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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

832.0. "Grid Work/Gymnastics" by DUCK::GILLOTTW () Tue May 21 1991 11:02

    Has anyone out there got any good ideas or building a grid?
    I have decided that my horse could do with some grid work, and
    I know that different people have got different ideas about 
    buiding grids and the spacings and height.
    
    I have read a few articles but I just wondered if anyone had
    a good one they would care to share.
    
    My horse tends to jump a bit flat and I need something to make
    him round a little.
    
    Thanks 
    
    Wendy
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832.1A common complaint, lots of reasonsBELFST::MCCOMBI'm glad I live in Carrickfergus....Tue Jun 04 1991 07:4434
    
    There are  a few reasons for horses not rounding over fences and I
    recently had my horse decide not to round.
    
    Cavaletti seem to be out of favour at the moment since a few horses
    have been badly injured using them and as an alternative we use
    Telegraph poles as trotting poles. I,ve yet to see a horse that doesn't
    look down going through them. 
    
    In some cases the horse does not round because he is waiting for a pull
    in the mouth after the fence. This usually due to a rider with an
    unbalanced seat or a horse which stands off fences giving the rider a
    bad ride. The placing pole in front of and after the jump the jump usually
    cures this one. Also a good excercise for the rider is to place a
    trotting placing pole in front of the jump and two parralel poles 3to 4
    feet apart forming a tunnel into the placing pole, when the horse enters 
    the tunnel look away at right angles to the direction and go with the
    horse. It's amazing how your hands improve after a few jumps.
    
    My horse was jumping hollow and he was described as taking off like a
    Jumbo jet and landing the same way (almost back legs first). We thought
    it might be due to teeth so off we went to the vet (it took 4 to do his
    teeth the last time) but his teeth were ok. He asked what we were
    concerned with and we described his jumpimg as above. Ah! he said
    Showjumpers disease and immediatley pressed the sacroiliac Ligament on
    his quarters and he flinched. He gave us a drug called MSM (can't
    remember the latin) and he has been as better than ever since. It's as
    if all his joints have been oiled.
    
    
    Hope you get your problems sorted
    
    		Good luck
    		Gareth 
832.2Jumpers Bump Problem?BELFST::MCCOMBI'm glad I live in Carrickfergus....Tue Jun 04 1991 08:0624
    Wendy,
          I"ve just read your reply to my note in 1465 after my last reply
    to this note. As your horse is Irish bred the last part of my reply may
    well be approrriate. Most good jumping Irish horses have what dealers
    here call the "jumpers Bump". This is a pronouned bump on the top of
    his hind quarters. From there there is usually a hollow running down to
    the top of his tail ( all good draught/tb's have it) this hollow should
    not get any shallower at the "bump". If it is then he may have the
    Sacroiliac infamation problem. To test if it is sore,stand to the side and 
    put you hand directly parralell to the bump and about 3 to 4 inches to
    either side and dig your fingers into him quite hard. If he goes down
    he either has the problem or Myositus. The two can be seperated by
    having a CPK blood test done. If the Cpk is above 250 then is due to
    lactic acid build up causing muscle damage, if not it may well be the
    sacroiliac problem. The Myositus is a mild form of "tying up" and can
    be sorted out by adding Selenium, vit e and DMG supplements to the food
    and also reducing the amount of oats and barley to the food getting the
    Ca/Ph ratio correct.
    
    
    All the above is from bitter experience and not from being smart I can
    assure you,
    
    		Gareth 
832.3I will try...DUCK::GILLOTTWTue Jun 04 1991 08:4823
    Gareth,
    
    Thanks for your advice, William has got a shallow down his back going
    towards his tail - to tell the truth I have not noticed it getting any 
    shallower or any deeper,  I will try your methord tonight although I do 
    chech his spine regularly and he does not seem to flinch.  He is very
    flexable in his quaters, hocks and fetlocks and I am very careful
    about the amount of oats I give him, and he is worked fairly hard, by
    that I mean a lot of road work and is turned out every day and at the
    moment he is out at night.  I have not over done any sort of jumping
    with him, I have always been very careful as to not over do it and 
    try not to jump on hard ground.   He does round over bounce jumps, and
    trotting poles and never attempts to play about going through them,
    infact he rather enjoys it.
    
    As I may have mentioned before he is a big horse and is quite long in
    the back (T'bread in him I suppose!) and I think he may need to do 
    a lot of grid work to get his muscles built up agin.
    
    Regards
    
    Wendy