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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
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1294.0. "Training Support Needed for 4 mo. old Colt" by --UnknownUser-- () Tue Jun 19 1990 19:43

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1294.2help = how do you edit a note?SALEM::LAURENCELLETue Jun 19 1990 19:595
    Help - How do you edit notes?
    
    Phone line interference awful.....
    
    amy
1294.3mason!TLE::DINGEEThis isn't a rehearsal, you know.Wed Jun 20 1990 12:1210
    
    You may wish to contact Carol Iodice; she teaches riding, and trains
    	horses. She lives in Mason, NH on Hurricane Hill Rd., and runs a
    	4-H horse group in Mason. Sorry I don't have her number with me,
    	but if it isn't listed, call me in the evening at 878-3814. 
    
    Maybe we'll meet on the trails!
    
    -julie
    
1294.5I'm not a breeder, but...CARTUN::MISTOVICHWed Jun 20 1990 13:2721
    Here's my opinion, FWIW.  I'm sure that there are a lot of people with
    experience in this area who will disagree.
    
    A lot of breeders are weaning babies at 3-4 months.  I think this is
    fairly recent development that started with breeders that were breeding
    their mares annually.  Nursing and carrying a baby at the same time is
    very stressful, so they weaned very early to reduce the stress on the
    mare and to ensure the new foal wouldn't suffer.  
    
    Personally, I don't think this is a good idea.  Mares naturally wean 
    their foals at 10-12 months, and while you may want to manage the process 
    yourself, I don't think its a good idea to do it much sooner than it 
    would naturally occur.  Mammals need to suckle...so much so that
    weaning to early can cause oral fixations (i.e. mouthiness).  I've seen
    this happen in cats, horses and people (late thumbsuckers).  Other 
    physical issues might be that their bodies are designed to get milk for a 
    certain period of time.  Yes, they can adapt, but is that wise?  And of 
    course there are psychological issues as well.
    
    OK, breeders, fire away!  ;-)
    Mary
1294.6DEPENDS ON THE FOAL AND MAREASABET::NICKERSONKATHIE NICKERSON 223-2025Wed Jun 20 1990 14:3410
    We wean anywhere from 3 to 6 months...much depends on the mare's
    condition and the foal's condition
    Some of the foals get so big that they drain everything from the
    mare even though they are eating their own rations of grain, hay, etc.
    Some mares will wean on their own...we have one that does it at four
    months.  She just can't be bothered any more.
    One thing we do is start them on grain, etc as soon as possible.
    
    Good luck...they certainly are interesting kids.
    
1294.7There's nothing like Mommy!SALEM::LAURENCELLETue Jul 10 1990 16:1414
    Hi Again,
    
    Well, here I go with all my lack of experience. We have separated
    the colt from his mother in the barn. They acted awful. We relocated
    them in stalls next to each other so they could touch noses, this
    seemed to help the "stress". It has been (3) days and the mares
    udder (?) seems to be going down. (Was rock hard.) We rubbed her
    with bag balm the first couple of days, she was not a happy camper.
    Yesterday the foal was turned out all day with our old pony, when
    he came in a "dinner time" he ran up to his mothers stall door (in
    hopes) and she let out a horrible warning at him. Can I assume the
    pain is bad at this stage? 
    
                                amy....
1294.9Glad you're there... this can be hard..SALEM::LAURENCELLETue Jul 10 1990 17:4113
    Thanks to all for support,
    
    I am told (recently) the way the (2) fillies are being managed is
    the right way for adequate "separation" whatever that is. Tonight
    I will move the "young fellow" away from mom and see how it goes.
    Personally I think I'm too soft for this role, breaks my heart to
    take a baby away from his ma.
    
    Good luck with the "little ladies"! This is my first experience
    with a foal... such a delight! He is very loveable .....
    
    
                                       amy
1294.10TWO IS EASIER...ASABET::NICKERSONKATHIE NICKERSON 223-2025Wed Jul 11 1990 09:139
    We found it was easier with two because they look to each other for
    support.  What we did find is that there was a little trauma when we
    separated the two youngsters about a year later.  
    
    Now keep in mind that the two lived in the same stall and run-in area
    for a year.  However the trauma wasn't as great as with the weaning.
    
    Good luck to both of you.