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Title: | Equine Notes Conference |
Notice: | Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151 |
Moderator: | MTADMS::COBURN IO |
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Created: | Tue Feb 11 1986 |
Last Modified: | Thu Jun 05 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 2080 |
Total number of notes: | 22383 |
1291.0. "Hock Troubles - No Bending?" by MFGMEM::LEMIRE () Fri Jun 15 1990 17:45
Please give me some advice about a recent incident with the horse I am
leasing (Cody). This is a 9-year old gelding, somewhat green, due
to back problems that were finally resolved a couple of years ago.
I began riding him last Fall, after he had been introduced to jumping
in the Spring. I have been showing him lightly over the past
several months in hunter and equitation (3'). We always do a lot
of bending and circle work in our lessons - the horse is stiff, and
somewhat strung out, and this work greatly helps. His owner also
rides him, doing bending work, but no jumping. Between the two
of us, he gets ridden about six times a week, and at least one of
those days is a trail ride.
A couple of weeks ago, I noticed he was off when I began riding
around the ring, and he did not work out of it. He is usually
"off" for a few minutes every time, but would normally be okay
after a few minutes of trot and canter. The next day the vet
came out, did flexion tests, etc., and determined he was off in
his left hind leg. Because he had a bad injury there 3 years ago
(I was unaware), she knew to pull some fluid out of the hock, saw
it was watery, not viscuous as it should be to lubricate the ligaments,
and then gave him a shot of hieronic (sp?) acid to get the viscosity
up. 2 1/2 years ago he had gotten a similar shot, so she said
it was pretty good that it had lasted so long.
Instructions were to ride him, especially trail-type work, long, low,
keep-him-moving, type of stuff, jumping okay, but to take it easy
on the bending. After two weeks, he is progressing nicely, doing
his flying changes much easier than previous to the shot, and sound.
Now the owner is saying that we should not do any 20-meter circles
with him, ever! She wants to avoid stressing his hock. I can
understand her point, but it seems to me that if you can't do
20-meter circles, then you shouldn't do serpentines, walk-canter
transitions, shoulder-in, or other similar movements that also
actively engage or otherwise stress the hocks. Am I over-reacting?
I wonder how much better we can do at shows if we have to
avoid a lot of this type of work, but I don't want to injure the
horse, either.
Let me know what you think,
Jennie
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1291.1 | talk to your vet | DYO780::AXTELL | Dragon Lady | Sun Jun 17 1990 16:19 | 28 |
| Just my humble opinion but...
If the horse shouldn't be doing 20M circles, then he certainly
shouldn't be jumping. Think about the amount of stress launching
1000 plus pounds of horse and rider 3 feet into the air puts on
a hock! If the owner is really that worried, it might be time to
retire the horse.
I believe what your vet used is a synthetic joint fluid. Jumpers
and upper level dressage horses (and horses with conformation problems)
put lot's of stress on the hock and I've seen quite a few horses
undergo this treatment with good results. The vet will draw out some
of the old fluid and replace it with this thicker stuff. Usually the
horse will be fine for quite sometime and then this fluid will break
down just like the natural stuff. When that happens, it is replaced again.
You really shouldn't run into bending causing hock problems unless
you're doing major extensions and collected movements. The basic
training and 1st level movements should actually help the horse
be more comfortable. I know that my jumper had this proceedure
done a few years ago and the only time he's uncomfortable is when
we DON'T do the bending work.
In your position I think I'd sit down with the owner and the vet
and discuss what kind of work Cody should be doing.
-maureen
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1291.2 | We Agree | MFGMEM::LEMIRE | | Mon Jun 18 1990 09:52 | 21 |
| Maureen,
Thanks for your reply based on experience. I mentioned my concern
to the owner and my trainer (who is in final months of vet school),
and we discussed it together on Saturday. The trainer felt as you
did, that any horse that can't work on a 20 meter school shouldn't
be showing, jumping, etc. And he pointed out that the horse seems
to move better when he is collected than when he is strung out
(the owner agreed), and the only way to tell if the horse is really
injured is to work the horse - which will either strengthen those
areas, or point out the problem clearly. The owner agreed.
The regular vet is coming out today, and I'm sure the owner will
review this decision with her as well.
By the way, Saturday we did work the horse with a lot of bending,
etc, took him to a show Sunday, and he came out of the trailer
into the warm-up ring moving much better than he has in three weeks -
so I think you are right that the exercises help.
Jennie
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