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Title:Equine Notes Conference
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Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
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1269.0. "Bridle Path Hack?" by DECXPS::LCOBURN () Tue May 01 1990 13:46

    THis may sound like a silly question, but what the heck....in reading
    through the class list of a show I am going to this coming month,
    I noticed there is a class titled "Bridle Path Hack"...it gives
    only a vague description ei: to be shown at the walk trot and cante
    both ways of the ring, judged on manners, performance and substance.
    To hand gallop"....huh? I guess I have never run into this class
    before, does anyone know what the judge will be looking for in this
    as opposed to a pleasure class? Is the hand gallop the only difference?
    I show a very quiet TB, who is a consistent, nice-mover but not
    what I would call "brilliant", he does hand-gallop in groups calmly
    so I am considering trying the class if it is what I am guessing
    it to be, but I thought I'd ask the experts in here rather than
    embarrasing myself by entering a totally inappropriate class...
    Thanks!
    
    Linda
    
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1269.1LANDO::AHARRISTue May 01 1990 14:135
    They usually ask for an extended trot too. I always used to find that
    in a mixed class, the saddle seat horses placed higher than the
    hunters. I think they look for a bit more brilliance and flash than in
    a pleasure class. There are also Hunter Hack classes, where you have to
    do all the gaits plus jump a couple fences.
1269.2Could you answer a few more??PENUTS::MADAVISMon May 21 1990 14:0914
    I also have a few questions regarding these two classes:
    
    o	Are the riders expected to take the two-point position at 
    	the hand-gallop, or should they remain seated?  I rode in 
    	a class like this years ago and we did the two-point (things
    	certainly may have changed).
    
    o	How big are the fences to be jumped?
    
    o	Are there any other things that they have you do that are 
    	different from regular W-T-C?  Such as dismounting?
    
    Thanks for your answers.  I hope to advance up to the W-T-C level
    and these would be classes I would be considering.   **Marti**
1269.3a couple of answersMFGMEM::LEMIREWed May 30 1990 14:1415
    I have only shown in bridle path hack and hunter hack classes
    at Sunshine Farm shows in Sherborn.  There, the bridle path
    hack is usually part of the pleasure division, and most
    people (I would say ALL) are riding in hunt saddles, so there
    hasn't been a call for extended trot.  
    
    Anytime a hand gallop is called for, I think the rider should
    be in two-point position; I think it's really impossible to
    get up the speed, otherwise.
    
    The hunter hack classes at Sunshine are usually over two fences
    the same height as the rest of the division (Low Hunter, or
    Working Hunter), so probably 2'3" to 3'0" depending on the
    division.
    
1269.4ONE MORE ANSWERMFGMEM::LEMIREWed May 30 1990 14:2318
    Sorry, Marti, forgot your last question, about additional
    requirements.  Again, only from my experience at Sunshine
    (have done about 6 of these classes), usually the walk-trot-canter
    is done first, then everyone lines up, and the judge or ringmaster
    points out the two fences to be jumped.  One at a time, the
    entrants perform and then rejoin the line.  The class is then
    pinned.  At only one show, the judge specified to pick up
    a hand-gallop, jump the line, and halt in a straight line.
    Usually, people just cantered to the fence, maybe with a circle
    before or after.
    
    I think dismount would only be called for in some pleasure
    classes where it was specified in the program.
    
    Let us know what your experience turns out like!
    
    Jennie
    
1269.5BOSOX::LCOBURNWed May 30 1990 14:4418
    Since having started this topic, I did a Bridle Path Hack class
    at the Rowley Riding + Driving Club show on May 6. (We pinned
    3rd!) We were asked to extend the trot as a group, then the whole
    class was lined up in the center of the ring and divided into 3
    groups (2 groups of 8, and one group of 9 I believe, it was a big
    class). Each group was sent to the rail to hand-gallop. I used the
    two-point position. A lot of horses seemed to blow up at this point,
    I was pretty surprised at how many did not take galloping in a group
    well. I was riding a TB ex-racehorse, though, who behaved well enough.
    From the hand gallop we were asked to halt, then walk off on a loose
    rein. It was interesting! My guy, once on the loose rein, acted
    like he was going to cut back into the center of the ring, but I
    was able to keep him on the rail with my inside leg long enough
    to be okay. Never having heard of the class before, I was pretty
    please with a 3rd place in it! :-) Thanks everyone, for the input!
    
    Linda