can give you a better idea of what
to expect and have some suggestions for handeling.
Good luck!
Michele
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90.7 | Age of Maiden Mare... | DEMON::RHODAN::DIROCCO | | Wed Jul 17 1991 16:51 | 3 |
| How old is too old for a maiden mare? Just curious.
Deb
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90.8 | courting | MTADMS::DOUGLAS | | Fri Jul 19 1991 10:07 | 10 |
| RE: .11
Yes, I think that is a good idea to let them have time to "court".
I did put them side by side and he gets to speak and muzzle with the
mare. She is not sure what to think about all his fussing over her.
I am going to wait until next spring to breed her. I want to
train her this year and maybe she being older will be a little more
settled. I also want a spring baby, I think it's late now although
I know people that have bred up until August.
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