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1323.1 | difficult, but.... | FRAIS3::LANGJAHR | where's the sun????? | Wed Aug 01 1990 10:26 | 9 |
| don't know...
i guess if it's the best for the horse i would kill/let it kill....
but i don't know of anybody who caries the necessary "equipment"
anyway if the horse has to suffer too much and it doesn't look like
it can be healed again the horse should be killed.
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1323.2 | Don't end up in jail! | WJOUSM::NICKERSON | Bob Nickerson DTN 282-1663 :^) | Wed Aug 01 1990 10:35 | 23 |
| It may sound cruel but I believe the best policy would be to wait
until a vet arrives, unless you are very confident in your own vetinary
skills. Many times injuries look much worse than they actually are.
If you were to carry something like Rompun and gave it you may mask
some symptoms that are important to know about. In addition to the
fact that it takes some skill to give an I.V. injection especially to a
horse who is thrashing. In any case I would not suggest that you carry
a handgun for any reason since doing so could get you in lots of
trouble regardless of how humanitarian the reason. In Massachusetts
for example, you would get a mandatory sentence of one year in prison.
No questions asked, no parole, no suspended sentence, etc. The judge
has no role except to determine guilt which is pretty easy to do when
you are standing there with a smoking gun and a dead horse. Other
states may have similar laws. By the way if you were to euthanize a
horse it would take about 100cc of HydroCloride per animal. Thats lots
of material to carry around for two horses (you could be arrested for
possessing the injection apparatus without a prescription also).
It would be best to carry the number of a competent vet when traveling
locally, and drive "defensively".
Bob
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1323.3 | Police Do Shoot | MERLAN::KJROY | | Wed Aug 01 1990 14:56 | 18 |
| My pony was hit by a car and had to be destroyed by the Police before
the MSPCA/Vet could get to our house. The Police Dept. was not
thrilled with having to destroy the horse, especially with the close
proximity to the house.
There is a book out titled "How to Be Your Own Veterinarian (Sometimes)
with a whole chapter dedicated to euthanasia. They even have a
diagram on how to correctly destroy your animal with a gun. Of
course the circumstances are for riding in the wilderness or hunting
miles and miles away.
In Mass. you have to have a permit to carry a gun, I don't know
the specifics on how you can use it.
Something I would rather not think about.
kj
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1323.4 | | VMSSPT::PAANANEN | | Thu Aug 02 1990 09:40 | 15 |
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Another thing to consider is that if your horse is in the care of
someone else, the vet may require the OWNERS permission to put the
horse down, not just the caretaker's. For this reason we have
written up documents which allow the people who board our horses
'power of attorney' to authorize and supervise any medical treatment
they deem necessary, including euthanasia.
The reason we did this is because we heard of someone whose barn
burned and most of the animals were severely injured. The person
taking care of the animals did not have legal authority to have
the injured animals euthanized, and so for some of the horses
they had to wait nearly 24 hours before the legal owners could
be located to authorize the treatment.
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1323.5 | a story | NAC::SCHLENER | | Fri Aug 03 1990 09:04 | 28 |
| At a previous barn, a horse was sold to someone who was extremely
inexperienced. Well, the owner (without riding lessons or riding in the
ring first) went out on trail. The horse spooked, the rider fell off,
and the horse ran back to the barn. Unfortunately, the horse had to
cross Rt 122 in Grafton (Mass.) where the speeds are between 40 - 60
mph.
The horse was hit by a car. Needless to say the car was demolished and
the horse - well, you can imagine. Sadly to say, the horse was not
killed by the accident (it would have been a blessing). Instead it was
still alive when it was dragged from under the car - both front legs
broken.
When the policeman arrived, he refused to shoot the horse. So the
stable owner took the policeman's gun and shot, what used to be his
horse, the horse. Louie didn't get into any trouble (at least that I
know of) from using the policeman's gun.
It's difficult to say what you would do when you see an animal in pain.
Especially your baby. I don't know what I would do if Jasper was
injured where I knew there was no hope. I was at the accident and it
was very evident that this horse had to be put down.
One thing someone mentioned is keeping a having crowbar in the truck.
It may sound horrible I don't know if I could hit my horse, but at
least the horse would be out of pain.
Cindy
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1323.6 | ex | CARTUN::MISTOVICH | | Fri Aug 03 1990 10:34 | 7 |
| If you hit your horse with the crowbar, the horse would only be out of
pain if you hit the right spot with enough force. Otherwise you would
just be adding to the pain. I doubt very much that any of us has
experience in slaughterhouse techniques. And from what I understand,
experienced slaughterers don't necessarily kill them with the first blow.
Mary
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1323.7 | drive defensivly and wait fo a vet | FRAGLE::PELUSO | PAINTS; color your corral | Fri Aug 03 1990 12:10 | 10 |
| In case of such an accident, I think I would prefer to wait for a vet.
I witnessed two horses collide last fall (really horrible) and we all
though the people were fools to try to save them. This was a real
pitiful situation, and I was in tears to think someone would subject
their horse to the additional tramua of being moved.
Neither horse suffered as much as we originally thought, and both have
recovered nicely (although they'll never do the serious competing anymore).
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1323.8 | | CSC32::M_HOEPNER | Standing on the edge is not the same | Sun Aug 05 1990 12:37 | 11 |
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A trainer I used to ride with carries a handgun in his briefcase. He
does have a license for it. He does have to check it when he flies to
horse shows, however.
It is real disturbing to think of having to use it. However, I was a
witness to a wreck in which some horses were killed outright, and
others where broken up really badly and ended up being destroyed. The
policeman on the scene refused to shoot one horse which was alive
but was gutted. He died on his own after thrashing around for 15
minutes. It would have been far kinder to shoot him.
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1323.9 | A Gun May be the Only Solution | NUTMEG::HEWSON | | Wed Aug 15 1990 18:10 | 22 |
| I believe that a responsible horse owner should be ready to put his own
horse down if you are in one of the situations where the horse is
obviously badly hurt and suffering. A gun is probably the best way to
do it. This is a good example where states like the state of
Massachusetts have really interferred with the rights of the law
abiding citizen. I live in New Hampshire and am glad to have guns for
such emergencies, even though I hope I will not be in such situations.
Although 3 years ago, my husband decided to put our 20 yr old horse
down himself. The horse had foundered and was in a lot of pain and
also had a number of other old age problems (such that he would have
refoundered in the future). In coordinating the backhoe and the vet,
the backhoe got the hole dug long before the vet was supposed to come,
so my husband decided to do it himself. He read one of my vet books
several times to know exactly where to shoot, and luckily put the horse
down with one shot. Also luckily, I was in work.
These are not happy things to think about, but they are things that any
horse owner should consider, especially if you have your own barn.
Diana
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