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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

1174.0. "Indoor dust control?" by HEEHEE::JOHNSON () Wed Jan 31 1990 09:05

What do people do about controlling indoor arena dust in the winter?
I know a lot of people use calcium chloride, and I'm currently using
that as well.  But I've since heard that calcium chloride isn't good
on horses hooves.  Are there any alternatives?  

Thanks for your ideas/suggestions!

Melinda
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1174.1CSC32::M_HOEPNERRemember to drain the swamp...Wed Jan 31 1990 10:2813
    
    In northern climates we are somewhat limited in what works.
    
    I don't know how bad calcium chloride is for hooves.  I suspect its not
    much more drying than sawdust (since you aren't stabling the horse
    in calcium chloride) or more abrasive than sand.  And better than the
    alternatives -- like a dusty arena or an icy one. 
    
    I know of people who have used oil (used oil from service stations). 
    It does control the dust but not necessary something you want your
    horse to roll in when he's turned out.
    
    
1174.2DYO780::AXTELLDragon LadyWed Jan 31 1990 10:3812
    I, too, would dearly appreciate any suggestions!
    
    We have a dead sand (sand/dirt misture) surface on the indoor. 
    The stalls face the indoor, which is not how I'd have built it
    but it's "liveable".  Dust is a real problem for us.
    
    Don't oil the ring if you're ever going to turn your horse out to
    platy in it.  This I know from an experience with a white horse
    named hemmoroid (he deserves the name).  And water is dangerous
    in cold weather.
    
    
1174.3HEEHEE::JOHNSONWed Jan 31 1990 11:0610

I vaguely remember someone in this conference talking about using 
'diatenatious earth' (sp??) for something, don't ask me what now.  I wonder
if it was for dust control.  Does anyone remember?

Regarding using oil on indoors:  I thought that was illegal (at least in NH).
I'm not sure whether it violates fire codes or if there is some other
carcinogenic reason.  I wonder what the petroleum does on their hooves?  

1174.4CSC32::M_HOEPNERRemember to drain the swamp...Wed Jan 31 1990 11:117
    
    RE:  Petroleum on hoofs
    
    Probably similar to what pine tar does, if you were to paint it on. 
    
    It doesn't take much oil to de-dust a ring.  Just enough to control the
    dust and make a mess of your horse's coat.
1174.5DYO780::AXTELLDragon LadyWed Jan 31 1990 11:483
    Here in Ohio, oil is legal, as long as it isn't used oil. I believe
    the carcenogenic properties realate to used oil.
    
1174.6oil is illegalCARTUN::MISTOVICHWed Jan 31 1990 12:356
    Dumping oil was made illegal in Mass several years ago for environmental
    reasons--to protect the groundwater supplies.  It seems pretty unlikely
    that oil in an indoor will (or can) get washed down with the rain, but
    then politicians have never been known for their brains!
    
    Mary  
1174.7HEEHEE::JOHNSONWed Jan 31 1990 14:593
	I finally found the note about 'diatomacious earth' (871.3) and
	it was for fly control, not dust control.  Oh well.
1174.8Don't use "used oil" - it's toxic!TOOK::SCHLENERWed Jan 31 1990 17:039
    used oil is a toxic waste and should not be used to control dust. In
    fact, used oil should be dealt with as a hazardous waste.
    The calcium chloride from what I understand, affects the respiratory
    tract of the horse (and I suppose us riders too). I would rather deal
    with breathing in dust than chloride. 
    Is it that cold in the indoor ring during the day that you couldn't
    spray the sand with water? What about adding clay to the sand?
    			Cindy
    
1174.9calcium chloride and waterSTNDUP::FOXHow do YOU spell relief? VACATION!Wed Jan 31 1990 17:1314
The ring where I keep my critter is never dusty. I have been amazed at how 
clean it always is. The footing is tanbark/wood chips layered over stone dust 
layered over crushed stone and it is always pretty moist.

The people hand-spread calcium chloride and then rinse it through the layers
with a water sprinkler (yes, it does hail inside ;^)) and they do this sometimes
once a week if necessary. They only run the sprinkler enough to wash it through
(just moistens the layer) and its rideable right after, though they do close
the ring for the hour that it takes to do it.

Also, they keep the arena doors open when it snows or rains to capture some of
the moisture... That seems to help also.

Good luck!
1174.10DYO780::AXTELLDragon LadyThu Feb 01 1990 13:1710
    re .8
    
    The top layers don't freeze, but the surface underneath does
    when it's about 0 degrees outdoors.  And believe me, it's no
    fun riding jumper courses and finding out your ring is slippery!
    We have one other problem in that the bedrock is less than a 
    foot beneath the surface, so drainage isn't the best.
    
    -maureen
    
1174.11I vote against water....NOBOZO::GOODNOWFri Feb 02 1990 14:376
    
    Yeah - be careful with watering in winter, I've had the frozen
    underneath experience, and it's pretty scary.
    
    Amy
    
1174.12If done right......BOOVX2::MANDILEMon Feb 05 1990 14:428
    An indoor ring at a riding stable I worked at had a sprinkler
    system throughout the rafters.  When it got too dusty, just a
    quick sprinkle and the dust settled.  Not a soaking, mind you,
    just a "sprinkling" to dampen what I think was a ground
    wood/bark base.
                                 
    
    Lynne