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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

1331.0. ""BACKS" - YOURS AND HORSES" by VANISH::PAGE () Thu Aug 16 1990 10:15

    Hello, I thought that I would open a conference on "Back Problems", I
    do not mind how you all respond, whether it be your horses back or your
    back, because your back makes a big difference to your horses back too.
    
    I will start by telling you my experience with my last horse, Goldayne.
    a full Thoroughbred. I was successfully entering my 1st year in BHS 
    Eventing in England, last year and after 2-3 outstanding performances,
    he suddenly starting not wanting to jump anything.
    
    I had Vets, blacksmiths, and back people, and was told it was muscular
    an area of his neck was cracked back, spending 4 weeks in a
    re-habilitation centre with Mary Bromily.
    
    Great results, I started a 2 month programe of walking, and muscle
    building, trotting poles. No heavy, hard work and this stage.
    
    After 2 months, I did some indoor Showjumping (tiny) and I was jumping
    clear...GREAT....he was happy, I was happy, then I entered a mini One
    day event to bring him up again slowly. The event started great, brilliant
    dressage test, well into the lead.....in the showjumping he jumped half
    the round great, then started stopping.......was he hurting I was
    thinking ??? I got round though....with out the use of whips and spurs
    I add.  The X-country, this is the bit we both liked, he was a natural
    at this.  I could not get over the first fence...!!!!!!!!
    ELIMINATION...
    My heart sank, for the first time I cried..........I knew from this
    time he would never be right again......after all my dedication,
    committment with this horse over 5 years......
    
    He is now happily turned away with his breeder......munching with not a
    care in the world now.....!!!!!
    
    THEN.......5 months later, I started the pains in the back and had 3
    months Chiropractor treatment on myself.....I put it down to riding for
    so long, then suddenly stopping, minor falls in earlier years, which I
    thought nothing of, set in....
    I feel good now because I am riding again......
    What experiences have you had....??????? 
                                           
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1331.1MY BACK ACHES TOO...PEKING::GILLOTTWThu Aug 16 1990 10:4615
    I suffer from a bad back in the winter months when I go out riding
    in the cold weather.  I think that because I ride every day my back
    muscles are used to being abused and when I stop for a couple of
    days I get a complaint in the small of my back, probably something
    I will have to live with.
    
    I do think that a lot of horses suffer from bad backs and I think
    this is something that people tend to ignor. Re note 1331 I am pleased
    that you reconised the problem and did someting about it, although
    when a horse has had a bad fall or taken a jump awkwardly and puts
    his back out they still have to try and get over the mental problem
    which is not easy to conquor.
    
     
                                 
1331.2mine, tooFRAIS3::LANGJAHRwhere's the sun?????Thu Aug 16 1990 11:1912
    i had problems with my back, too. i went to the doctor, who started
    measuring the length of my legs (he knows me since i was 5 or so and
    remembered). he found out that one of my legs is about 1,5 cm shorter
    and that my backbone is not straight. now i have pad in one of my shoes
    and it's fine.
    
    i thought about horses/dogs having the same problem....
    
    do you have any experiences with horses and that problem??
    
    ciao,
    petra
1331.3VMSSPT::PAANANENThu Aug 16 1990 11:594
    People back problems are also discussed at note 215.
    Horse back problems are also discussed at note 1283.
    
1331.4ticklish back?TLE::DINGEEThis isn't a rehearsal, you know.Thu Aug 16 1990 15:4620
    
    I normally use my own horse for lessons, but a couple of weeks had
    to use a school horse. While I was brushing his lower back, along
    the spine, he nearly fell on his belly - stretching his back legs
    wide and sinking down under the brush. That's *ALL* he did. He
    didn't jump, attempt to pull away, or anything else. I rode him
    for the lesson and we did both flat work and 2 and a half foot
    jumps. The flatwork consisted mostly of bending exercises. He never
    flinched, and sailed over those jumps effortlessly.
    
    My question is, do you think he was in pain when I brushed him there?
    I brought it to the attention of the teacher, and she said he was
    "ticklish". But, she is considering putting him up for sale, too, as
    he's quite strong for a lesson horse; and he is - wants to do what
    *HE* wants to do. Anyhow, at the risk of having you all out there
    giggling at me, is it possible he's ticklish?? I never heard of it,
    but I learn something new every day...
    
    thanks,
    julie
1331.5an ideaPFSVAX::PETHCritter kidsThu Aug 16 1990 16:129
    He could be "ticklish" or he could have a painful back. I would see how
    he reacted to you rubbing the same area fairly firmly with your
    fingers. A brush can tickle but your fingers should not, you could also
    feel if the muscles are tensing up or relaxing as you rub. If he is
    tense, I would bet he has pain there. This could also explain his
    "strong" attitude. If he is used to working with some pain, he may
    appear to be fine especially if it does not affect any particular limb.
    Sandy
    
1331.6could be...LEVADE::DAVIDSONThu Aug 16 1990 16:127
re: .4

	Did you run your fingers along his spine?  If so, did he react
	the same way? (If not, I'd think him ticklish!)

					-Caroline